The Liberated Pixel Cup: a Game Making Contest From the CC, FSF, and OpenGameArt 53
Lendrick writes "OpenGameArt.org, the Free Software Foundation, and the Creative Commons are teaming up to bring the Liberated Pixel Cup, a free-as-in-freedom game making contest starting on June 1st and going through July 31st. The contest will be divided into two phases: the first phase will be about adding on to a consistent set of art commissioned specially for the contest, and the second phase, starting on July 1st, will be about building games using the provided art."
Gamemaker (Score:-1)
Re:Gamemaker (Score:0)
Your suggestion is bad and you should feel bad!
Re:Gamemaker (Score:1)
Your code may only depend on free libraries.
From the rules:
Platform: Your code must be able to be compiled and run on a 100% free-as-in-freedom platform. It may not make use of any proprietary libraries or VMs. Just to be clear, we cannot accept games that require any of the following: Flash, Silverlight, XNA, Unity, Windows, MacOS (or OSX), iOS, the official Oracle JVM, or similar. It is perfectly acceptable if your game runs on any of these platforms, but it must also work on an open platform (we strongly recommend making sure that your program run on modern flavors of GNU/Linux, as all of the judges will have access to it).
Fortunately for me, my code typically doesn't depend on the "official Oracle JVM" (Please no snarky comments about how Java is old/bad/ect... its what I use and I like it).
Re:Gamemaker (Score:0)
This makes me wonder what, if any, frameworks or APIs are left. I get that they want the end product to be free, but the reason that those frameworks and the like are used are that they make creating the game so much easier. If they can't use any of the available ones, then this contest will suck: canned artwork so they all look alike and no shortcuts coupled with the short time limit will get in the way of innovation. Oh well, GIGO.
Re:Gamemaker (Score:2, Insightful)
> ... then this contest will suck ...
Correction: The games will suck, but the contest will clarify what the 100% free world is missing in terms of game development. I would argue that currently there is a lot of guesswork and misinformation involved; the contest will give more solid data.
Re:Gamemaker (Score:0)
No, there was a previous competition that did largely the same thing: http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?board=37.0 [tigsource.com]
Basically, one group made art, another group made games from the art. A pretty successful game called Realm of the Mad God came from that: http://store.steampowered.com/app/200210/ [steampowered.com]
Yeah, many games will suck, but it doesn't mean they all have to. Hope we see some great results like from the first Assemblee contest (http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?board=38.0)
Re:Gamemaker (Score:2)
There are a few of these frameworks, and APIs. Pygame is the only one I ever played with but if all this contest does is generate interest in such frameworks that would be a success.
Re:Gamemaker (Score:2)
Re:Gamemaker (Score:1)
OpenJDK is pretty much GPL 2 (with exceptions to allow applications to have other licenses), so Java should be OK as long as you don't use any Oracle-specific stuff. The blog clarifies that open source OpenGL implementations exist and may be used. Lots of game programming libraries can be found in most Linux distributions (e.g. SDL, ClanLib, PyGame); as far as I can tell they should all be OK.
No thanks (Score:-1)
Considering there's never been a good open-source game, ever, the idea that one would get made in a one-month contest is extremely unlikely.
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
Battle for Wesnoth was decent.
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
And Tremolous. And Ufo:Alien Invasion.
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
So is FreeCiv [wikia.com].
Re:No thanks (Score:2)
No offense (Score:0)
... but it already looks like a shitty game.
Two pixels ... (Score:4, Funny)
A two-phase art competition?
>> the first phase will be about adding ...
... using
>> the second phase
I'm seeing way too many similarities for comfort.
Re:Two pixels ... (Score:3)
I'm the one who coined the name, and yes... it's been pointed out already: http://evan.status.net/notice/1367418 [status.net]
I have a good sense of humor about it, though. :)
Re:Two pixels ... (Score:0)
As well, I think "liberated" may not have been the best verb to apply as it is a synonym for theft. A theme most hobbyist game programmers want to distance themselves from.
Though actually the Stolen Pixel Cup sounds pretty cool.
Re:Two pixels ... (Score:0)
As well, I think "liberated" may not have been the best verb to apply as it is a synonym for theft. A theme most hobbyist game programmers want to distance themselves from.
You're publicly projecting [wikipedia.org] again.
Re:Two pixels ... (Score:0)
...as will every news outlet beyond the nerdsphere.
Naming stuff isn't easy, no doubt there, but a little care can be taken too.
Heck, the "All Free Pixel Cup" means the same thing but sounds so much better, whatever, I hope they do well and have fun...
Re:Two pixels ... (Score:2)
Just to be absolutely clear about this: Any art that is found to be submitted in violation of copyright will be immediately disqualified. We want to add a body of art to the commons so people don't have to rip art from other places. :)
Fantasy themed content only? (Score:2)
Re:Fantasy themed content only? (Score:3)
Re:Fantasy themed content only? (Score:3)
The lighting in your example is inconsistent.
The trees have shadows straight below.
The house has the light coming from the left.
Re:Fantasy themed content only? (Score:0)
The example was made with some now outdated art, it will be fixed in the actual artwork to be used in the contest.
Seems legit... (Score:1)
Re:Seems legit... (Score:3)
Not sure how serious you are, but as in terms of "dates" the contest dates are set in the rules: http://lpc.opengameart.org/content/lpc-rules [opengameart.org]
And if you want to "buy it"... well you can donate to us here [fsf.org]! :)
Re:Seems legit... (Score:1)
Re:Seems legit... (Score:1)
It's an opensource game, you only have to buy support for it.
I could be wrong (Score:2)
But I believe the 32x32 tile size is the same for RPG Maker. Regardless, like the contest says, these tiles could work in a variety of genres and its exciting to see more art become available from the community!
I am against restrictive art (Score:1)
Re:I am against restrictive art (Score:1)
So don't use their free art. Make your own.
The game does not have to only run on free-platforms, but has to run on them as well. There is no point to a FREE game that requires non-FREE software to run it.
Re:I am against restrictive art (Score:5, Insightful)
Just want to set the record straight on a couple of things:
The FSF considers art to be non-functional data that does not trigger the GPL's linking requirement:
Data that has an aesthetic purpose, rather than a functional one, may be included in a free system distribution as long as its license gives you permission to copy and redistribute, both for commercial and non-commercial purposes. For example, there are some game engines that have been released under the GNU GPL, and have accompanying game information—a world map, game graphics, and so on—released under such a verbatim distribution license. This kind of data can be part of a free system distribution.
Source: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html [gnu.org]
Secondly, the art will be dual licensed as CC-BY-SA, so even if you happen to not like the GPL, you need not use the art under that license. Also, while the contest requires your art to be CC-BY-SA and GPL for the sake of consistency, you are also entirely free to license it under a less restrictive license as well.
Finally, your assertion that the game has to run only on a 100% free platform is false. Your game can run on any platforms you want it to. It's just that those platforms must include a 100% free platform.
We don't want to restrict what you do with your code and art. However, we do have a set of standards for entry -- as long as those standards are met, you can do anything you want with your work.
Re:I am against restrictive art (Score:1)
Just want to set the record straight on a couple of things:
The FSF considers art to be non-functional data that does not trigger the GPL's linking requirement:
Data that has an aesthetic purpose, rather than a functional one, may be included in a free system distribution as long as its license gives you permission to copy and redistribute, both for commercial and non-commercial purposes. For example, there are some game engines that have been released under the GNU GPL, and have accompanying game information—a world map, game graphics, and so on—released under such a verbatim distribution license. This kind of data can be part of a free system distribution.
Source: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html [gnu.org]
Secondly, the art will be dual licensed as CC-BY-SA, so even if you happen to not like the GPL, you need not use the art under that license. Also, while the contest requires your art to be CC-BY-SA and GPL for the sake of consistency, you are also entirely free to license it under a less restrictive license as well.
Finally, your assertion that the game has to run only on a 100% free platform is false. Your game can run on any platforms you want it to. It's just that those platforms must include a 100% free platform.
We don't want to restrict what you do with your code and art. However, we do have a set of standards for entry -- as long as those standards are met, you can do anything you want with your work.
I was just referencing someone else's comment that made it sound like it had to be on a 100% free platform. I didn't see a comment it was responding to, so I didn't know if it was out of context. I am glad to find out that the art does not affect your software license; the FAQ page for OGA made it sound like this was the case.
Re:I am against restrictive art (Score:0)
Your complaint can also be extended to the artwork itself, especially since the different CC licenses are not compatible with each other. According to their own FAQ page, if the resulting license is a CC BY-SA, you can only use artwork that is completely your own generation, in the public domain, licensed under the BY or BY-SA (but not BY-NC or BY-NC-SA) license or under another compatible license, in which case you better call your attorney (or the contest calls their's) to make sure it is compatible.
2d only (Score:0)
I'm a blender 3d artist, and have worked on blow than a few games.. I was excited about this. Then I saw that it was 2d only..so I'm out.
Re:2d only (Score:2)
If this goes over well, we're discussing moving in different directions next year (and that may very well include 3D).
In the meantime, I'll plug a similar contest that might interest you on behalf of a friend of mine, that's going on right now. :)
http://tempestintheaether.org/index.php/news/133-open-tempest-3d [tempestintheaether.org]
Re:2d only (Score:1)
Re:2d only (Score:2)
So, what stops you from doing the art in 3d and rendering it to 2d "sprites" ?
Re:2d only (Score:2)
Nothing at all, really. :)
That said, you'll probably need to "post process" it in a pixel editor to make it consistent with the art theme (since art entries are being judged on consistency, among other things).
Linux support pretty much required? (Score:0, Interesting)
I was sort of interested in this before reading the rules.
"Platform: Your code must be able to be compiled and run on a 100% free-as-in-freedom platform. It may not make use of any proprietary libraries or VMs. Just to be clear, we cannot accept games that require any of the following: Flash, Silverlight, XNA, Unity, Windows, MacOS (or OSX), iOS, the official Oracle JVM, or similar. It is perfectly acceptable if your game runs on any of these platforms, but it must also work on an open platform (we strongly recommend making sure that your program run on modern flavors of GNU/Linux, as all of the judges will have access to it)."
Funny, they don't force the artists to use GIMP over tools they are familiar with. Sometimes people just like using a game competition as an excuse to make a game and not as a platform for some idealogical political crap. Why else would so many people enter into game jams where there aren't even winners? Can we also assume that the judges are savvy enough to compile and install my game on Linux (and it's dependencies)? Can I require them to have working OpenGL even if that means they need to install scary proprietary GL drivers?
The way these GPL people push their ideals really tick me off sometimes. I've sort of jokingly thought that I should change my open source projects from a BSD license to a modified one that doesn't allow static linking with GPL libraries. Seems fair right? Why shouldn't I also punish developers for using restrictive licenses (such as the GPL).
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:2)
This is free stuff, you are not losing anything by not using it.
These are FREE culture folks, why would they host a contest contrary to their beliefs?
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:2)
Python, SDL, GTK+, OpenJDK etc - you just have to be able to run it on a system without requiring non-free software to be present.
Here's a good indicator: if you can also run it on a standard debian install, you are probably meeting the requirement.
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:4, Insightful)
They aren't forcing anything on you. They only insist that you don't force things on them.
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:0)
Damn Commies! ^h^h^h^h^h^h^h Libertarians
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:2)
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:2)
I don't dabble in OpenGL, but I thought the 2D stuff was supported in the open source drivers?
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:4, Informative)
Funny, they don't force the artists to use GIMP over tools they are familiar with. Sometimes people just like using a game competition as an excuse to make a game and not as a platform for some idealogical political crap. Why else would so many people enter into game jams where there aren't even winners?
As has been stated earlier, it is perfectly fine if your game runs on any of those proprietary platforms listed. It just needs to also run on a free-as-in-freedom platform, since that's the point of the contest. To be clear, it's not about restricting developers, it's about not restricting users. If your game requires a proprietary toolkit such as XNA, you've limited yourself to people who have purchased Windows. If you build your game out of free libraries, as long as you do it correctly, it will run very happily on Windows, Linux, and Macintosh.
Can we also assume that the judges are savvy enough to compile and install my game on Linux (and it's dependencies)?
The rules address this question:
Ease of use: Your game should be easy to compile and run. You won't be disqualified automatically if a judge is unable to run your game, but it will count against you. You are advised to avoid having large numbers of obscure dependencies or requiring bleeding edge (unstable) libraries.
I think it's pretty clear from that that the judges are willing to compile your game in order to run it, but would appreciate if you stick to relatively common libraries and make sure compilation is a smooth process.
Can I require them to have working OpenGL even if that means they need to install scary proprietary GL drivers?
Your tone here is unnecessarily rude. For the record, there are non-proprietary OpenGL drivers that work just fine, so you don't need to worry about OpenGL support.
The way these GPL people push their ideals really tick me off sometimes. I've sort of jokingly thought that I should change my open source projects from a BSD license to a modified one that doesn't allow static linking with GPL libraries. Seems fair right? Why shouldn't I also punish developers for using restrictive licenses (such as the GPL).
In the grand scheme of things, allowing contest entries to use any other license (even CC0) in addition to the GPL is a pretty poor way of "pushing" the GPL on people, don't you think? We're requiring it for licensing consistency, because it provides a level of freedom that we deem necessary for the contest. If you wish to grant your users additional freedoms by releasing your code under other licenses in addition to the GPL, that's completely fine.
Re:Linux support pretty much required? (Score:0)
The way these GPL people push their ideals really tick me off sometimes.
So if Microsoft held a game competition, you wouldn't participate if they required you to use Windows or .NET? Come on.
Maybe we'll get another Xonotic out of this... (Score:1)
Re:Maybe we'll get another Xonotic out of this... (Score:0)
I'd love to see Carmack come up with something. I'd pay hard $$$ for a complete GNU/Linux friendly FPS.