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Xbox 720 a No-show At This Year's E3 182

Posted by timothy
from the tony-hawk's-graduated-to-bigger-numbers-too dept.
itwbennett writes "Microsoft dropped a bomb yesterday: they won't be showing new hardware this year or 'anytime soon.' Microsoft told Kotaku that '2012 is all about Xbox 360.' Meanwhile, Bloomberg's mysterious sources are saying that Microsoft 'may show the successor to its Xbox 360 in June 2013 at the E3 conference and put it on sale that same year.' This would 'be a fast journey from announcement to launch,' says Peter Smith, 'but it'd mean we'd still get a new Xbox for holiday 2013, which is about the earliest anyone has expected it to arrive anyway.'"
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Xbox 720 a No-show At This Year's E3

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  • by xhrit (915936) on Friday March 16, 2012 @06:39PM (#39384833) Journal
    I highly doubt they will unveil plans for a new device before the holiday shopping season is over - otherwise a potential consumer might hold off on making a purchase until the new system is out. Chances are they will wait until the after major retail outlet return policy has expired before they make their next-next gen plans known...
  • Re:Whatever... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by xhrit (915936) on Friday March 16, 2012 @06:50PM (#39384917) Journal
    My computer from 2005 had better stats then the 360, how is it a dinosaur but the xbox 360 is still relevant? The release of the 360 effectively halted all advancements in PC gaming technology, as modern cross platform development strategy dictates that any technology driven cutting edge features in cross platform titles need to be homogenized across the divergent systems they are designed to run on.
  • Re:Whatever... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by EdIII (1114411) on Friday March 16, 2012 @07:17PM (#39385165)

    Insightful, really? Might as well have just posted 'Use Linux!" as that would have gotten a +5 I'm sure for the fanboi perception bubbles we have here

    You still butthurt about that? Your entire rant about Linux strongly put you in the MS fanboi category.....

    However, I do agree that consoles have done very little to hold back PC gaming. I think we hit diminishing returns some time ago. Not enough attention paid to plot and AI.

    If anything, consoles could have been pushing PC gaming forward with their draconian DRM and complete disregard for the consumers. The rumored upcoming suport on the 720 to ban used game sales certainly put some fire on the Internets.

    Of course, Sony needs no help looking like dicks to their consumers. No help at all. Quite frankly, their next console better come with a blowjob machine if they think they can win back the hearts and minds of the people they screwed over.

  • Re:Whatever... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by AHuxley (892839) on Friday March 16, 2012 @07:19PM (#39385187) Homepage Journal
    Going strong? Developers are still coding for "640p" and small worlds to fit in with this old plastic box.
    The low cpu, low gpu art is then passed onto PC games so we are all stuck in 2004.
  • by elrous0 (869638) * on Friday March 16, 2012 @07:39PM (#39385409)

    The traditional lifespan for a console generation is 5 years. That's the gold standard going back to the Atari 2600 days. The Xbox 360 now represents the oldest console generation in history, at over 6 years and some change (beating out the PS2's 6 years even). If a new Xbox isn't released until the Fall of 2013, it will be *by far* the oldest console generation ever (at 8 years) since consoles began.

  • Re:Whatever... (Score:3, Insightful)

    by thegarbz (1787294) on Friday March 16, 2012 @07:41PM (#39385431)

    A throwaway culture and an upgrade culture are two different things. iPods effectively have effectively not changed much between successive releases. At the core they still do what they did previously with the same quality and effect. The original iPod plays music just as well as the latest gen iPod. The only real departure was the iPod nanos and the iPod touch which effectively were a different product to suit a different need.

    The XBOX360 on the other hand is now a clear sign of a stagnated product. Do you think we should still be using CGA screens too? The entire industry is currently stuck making games that support these ancient bits of kit and effectively newer innovations in graphics are completely absent in most newly released games. It is time for an upgrade, hell it's overdue. We need an upgrade or we need manufacturers to stop supporting this old brick.

    As a side note Mass Effect 3 was released last week and runs perfectly fine on my 5 year old PC at max resolution and every graphic option cranked to 11. A brand new game which has no sign of things such as tessellation (which is a DirectX 11 feature demonstrated back in 2010).

    It is time to move on. Modern technology is capable of much better.

  • Re:Whatever... (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday March 16, 2012 @09:11PM (#39386045)

    Your computer from 2005 has at best a Pentium D, the Core processors didn't come out until 2006. Even if you somehow have used a Pentium D for seven years and haven't gone broke paying your electric bill, it won't run most recent games, including Skyrim, Battlefield, and Modern Warfare 3 (it might run Mass Effect 3 at the lowest settings). So how is the 360 relevant and your computer not? Because it plays those games, and your computer doesn't.

  • Re:Whatever... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by nedlohs (1335013) on Friday March 16, 2012 @10:19PM (#39386435)

    If PC gaming technology halted how can your computer be a dinosaur?

  • Re:Whatever... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by unixisc (2429386) on Saturday March 17, 2012 @02:14AM (#39387357)
    You actually bought all thse consoles? Had I had that experience, I'd have dumped XBox360 and stuck to PS3 and Nintendo. Does the XBox actually have many titles that ain't commonly found in either PlayStation or Nintendo?
  • Re:Whatever... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by AngryDeuce (2205124) on Saturday March 17, 2012 @08:22AM (#39388493)

    I say this because the response from people who don't have problems with their console to those who do is often "well you broke it dumbass".

    To be fair, I haven't met anyone in the last few years that didn't immediately assume that an Xbox 360 console failure wasn't because Microsoft builds shitty consoles.

    In the beginning, perhaps, the fanboys would go apoplectic over people complaining about 360 failures, but I think by now most everyone knows that an xbox 360 console isn't so much bought as rented for a few years until it dies for no reason at all.

    I'm personally on my third. Never got the RRoD, always had the DVD drives burn out and stop working. This is especially frustrating because it's just a standard DVD-ROM in the fucking thing, and I could replace it myself in a second, but Microsoft is a bunch of dickheads and every console is keyed to a particular model DVD drive (which has changed several times over the manufacturing cycle) that you can only get from them. There's methods out there for swapping out the drive controllers and all that shit to do it yourself, but it's all an incredible pain in the ass for something as stupidly simple to replace as an optical drive, and Microsoft wants 40% of the cost of a fucking entirely new console just to spend 15 minutes swapping a DVD-ROM? Give me a break...

    That's at least one thing I give Sony kudos for as regards the can go buy most any SATA hard drive and slap it into your PS3 with no problems whatsoever if you're looking to either upgrade or replace a burned out hdd. Seems kinda schizophrenic for a company that just cannot resist the temptation to make all their hardware use proprietary bullshit to lock people in but I suppose it's something.

    People wonder why I stick to my PC for the majority of my gaming when the consoles are so much cheaper these days, but considering that it's cost me $500 for an Elite and $250 for the two vanilla replacements I've already spent almost as much on the damn consoles as I did on my last build and I can do a fuck of a lot more on this than I can on the consoles. I probably wouldn't have even replaced the console this last time if it wasn't for the 50+ games and the tons of accessories I have for the thing that would end up getting tossed or sold for $1 a piece to some kid at Gamestop...

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