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Why Do Videogames Struggle With Sex? 465

Posted by CmdrTaco
from the because-we-all-do dept.
brumgrunt writes "Why do videogames still treat sex in such a two dimensional way? Why do they snigger at it, or treat it as a reward? Den Of Geek has been taking a look." I always figured it was some combination of games being made by our inner adolescent, marketed to the outer ones, and getting banned whenever they take sex seriously.
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  • by devxo (1963088) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:33AM (#35419208)

    In videogames, even ones that handle the subject deftly, sex is almost always a reward. Take the Mass Effect series, for example. Here, you can indulge in interspecies sexual relations, if you see fit, but to get to the point where a character is willing to bump uglies with you, you have to have followed the correct series of dialogue prompts. There's a veneer of freedom, but the relationship you're creating with the character you want to sleep with is a shallow one. Fail to perform one action, or choose incorrectly on one dialogue tree, and they'll lose interest in you. Sex becomes an achievement, a notch on the bedpost of your high score table, instead of being the physical expression of an emotional connection between two consenting individuals.

    Not just with video games, but in general Well, it looks like the author thinks sex must only be some kind of expression of true love. What he is writing here is directly what happens in real life - you choose your words or actions badly and even one bad choice ends up to you not having sex with the girl. This seems to be more of a problem with the way US thinks about sex, while we here in Europe can just have it casually and not make a big deal out of it. Sure it might be shallow relationship, but so what, sex is fun, feels good and there really isn't any reason not to enjoy it.

    I wonder why religions even have made sex to look like a bad thing. When you ask about it from someone who believes in god, the only responses usually are something like "because god said so", "that's just how it is" or "it's a special thing between a man and a woman". No actual answer. Sure, sex feels great with a person you love. But so does many other things, and you can also just have sex that feels physically great with no bigger emotions. It's nice to be close to someone, feel their skin and feel how you're inside them. Be it with love or not.

    • by Stenchwarrior (1335051) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:45AM (#35419346)

      This seems to be more of a problem with the way US thinks about sex, while we here in Europe can just have it casually and not make a big deal out of it. Sure it might be shallow relationship, but so what, sex is fun, feels good and there really isn't any reason not to enjoy it.

      I assure you, there's no shortage of casual and shallow sex here in the US.

    • by girlintraining (1395911) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:49AM (#35419376)

      What he is writing here is directly what happens in real life - you choose your words or actions badly and even one bad choice ends up to you not having sex with the girl.

      If I walked up to a guy and said "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?" -- there's a chance he'll say yes, despite this being one of the worst ways to go about it. As to actions, many hollywood movies have been made (How to lose a guy in 7 days, anyone?) about how sometimes doing everything wrong still leads to the desired outcome. The truth is... Sex happens because we have hormones and chemicals and stuff in our brains (and *cough* elsewhere) and sometimes they're the ones doing the talking -- and what comes out of our mouth is totally irrelevant. As to love or no love, emotional attachment or not... Being that you're not a woman, you don't have some extra chemicals besides the ones I mentioned above working against you. It's near impossible for a woman past a certain age to have sex and not develop an emotional attachment. Ever wonder why we want to cuddle or be clingy after sex (or octopus you during climax?) -- BRAIN CHEMICALS! Believe me, if we could shut it off, or take a pill to let us have no strings attached sex like guys, the world would be a far sluttier place. I'm totally serious about this... don't laugh.

      • by killmenow (184444) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @12:03PM (#35419540)
        I don't believe you. Mostly because you purport to be a female on slashdot.

        "That's a joke, son! A joke I say!" - Foghorn Leghorn
      • What he is writing here is directly what happens in real life - you choose your words or actions badly and even one bad choice ends up to you not having sex with the girl.

        As to love or no love, emotional attachment or not... Being that you're not a woman, you don't have some extra chemicals besides the ones I mentioned above working against you. It's near impossible for a woman past a certain age to have sex and not develop an emotional attachment. Ever wonder why we want to cuddle or be clingy after sex (or octopus you during climax?) -- BRAIN CHEMICALS! Believe me, if we could shut it off, or take a pill to let us have no strings attached sex like guys, the world would be a far sluttier place. I'm totally serious about this... don't laugh.

        This is off topic, but a great topic none the less. I've known plenty of women who were totally fine with a physical relationship (at least that's what they said) but the majority would say they fall into the category you describe and really want more. For a long time scientists thought that women were mostly monogamous while men were inherently the opposite. They attributed these assumptions to the nurturing, demure character of women and hunter-gatherer and conquering nature of men. Recent studies have sh

      • Emotional bonding is not a simple byproduct of hormones and neurotransmitters released during and after intercourse. If that were true, every female prostitute would be madly in love with however many clients she has; however much of the time the opposite is the case. Be careful of placebo effects and self-fulfilling prophecies. Long before there was any study of oxytocin there has been in many societies a conflation of sexual attraction and love and cause and effect relationships between the two. Neither l
      • by BrianRoach (614397) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @12:38PM (#35419976)

        If I walked up to a guy and said "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?" -- there's a chance he'll say yes, despite this being one of the worst ways to go about it.

        If you're even remotely attractive (Lets say, shy of disfigured), I'd say there's a very good chance. If the gender roles are reversed, there's a very good chance of getting slapped. I don't know if that's societal or biological, but I suspect it's societal.

        Women decide when/if sex happens. Us men have to figure out what conditions have to be met in order for that to occur. The video game treatment, while simplified greatly, works along the same lines.

        • by h4rm0ny (722443)

          If you're even remotely attractive (Lets say, shy of disfigured), I'd say there's a very good chance. If the gender roles are reversed, there's a very good chance of getting slapped. I don't know if that's societal or biological, but I suspect it's societal.

          There's a biological basis. A woman is seldom physically intimidating / threatening a male who she is sexually propositioning. The opposite is very often the case. Consider that men are predominently larger and stronger than women. Consider also that a man can't easliy be forced to have sexual intercourse against his will by a woman because he wont get hard if he isn't turned on. But a woman can be forced.

          A stranger coming up to you and saying they "want to fuck you" is quite different when it is someone

          • Re: (Score:3, Interesting)

            by NoSig (1919688)
            Rape is not a common thing and is a non-issue for normal, balanced people of both sexes. Men are much, much more at risk in the nightlife than women are - from other men. Physical risk of being coerced has just got nothing to do with why women have different wishes on sex. If you are honest you'll realize that woman-on-man violence is much more common than the other way around. One main effect that is actually real is that almost all men desire young women physically while women want same-age partners. This
        • Women decide when/if sex happens. Us men have to figure out what conditions have to be met in order for that to occur.

          Eh, not so sure about this one. I used to think so, back before I got to know women, but now I think it's just a con. Especially if you're in a relationship, as a guy you're offered more than you can do with (you think you can do it every 15 mins for the whole day when you're 18. You can't by the time you're 30).

          And why would this be? Well, for one, once you've gotten with a girl, all the mentioned hormones and that kick in. You somehow become the only good supplier of a rather intoxicating drug.

          Another rea

      • and what comes out of our mouth is totally irrelevant.

        However, what goes in... [WARNING! INTERNET KILL SWITCH ACTIVATED. POST TERMINATED.]

      • As long as you're not a total troll or cow and make it clear that you're serious about that statement, and the guys not gay ofc, theres a 90% chance you'll get a yes out of that. The other 10% are in relationships and actually faithful.

      • There is nothing like no strings attached sex for either of the sexes. It's always emotional on some level. But like you say it's easier to find men capable of casual sex than women. But emotions always build up in the long run... Despite whoever trying to tell themselves whatever.

      • by Locke2005 (849178)
        Oxytocin (the "bonding hormone") is produced by both men and women during sex. Contrary to popular belief, guys get attached to the person they're fucking too.
      • by vadim_t (324782) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @01:19PM (#35420488) Homepage

        If I walked up to a guy and said "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?" -- there's a chance he'll say yes, despite this being one of the worst ways to go about it

        Were somebody to try that on me, I'd start looking for the first convenient excuse to get away as quickly as possible, or just plain run like hell.

        That's because I'd start wondering, why would somebody do that?

        One reason I can imagine is "look at me, I'm shameless enough to go and ask that to a random guy", which is done for the sake of amusing or impressing somebody else, and so almost certainly not a serious offer.

        The other is that the one asking is crazy, high or drunk. Which very likely leads to problems later, because that would be statutory rape.

        A much less likely one is some kind of drama, like "I'm angry at my boyfriend, so I'm going to screw with the first guy I come across". I highly suspect that this is inexistent in reality and only exists in bad movies.

        Either way I can't imagine a single reason for asking such a question that wouldn't lead to complications later. And IMO, if you ever ask it and somebody replies affirmatively, run like hell, because you just found somebody without the slightest bit of common sense.

        • by xaxa (988988)

          A much less likely one is some kind of drama, like "I'm angry at my boyfriend, so I'm going to screw with the first guy I come across". I highly suspect that this is inexistent in reality and only exists in bad movies.

          The question was asked to me. I'd gone to a nightclub (Electric Ballroom, Camden, London) with some old friends. To compensate for the music I wasn't enjoying I drank more than usual. (At some point all but one of the friends left without me, probably because I'd wandered off to a different room.)

          I was pretty drunk, standing at the side of the dancefloor, and a girl wandered up to me and said something like "you're hot, kiss me", so I did. She then wanted to go to the bar, and got me to buy her a drink. We

      • by squidflakes (905524) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @02:08PM (#35421144) Homepage
        (or octopus you during climax?)

        My god, is this something I can request? I, personally, would LOVE to be octopused during climax. Do... do I get to specify the species, or is that something that comes up during dating? Would I come off as shallow if I told a girl about my favorite species and asked if she could provide it? Should I just accept that while I may want to be Giant Pacific Octopused (E. dofleini) during climax, the girl I'm with may only have, or be able to, Red Octopus (O. Reubescens) me; or god forbid Blue Ringed Octopus (H. lunulata) me.

        What if I meet a girl that likes to cuttlefish?
    • by morari (1080535)

      I wonder why religions even have made sex to look like a bad thing.

      Control. Why else?

      • I wonder why religions even have made sex to look like a bad thing.

        Control. Why else?

        Right.

        And none of them can tell me where in the Bible it says "No sex before marriage", just like none of them can tell me where it says a priest (*cough*catholics*cough*) must absolve me of my sins.

        I always use the desert island example. If I was stranded on a desert island, could I still be 'saved'? If I'm stranded on a desert island with a girl, could we get 'married'?

        The Biblical answer is 'yes', but the 'religious' answer is 'no' because they want you to go to their churches, tithe money, hear

        • And none of them can tell me where in the Bible it says "No sex before marriage"

          1 Corinthians 7 mentions it several times, nor is that the only place. While it's true that most Catholic ritual has no Biblical basis, the restrictions on sexual contact are quite clear.

          • And none of them can tell me where in the Bible it says "No sex before marriage"

            1 Corinthians 7 mentions it several times, nor is that the only place. While it's true that most Catholic ritual has no Biblical basis, the restrictions on sexual contact are quite clear.

            It's plain as day--it says that you need a wife to avoid fornication. Where does the Bible tell you how you get a wife? I have never once seen a scripture that says "Go find a priest, he will marry you, and you have avoided fornication." Sex is marriage.

        • Are you kidding? Jesus said that that merely wanting to have sex with a woman counts as adultery (see Matthew 5:27). Like usury, divorce and the difficulties of getting rich men into heaven, fornication seems to be one of those things that Americans condone even though a lot of them like to insist this is a Christian nation.

          Colossians 3:5

          Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: for which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

          1 Corinthians 5:7

          But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.

          There's other ones too, but I'm too lazy to find them.

          As for the hypothetical desert island, I would think that you could call your relationship a

      • To be totally fair, it would have been necessary in an ancient civilization where birth control is nonexistant and a significant portion of the population is too stupid to know that sex makes babies. Otherwise, Israel would have had an epidemic of single mothers.

        Alot of religious laws may seem like some sort of megalomaniac ruler's attempt at looking important by controlling people when you look at them today, but when you put them in a historical context, you realize that there was a time when they were a

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by clorkster (1996844)
      God intended marriage to emulate the relationship between Jesus Christ and the church. A sacrificial love where one holds the other higher than themselves. It is difficult to even scratch the surface of the image of Christ if intimacy, trust, and selflessness are not a priority. I think a lot of the conversation about marriage is fundamentally flawed between religious conservatives and those who would see equality amongst all who explore the realms of love. Christian marriage is fundamentally based upon
      • 1. Marriage is bigger then Christianity (and the jewish/christian/muslim monotheistic god in general). It existed before Christianity, and in other ethnic backgrounds. It's a species thing and is bigger and older then any one religion.
        2. The whole "sacrificial" thing where "one holds the other higher then themselves" doesn't really jive with that whole equality thing that went down about a century ago. Women are people too, and my wife is my equal. We both wear the pants.
        3. You can't make everything be
    • From TFA:

      First up, lock up your daughters, sons and dependants, because we're going to talk about sex.

      If that doesn't say it all about the US's attitude writ large in the author's article.

      If you can't objectively discuss sex without hiding it as a dirty topic from "innocent ears", then he's just answered his own musings in this article.

      But really, are video games really any different from any other form of entertainment in general? Just take a look at your newstands, TV, and movie theaters and tell me if video games treat sex all that differently

      • by xaxa (988988)

        But really, are video games really any different from any other form of entertainment in general? Just take a look at your newstands, TV, and movie theaters and tell me if video games treat sex all that differently

        I am not/was not really aware there were normal/mainstream games including sex. I don't play games very often though, but I'd expect to hear about it when people are discussing them.

        I know movies have sex -- both as the main point of the film (porn) and as incidental to the story (everything else). My nearest newsstand includes newspapers with a Page 3 [wikipedia.org] and magazines of semi-naked people and sex tips available to anyone.

    • by 93 Escort Wagon (326346) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @12:19PM (#35419726)

      This seems to be more of a problem with the way US thinks about sex, while we here in Europe can just have it casually and not make a big deal out of it.

      I also admire how you Europeans have mastered that whole arrogance thing.

      • I'll give you 10:1 odds that he's french or italian.

        Go go stereoypes.

      • by BancBoy (578080)

        This seems to be more of a problem with the way US thinks about sex, while we here in Europe can just have it casually and not make a big deal out of it.

        I also admire how you Europeans have mastered that whole arrogance thing.

        As an American, I can assure you that we are closing the arrogance gap as fast as we possibly can manage!

      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @01:48PM (#35420872)

        This seems to be more of a problem with the way US thinks about arrogance, while we here in Europe can just have it casually and not make a big deal out of it.

    • Who are these "Europe" and "US" entities you speak about as if they were individuals and not vast, diverse populations? :-) Sorry. Just speaking as someone who spent 12 years in the California BDSM scene where every type of sex known to humanity was experienced, much of it quite casually.

      I wonder why religions even have made sex to look like a bad thing.

      Go ask St. Augustine. He actually thought sex *within* marriage was bad, but a necessary evil. Yeesh.

    • by phantomfive (622387) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @12:48PM (#35420114) Journal

      I wonder why religions even have made sex to look like a bad thing.

      Historically, sex out of wedlock HAS been a very bad thing. Venereal diseases, unwanted pregnancies, death and sickness (really....the list of famous people who died of venereal disease at a young age is surprisingly long). Of course that's not really a problem anymore, but that's only been true for the last 60 years or so. For the thousands of years before that, religion was right on in their recommendations. Religion moves slowly to deal with new developments, especially on relatively minor issues (seriously....pick up any holy book and count the number of paragraphs talking about sex. It's a small proportion. Usually significantly less than 1%).

      • by GauteL (29207)

        "Of course that's not really a problem anymore"

        In an otherwise good argument, I think you forgot a few continents when making this statement. But don't let me derail you by "well, actually"-ing you. In nature, casual sex is a mixed blessing. For a man, in good times it is the best way of increasing your chances of having surviving offspring, something which is less relevant in bad times when single mothers and their child are unlikely to survive. For women, having to carry the child for 9 months and being l

  • Fantasy Escapism (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Sonny Yatsen (603655) * on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:36AM (#35419232) Journal

    I always figured that videogames treat sex two dimensionally because much of video games cater to fantasy escapism as its main draw. It's really no different from any other fantasy escapism outlet. If you look at high fantasy books of the last couple of decades, you'll see the exact same amount of treatment of sex and impossibly proportioned women. Same thing with comic books. On the women's side, it's no different from romance novels (with the impossibly built shirtless men on the covers), soap operas (although to a lesser degree) and all sorts of other similar stuff. They appeal to the idea in us of the quick cathartic thrill that we can fantasize ourselves into, and very few people fantasize about marriage, children and getting a mortgage.

    • by Kosi (589267)

      OK, it's SciFi, not fantasy, but I like the view on sex in some of Heinlein's books like "Stranger in a Strange Land".

      • Well, I don't mean fantasy as in elves or magic or whatnot. I mean genres that lends itself to allowing the reader or viewer or player to fantasize themselves into the position of the protagonist or protagonists.

        Although that was a pretty outstanding book.

  • or treat it as a reward?

    Because that's how evolution works.
  • This video [youtube.com] is about the best description of the problem I've seen. If you can't read the fine article, watch the fine video.

    • by Elbereth (58257)

      That video requires you to log in to YouTube. Got a link that doesn't require an account to view the video?

  • Laisure Suit Larry (Score:2, Informative)

    by yorugua (697900)
    http://lpix.org/s/50483/13.gif [lpix.org]

    enough said.

  • Do not want you to know there's this much better game in town :p

  • by pezpunk (205653) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:42AM (#35419298) Homepage

    it's not like video games treat murder or money or physics or politics with reverence, respect, or precision either. why should a game be expected to treat sex as somehow immune from gamification? if it's included, it *should* be simplified in function and integrated into the gaming framework, just like every other complex human thing that gets reduced to either a goal, task, tool, or reward in a game.

  • Easy (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Spad (470073) <slashdotNO@SPAMspad.co.uk> on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:46AM (#35419352) Homepage

    Because any game that treats sex "properly" is going to end up with an AO rating in the US because of the absurd level of puritanical outrage about boobies, which means Walmart and the like won't stock it, so it won't sell as many copies and most publishers won't want to touch it.

    Personally, I'd welcome deeper relationship modelling in games, especially RPGs, but I know it's unlikely to happen as long as people are so scared of AO ratings and their impact on US sales. A simple solution is to stick it on the PC, slap an 18 rating on it and sell it primarily in the UK/Europe; job done.

  • by mariushm (1022195) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:48AM (#35419364)

    ... and created this nice presentation that's worth watching : http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2505-Sex-in-Games [escapistmagazine.com]

  • by Haedrian (1676506) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:49AM (#35419380)

    Society is too 'particular' about sex. The GTA hot coffee mod is a perfect example. How dare they put sex into that game! I want to shoot prostitutes, hijack cars, murder policeman and whack civilians with a baseball bat. For some reason even the largest amount of violence is less likely to cause controversy than a sex scene.

    Now, a game usually has something which makes it fun, the main part of the game. That part is treated with the most 'respect' in a way. If its a FPS its about saving the world through shooting people or whatever. If its a city simulator then its about economics or whatever. I mean you don't hear complaints about how Mass Effect doesn't simulate a space economy well enough - because that's not the main point of the game, its a sub thing.

    If you wanted a game that was all about sex, I'm sure they exist, but they'd be 'adult' games, or so heavily rated 18+ that nobody can really get to them easily (see Paragraph 1). And even then, do you think there is enough of an audience who wants to play a game who's main gameplay involves having a realistic relationship with someone? Nope.

    • by lgw (121541)

      And even then, do you think there is enough of an audience who wants to play a game who's main gameplay involves having a realistic relationship with someone? Nope.

      There's an entire "dating sim" genre in the Japanese market that disagrees. It just seems to be a US thing that any game that in any way involves sex is seen as a "sex game" and the rest of the game stops mattering.

    • by Hatta (162192)

      If you wanted a game that was all about sex, I'm sure they exist, but they'd be 'adult' games, or so heavily rated 18+ that nobody can really get to them easily (see Paragraph 1). And even then, do you think there is enough of an audience who wants to play a game who's main gameplay involves having a realistic relationship with someone? Nope.

      I'm pretty sure the real reason is better summed up in your last sentence than the rest of your post. Even for someone who has no puritanical hangups about sex, it's h

  • by Viol8 (599362) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:50AM (#35419384)

    Until photo realistic graphics and realistic movement comes of age not to mention other forms of user "input" then sex in a videogame will remain funny rather than erotic.

    • The point of sex in thoughtful media is to advance a story and show the feelings of the characters. Certainly excellent books including sexuality exist that do not include pictures!

      Grow up.

      • by Viol8 (599362)

        Newsflash - a videogame isn't a book. Its a visual medium and generally the "feelings" of the characters arn't crucial the the gameplay. You know its not real, right?

        "Grow up."

        *boggle*

  • by Anonymous Coward

    Balance will be restored to Sex and Video Games with the upcoming release of Duke Nukem Forever.

  • Honestly, games treat pretty much everything in a two-dimensional way. Every system is a dramatic simplification. Every mechanic is there to make the game fun. You don't see a whole hell of a lot of depth or complexity to any of it.

  • I suppose the game developers are "thinking of the children" in a very perverse sense. When your typical audience is in his teens / early college years -- of course the women with unrealistic proportions are going to be more appealing. The buyers are making their purchases partly based on their hormones at that age.
  • .... there is no substitute.....

  • Because your cultural/religious repressions are making you all crazy. What makes you think that sexual deprivation is any less harmful than sleep or sensory deprivation? You should learn to let the kids play with themselves if you don't want to raise a psychopath.

    • by PPH (736903)

      You should learn to let the kids play with themselves if you don't want to raise a psychopath.

      A psychopath with skills well honed on FPS games.

  • Just like with comics and animation, the west (or more specifically, North America) has this decades-long issue where it is automatically assumed that videogames are children's entertainment.

    Other parts of the world, like Japan, and parts of Europe, have gotten over this and accept that those forms of entertainment can be for mature adults, so their games, comics, and animation can be a bit more risqué.

    • by lgw (121541)

      No "kenshin", games comics and animation are seen as childish in Japan too, perhaps even more so. They're just practical about the market for adults doing childish things, and not so repressed about sex as to panic about children being exposed to risque content. But "mature" adults don't do anything "for fun" - you might admit to having a hobby, but only because there's a safe pretense that a hobby can be for self-improvement.

  • by fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @11:58AM (#35419488) Journal
    Just technologically, sex is arguably pretty tricky. You can do plain porn easily enough(especially if you just use stills and video shot with real people); but simulating complex character interactions or in-engine naked-bodies-and-fluids without falling into the horrors of the uncanny valley is quite difficult. Thus, games tend either to ignore the subject, or just toss in some pin-ups at reward points.

    Then, of course, you have the US market's rather curious stance toward sex vs. violence. Violence may well get you rated M; but M is hardly the kiss of death. Sex will probably get you AO, which is.(Even if the selling point of the violence is realistic depictions of human suffering and death, and the game is all about tasteful loving relationships or something; but so it goes...) Even as the market of adult videogamers expands, you still can't get a mass-market game out the door if it won't be at least tacitly accepted by the households of millions of 14 year olds(because who else is going to scream "FAGGOT HACKER!!@!!" into the microphone all night on XBL?)

    Finally, there is the matter of competition and competitive advantage: For things like violence and empire building, most people either have no options, or only options that are actually pretty costly, and thus not competitors as entertainment(Well, let's see... I could download America's Army or I could join America's Army...). There is some competition from film; but that is about it. For things like sex, a decent percentage of gamers old enough to be interested in a serious in-game depiction are substantially more interested in real life. Failing that(because of technological limitations, as described above) the conventional pornography industry is arguably pretty superior to the video game industry in terms of efficiently titillating depictions, and the film and novel industries are substantially ahead if you want deep characters and romance and things.
    • by nomadic (141991)
      I have never really understood this whole criticism of sex vs. violence; these are two mostly unrelated aspects of humanity. Why do slashdotters conflate the two and argue that they should be treated similarly?
  • Heh... (Score:5, Funny)

    by kitsunewarlock (971818) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @12:10PM (#35419612) Journal
    From what I've seen on my friend's PC, this is another article that needs the tag "except in Japan".
  • Probably for the same reasons that video-gamers struggle with sex. It has something to do with the intersection of infrequency and awkwardness.
  • Why do videogames still treat sex in such a two dimensional way? Why do they snigger at it, or treat it as a reward?

    I believe that's one-dimensional - love-it <--> hate-it are just opposite directions along a single axis.

  • ...are a metaphor for penises.

    And killing enemies is a metaphor for domination sex.

    I tried arguing this point in a Modern Warfare multiplayer game once... and *they* called me gay.

  • by Livius (318358) on Tuesday March 08, 2011 @02:27PM (#35421374)

    Seriously, when does a video game deal with *any* topic other than in a superficial way? What part of 'game' is confusing people?

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