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Only English Final Fantasy 2 NES Cartridge On Sale for $50K 109

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Croakyvoice writes "In what seems to be the 'in thing' at the moment comes another auction to add to last month's Zelda NES auction and that crazy million dollar collection. This time, for RPG fans, this could be classed as the Holy Grail of NES games. The game in question is Final Fantasy 2, which was never released outside of Japan, but luckily for the person who at this time is selling this on eBay for 50K, there was one made for the 1991 Winter Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas by SquareSoft. Sadly, the U.S. version never had a release because they decided to work on the Super NES instead."
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Only English Final Fantasy 2 NES Cartridge On Sale for $50K

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  • by uCallHimDrJ0NES (2546640) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @07:27PM (#41103351)
    Before Square burnt up every bit of affection the general public had for the name "Final Fantasy".
    • by Smauler (915644) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:23PM (#41103915)

      When did they do that? I personally hated 13, loved 12, liked 10, hated 9, loved 8, quite liked 7, and after (or before) this it's not about affection for the gaming public, because very few people have actually played 1-6.

      You'll get loads of people disagreeing with my personal opinion about FF, but IMO FF12 was the best they've done. Yeah, they fucked up 13 (IMO), but they've fucked up in the past and come back. It's still a franchise I'll buy into.

      • by Burning1 (204959) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:41PM (#41104089) Homepage

        Huh? Lots and lots of us in the US played Final Fantasy 1, Final Fantasy 4, and Final Fantasy 6. A bunch of us also played fan translations of Final Fantasy 5. I also played 7, but I haven't tried anything more recent... I just don't have the time or energy to play Final Fantasy games anymore.

        I wouldn't be surprised if there's a bit of a generational gap between those of us who played FF1-6, and those that play FF7+

        My bet is that the guys who played FF1-6 are the same group who miss reading Nintendo Power. :)

        • by k8to (9046) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @10:31PM (#41104775) Homepage

          I'm too old for nintendo power (there was no Atari Power).
          However I did enjoy final fantasy 1 and 4 (or 1 and 2 as i knew them.)

          • It was called "Atari Age". I was an avid reader of it. They had an exclusive game published for readers only: Rubik's Cube.
        • by Myria (562655)

          You're probably right about that. I love FF3, FF4, FF6, FF7, FF9; moderately like FF1 and FF5; and totally hate FF2, FF8, FF10, FF12, FF13. And yes, I miss Nintendo Power. =)

          My friend and I made the FF5 fan translation you played, but I never actually played through the game until like a decade later. FF5 wasn't one of my favorites, but it didn't suck like FF8 and FF13.

        • i still have by old issues of Nintendo Power you insensitive clod.

          im 34, ive never played a FF title past FF3/FF6 except the MMO which was honestly kind of crappy.
      • because very few people have actually played 1-6.

        Are you implying that those people (including myself) are old? ;)

        Actually, I played all up to 8 (in Japanese version first, and then in English). When I was 12, I played Final Fantasy 1 when it first came out (in Japanese) and I was hooked because the battle system was completely unique that day. I am an old school and I like cartoon more than real. I like them up to 7. Once 8 came out and I tried for a couple hours, I no longer wanted to play it any more because the game looked too real and not a single pa

      • I think that's what he means... Back in the days, we loved FF1-3 (US) and 7. There wasn't a "hit and miss". It was good, the entire series. Now, though, people hate some of the FF games... that's burning the affection. :(
  • .... makes me think FF2 might not be far behind.

  • Is it worth it? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by joeflies (529536) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @07:40PM (#41103467)

    I never really understood why these development cartridges fetch such high prices. Well, on a superficial level, I understand since it's a matter of supply and demand. But at a deeper level, it's a one off because it's an unfinished product. To me, I don't see any difference between a free fan-based english conversion vs an official "never sold to the public" version.

    Would you pay millions of dollars for a test version of Windows 98 developed for esperanto? The answer is no, because nobody cares. However, the same logic doesn't apply when it comes to toys and games

    • Re:Is it worth it? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Githaron (2462596) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @07:51PM (#41103555)
      It gains the owner prestige in his/her social circle.
    • Re:Is it worth it? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by _Shad0w_ (127912) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:04PM (#41103715)

      I would and you wouldn't, because you don't care and I don't care, but I bet someone would and does. People like to collect all sorts of things and some of them have a lot of money to spare. Collecting game cartridges is no more stupid than numismatics, philately, or even cartophily - some cigarette cards have sold for millions.

    • Re:Is it worth it? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by veganboyjosh (896761) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:12PM (#41103811)
      Altho i'm loathe to use the word/admit it, i collect vinyl records. i tend to focus on a specific sub-genre of one that's not uber popular, so the records i'm really after and willing to spend more than list price on usually don't go for too much. Many of my peers are into collecting every variation of a record that's pressed on multiple colors of vinyl. (ie, a label will press 1000 of a particular band's album. 500 of these will be on black vinyl, 250 on red, 200 on green, and 50 on clear vinyl.) My collector nerd friends would then seek out all 4 versions. Indeed, a lot of labels even offer a pre-sale package featuring all 4 variants, particular for these guys.

      In addition to a completist mentality behind wanting to own every variant of a record, there is also a demand (ranging from "mildly interested" to "i will mortgage the house to get this") for "test pressings" of records. These are just like what they sound. There are usually fewer than 20 of these made per release. Often less than 10 or even 5. Plain white labels or possibly a boilerplate label with "artist, song title, label" info handwritten onto the labels. No printed cover. A few go to the label, some to the band, for listening to and final proofing before the "go ahead and make us 1000 copies" order is put in. It's very rare that there is a change to an album once the test pressings have been created and they are almost NEVER available for sale to the general public. I've mostly only seen them for sale after the album comes out, strictly as collector items.

      The $50k asking price may be ridonkulous, but the demand for this one-off game makes perfect sense to me in light of what i've seen people get stupid over in the vinyl world.
      • by andyn (689342)

        Altho i'm loathe to use the word/admit it

        No you don't. Damn hipsters!

      • by Man On Pink Corner (1089867) on Friday August 24, 2012 @01:53AM (#41105957)

        I don't think anyone will give you shit for collecting vinyl records, as long as you're not one of those nutters who claims they are better at reproducing sound than a properly mastered CD. "Vinyl collector" does not necessarily equal "Vaccine-shunning, astrology-believing, $5,000-power-cable-buying, moon-landing-denying audiophile."

        • Re:Is it worth it? (Score:4, Interesting)

          by realityimpaired (1668397) on Friday August 24, 2012 @07:03AM (#41107171)

          I don't think anyone will give you shit for collecting vinyl records, as long as you're not one of those nutters who claims they are better at reproducing sound than a properly mastered CD

          I haven't heard a "properly mastered CD" in years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gmex_4hreQ [youtube.com]

          That's why vinyl sounds better... it's not that the medium itself is better, it's that it's not physically possible to press a record that's been as overmastered as the crap that they can do with a CD.

          • Movies usually have pretty good sound quality. My assumption has been that the sound artists adhere strictly to one or another Dolby standard. Mixing and mastering CDs should have similar standards.
        • Closest I've ever come is picking up an audiophile magazine at a bookstore, in which there was a review of a 1 meter RCA cable that cost $5,000. That's more than I've ever spent on audio equipment in my life, combined. I don't like being a collector. I just enjoy collecting the records.
    • Re:Is it worth it? (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Chemisor (97276) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:13PM (#41103821)

      People also pay a lot of money for an original Van Gogh painting, even though a good modern painter can make you a copy that only an expert would be able to distinguish from the original. If appearance were the only thing that mattered, the price difference wouldn't have been as great.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      Selling items that have no tangible value is what capitalism is all about. I wish the Soviet Union was still around to force this type of non-sense out of consumers.

    • by Z34107 (925136)

      You answered your own question. Supply is rather constrained, and there's a lot more demand for a piece of Square and Nintendo history than there is for old Windows betas.

  • by Spy Handler (822350) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @07:56PM (#41103623) Homepage Journal
    50k is his asking price. As anyone who's watched Pawn Stars knows, there's usually a big difference between what people ask for and what they end up getting.
    • by sconeu (64226)

      I've never figured out why people take some of that shit to a pawn shop instead of Christies.

      Case in point, the Willie Mays uniform, or the George Washington Funeral Medal.

      • because they want it back? That's what a Pawn shop is all about. Secured Loans. They hold the item and are responsible for security and everything else.

        • by Nidi62 (1525137)
          The items the OP mentioned were actually sold to the shop on the show. They usually get anywhere from 40-70% of retail value depending on their negotiating skills/how bad Rick/whoever wants the item.
      • by Darkness404 (1287218) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:23PM (#41103913)
        Because Pawn Stars is a TV show, they run a real Pawn Shop but many episodes are filmed with actors "recreating" moments that might have happened. Just look at http://centraltendencies.com/2011/03/pawn-stars-is-fake/ [centraltendencies.com]

        That doesn't mean that its any less entertaining, but its a staged show bringing in far more interesting things than what the average pawn shop owner would ever see in their lifetime.
      • I've never figured out why people take some of that shit to a pawn shop instead of Christies.

        They explain it to customers all the time during their negotiations.
        "Yeah it will sell for triple my offer at an auction, but you will have to pay $$$$ upfront for catalogue fees and appraisal, then a percentage after sale, and it may take 6 months to sell".

        People go to a pawn shop because they need money TODAY, bills have to be paid.
        They dont have any money for upfront costs, they cant wait months for the sale. They need that cash in their hand asap and thats what a pawn shop specialises in.

      • by Zorque (894011)

        There's a possibility of making more money at a pawn shop. Most big auction houses take fees of at least 30%, which of course is only worthwhile if you can get more out of the auction than the item is really worth. At a pawn shop you can often talk them into giving you 75%+ of the item's worth.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    That's right folks, it's a crime! Don't copy that floppy, don't copy that ROM! You're only paying for the physical media, and once it wears out, it's gone.

    • by LocalH (28506)

      Too late, it's already been copied. :P

    • Maybe legally so. But if I was the creator of FF2, at this point I would only be glad if people were copying it and, thus preserving and enjoying the game.
  • by cvtan (752695) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:15PM (#41103839)
    I have this copyrighted chocolate chip cookie recipe. It's the only copy written in English. Because you know it's not possible to make another copy of it.
  • by guttentag (313541) on Thursday August 23, 2012 @08:26PM (#41103949) Journal
    A screenshot [lostlevels.org] of the game shows the status screen for a character that has been killed. It simply reads: "GUY DEAD"
  • I bet that would fetch a zillion dollars... Hell the Chalice of Light [wikipedia.org]would probably fetch a mint at auction, millions perhaps?
  • I have an idea. (Score:2, Interesting)

    Someone launch a Kickstarter project to buy this then put the ROMs out for the rest of the world to use on emulators.

  • A prime example of why studios think you shouldn't get to sell the games you bought, none of the money is going to the studio, which makes them very sad.

    • What is interesting though, would FF2 still sell, if it was available for, let's say 1€? Should game publishers put their past catalogue on sale, bundled with proper emulators to support them? I'm just asking a neutral question. In a way this is already happening at GOG.com.
  • "In what seems to be the in thing at the moment

    Bit of a clunky opening. I'd hyphenate "in-thing" so it parses more easily.

    last months

    Jesus, really?

    Zelda Nes auction

    That would be "NES". And was it a NES that was sold, or a NES game?

    and that crazy Million Dollar Collection.

    Oh yeah, that! Wait, what?

    This time for RPG fans this could be classed as the Holy Grail of Nes [sic] games.

    This could be classed as the Holy Grail of NES games for RPG fans.

    The game in question is Final Fantasy 2 which was never released outside of Japan but luckily for the person who at this time is selling this on Ebay for 50K, there was one made for the 1991 Winter Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas by SquareSoft, sadly the USA version never had a release because they decided to work on the Super NES instead."

    65 words. Two commas.

    on Ebay for 50K

    Another example of the headline having more information than the summary - that's in $. But is it 50 kilo-dollars or 50 kibi-dollars?

  • Rather than spending $50K on a NES cartridge, you could just go to the iPhone app store and buy Final Fantasy II for 8.99$.

    Just sayin'.

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