Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled On 360 393
Despite expectations that this would be the least eventful of the E3 pre-conferences, Microsoft's Peter Moore drops the news that Grand Theft Auto IV will be on Xbox 360. Rockstar and Microsoft have teamed up to do exclusive episodic content in the GTA gameworld for the 360. Slated to release October 16, 2007 in North America, October 19 in Europe. Other details include lots of support for Live Arcade titles (Sonic, Galaga, Street Fighter II), the official unveiling of Shadowrun for the 360 and PC, the airing of the Halo 3 Teaser Trailer (which is already on Xbox Live), and much discussion of 'Live Anywhere'. This last is an expansion of Xbox Live to PC and cell platforms in addition to the Xbox arena.
Gamespot says no. (Score:2, Insightful)
XBox 360 with 20GB hard drive ($400) + HD-DVD drive addon ($100?) + 1 year XBox Live ($50) = $550.
Playstation 3 with 20GB hard drive ($500) + Bluray drive (included) + 5 years online (included) = $500.
Sony are the arrogant ones here, though, right? OK, just checking. I'm finding it increasingly hard to keep track.
By the way, Zonk, GTA4 isn't an XBox exclusive. [gamespot.com]
I'm confused (Score:2)
Just curious.
Re:I'm confused (Score:3, Informative)
Because the market was demanding more storage capacity than ROMs could offer (16-32MB early in the N64's lifetime, 64MB later). Nintendo lost Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest to PlayStation because of this.
What are the advantages of CD/DVD again?
10x the capacity of the largest N64 cards ever manufacturered. CD soundtracks, pre-rendered video, streamed textures - you name it.
At least in those days when
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:2, Redundant)
"Microsoft and Rockstar have entered into an exclusive deal to privide episodic content via Xbox Live Marketplace."
so additional content will be only available on the 360 if I understand this correctly.
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:2)
so additional content will be only available on the 360 if I understand this correctly.
It certainly reads that way, but I'd be shocked if it wasn't for both consoles. It probably just means the deal is inked with MS already, because Sony is still shaking out whatever their Live service is. Rockstar wants that money from the biggest pool of players.
that's a crapload of dosh! (Score:2, Funny)
$500? FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS ?!!
And that's without even a game!
I can give a starving village in Africa a herd of four goats [heifer.org] that would make them self-sufficient for that kind of money! (Hah, I bet you thought I was gonna say I could buy blowjobs for a year!...)
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:2, Insightful)
Playstation 3 with 20GB hard drive ($500) + Bluray drive (included) + 5 years online many (included) = $500.
Your numbers are a bit flawed, since the $500 PS3 doesn't have HDMI, which some people require to watch HD content on their TVs, also some Blu-Ray discs are planned to be released as only playable via HDMI (to prevent copying or some such nonsense), so the non-HDMI PS3 can't really be considered a full-fe
wrong, wrong, and wrong (Score:2)
A.) The 360 doesn't have HDMI out, neither version.
B.) You do not ever need HDMI out to watch HD (sorta)
C.) All HD movies will play over non-HDCP outputs, just at
Re:wrong, wrong, and wrong (Score:3, Informative)
b)Depends on the publisher. Sony movies says for their initial blu-ray movie release they'll turn off the secured output requirement. Other publishers may not be as nice. Also all upscaling dvd players require HDCP out.
c) All depends if ps3 has unified video/sound port like the 360. My guess they'll probably have one but you never know its sony were talking about. They've been acting pretty irrational lately.
Any way I could careless what sony does, i'm getting a wii in nove
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:2)
2007...2007!!! (Score:2)
Re:errrr. Check the year (Score:2)
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:3, Informative)
Hardly the Base PS3 has pretty much the same feature set as the top of the line 360. Does the 360 have an external HDMI port? Nope. Both machines can do HDMI with a break out cable via their multi-out connectors. The base PS3 is lacking the ability to do dual HDTV, but is that really an issue for most people, I doubt it.
Let us see what else the base PS3 is lacking.
-WiFi built in, you can add that the same way you can add WiFi to the 360.
-The card reader, humm the 360 doesn't have
making shit up? (Score:3, Insightful)
And your comments about CPU utilization are wrong. The multiple cores on the 360 don't do much without being programmed for. IIRC, Microsoft has said that none of the current crop of games take much, if any, adv
Re:making shit up? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not too concerned about the memory card or WiFi, since those are all things I imagine can be easily added. It's the HDMI output that's a bit odd. Yeah, there's USB support, so is that how it's going to be done?
I do
Re:making shit up? (Score:3, Interesting)
Not even DVI, just HDMI. Technically, you are correct. This is the deal: currently the hardware manufacturers are agreeing in principle to only send the highest-resolution
not quite (Score:2)
Regarding BD movie playback... BD has support for HDCP, so, any studio that wants can limit non HDCP playback to (IIRC) 480p, so you wouldn't get the full resolution. But, HDCP is coming under fire lately, and a number of movie studios are backing away from it. Currently, mos
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:3, Informative)
Let's compare features of the high-end packages:
HDMI support
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A
802.11
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - Add-on available for $100
60gb HD
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A, only 20GB HD available
Motion-sensitive controllers
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A
Blu-ray
PS3 - included
Xbox360 - N/A, HD-DVD available (someday) for additional cost
etc... Hell, the Wii is going to include motion-sensitve controllers and wifi. I'd rather drop $600 up front to have those features included, instead of $400 then pi
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:3, Insightful)
Rumble controllers:
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
Being able to play a game for less than $500
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
XNA Framework:
PS3: N/A
XBox 360: Included
You can say anything you want by carefully tailoring what you claim to be "Features"
Re:Gamespot says no. (Score:3, Insightful)
Untrue. The PSP didn't ship with a camera or a GPS, and yet, here they come. I direct your attention to the USB ports - they work pretty much like the ones on your PC. Unless of course, Sony has suddenly decided that it doesn't like to make add-on peripherals for their toys, like they
WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:5, Informative)
The Xbox version will have "episodic releases" via Xbox Live.
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:3, Interesting)
AND, due to the PS3 not having the same extra content I feel relatively safe in assuming this won't affect the rest of the game, it wil
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:2)
I'm thinking additional missions, and maybe more vehicles. Possibly but not likely more areas, and a few other minor things like guns.
But just the thought if missions alone... Liberty City Stories wasn't enough to get me to shell out for a PSP, but I'll plunk down the discount cost for it for PS2 in a month...
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:2)
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:5, Funny)
Oh goodie. I'm glad companies are finally listening to me, the consumer. I'm sick of buying a game and then having it. I'd much rather be nickle-and-dimed for additional content as it's made available to me at their discretion.
Investment of sorts (Score:2)
Re:Investment of sorts (Score:3, Informative)
...
Re:Investment of sorts (Score:2)
and it is optional. You purchased a complete, working game. They later release additional, optional content that you can choose to play with. It doesn't degrade your current experiance. You have the same experiance you had when you purchased the game. I don't see the problem. You don't lose value, and the people who see the value in the new content can choose to purchase it...
How is this different from an expansion pack? (Score:2)
Oblivion is going the way of smaller expansions and lower prices. (No new land+dozens of quests for $20-40, but rather one or two new quest arcs for $2.) I personally don't like this, but it's a valid market choice- if it works for Oblivion why not GTA3?
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:2)
If they sold a pack of say 20 missions, for $20... then it would be worth it.
Re:WRONG... episodic releases are exclusive (Score:2, Informative)
GTA on 360 and PS3 (Score:5, Interesting)
The other news... (Score:3, Funny)
"What is that in Bill's hands? He's holding a tiny white object and can't stop fiddling with it."
Finally! News that Bill truly is one of us - except hes probably more compulsive about the whole thing.
Re:The other news... (Score:3, Funny)
There's a reason he named his company micro soft...
From the Article (Score:3, Funny)
Unified Live!! (Score:5, Interesting)
Ves
Re:Unified Live!! (Score:2)
Re:Unified Live!! (Score:3, Funny)
I can picture it now:
Microsoft Office Vista:
* Formated a document using Bold [10 Points]
* Narrowed the margins to make your report seem longer then it is [50 Points]
* Printed more then 10 copies of a document [25 Points]
* Saved the same document more then 20 times [10 Points]
* Created a new document [5 Points]
* Created 100 new documents [100 Points]
Oh boy! I sure know I can't wait!
Re:Unified Live!! (Score:2)
Next you'll tell me it has FPSes and sports games (Score:2, Funny)
How innovative!
Most likely (Score:5, Interesting)
What no one is mentioning is the PC release. Rockstar tends to wait for a few months after console release before releasing the PC version. They're not being jerks. They're retooling it for the purpose of bringing it over to PC. That's why the GTA series hasn't suffered from consolitis, by and large. I'll be looking forward to GTA IV on the PC, even if I have to wait half a year.
Re:Most likely (Score:3, Insightful)
Why the uproar? (Score:2, Informative)
San Andreas is really 5 (V).
Any NEW GTA whatever the name would technically be 6 or 7 (if you count Liberty City Stories).
Re:Why the uproar? (Score:2)
Re:Why the uproar? (Score:2)
Re:Why the uproar? (Score:4, Informative)
I don't know if this is still the case but I remember them making a big deal about it between the release of Vice City and San Andreas.
Numbering scheme? (Score:2)
GTA I, II and III were normal. Then we got Vice City and San Andreas, which would be IV and V respectively.
They're now suddenly going back to using normal numerical systems? What are VC and SA then? III.III and III.VII?
Re:Numbering scheme? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Numbering scheme? (Score:2, Informative)
They can stick their 'episodic content' up their.. (Score:5, Insightful)
I'm sick of this crap where game companies think they can get $1.00 out of us for what would have been $0.10 of content had it been in an expansion pack, or included in the game to begin with. I'm also pissed at all the stupid moron gamers that buy this crap that 'costs less than a cup of coffee' because they don't understand that they're paying way more money in the long run; thus letting the micropayment mind-games continue.
I wish one of the next-gen consoles didn't have an online component, so they wouldn't be able to pull this crap. I'd buy that console instead of the other ones.
Re:They can stick their 'episodic content' up thei (Score:3, Interesting)
No it didn't. It prompted them to offer the later content at a slightly reduced price. ($0.10 less? Give me a break.) I have the game. I love the game. I have the Orrery add-on... If taken as a fraction of a $35 expansion pack, there is about $0.25 worth of content in it.
I'd buy the "expensive to create next-gen content" argument if the game weren't 10% content and 90% cut and paste copies of that
Good news for the 360 (Score:2)
(Though I'll probably get one when it comes down in price.)
Why did you change the title and text? (Score:5, Insightful)
Cell platforms? (Score:2)
This last is an expansion of Xbox Live to PC and cell platforms in addition to the Xbox arena.
Okay, am I completely misreading this or does that open the door to PS3 vs XBox 360 over XBox Live?
Probably not, but it's an interesting possibility.
Re:Cell platforms? (Score:2)
Whores! (Score:2)
All was good when the top-down view games were on PC first, just as god intended. But then they sold out to Sony for GTA3-5. Now they sold themselves to MS for 360. Thankfully, being the whores they are, they'll release a PC version sooner or later, but I'll still be pissed off when I'm the only one not getting any...
Wow (Score:3, Insightful)
What is MS going to talk about at next year's E3, Halo 8, arriving at your local game store October 7, 2059.
Re:It is NOT a 360 exclusive. (Score:4, Informative)
"Grand Theft Auto IV will be simultaneously available for the PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360(TM)"
I think that settles it.
Re:It is NOT a 360 exclusive. (Score:3, Informative)
Re:GTAIV this holiday. (Score:5, Insightful)
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060509/20060509006185.htm
NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 9, 2006--Rockstar Games, the universally-renowned publishing label of Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc. (NASDAQ: TTWO - News), is proud to announce Grand Theft Auto IV, the next-generation console debut of the genre-defining Grand Theft Auto franchise. Developed by world-class designers Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto IV will be simultaneously available for the PlayStation®3 and Xbox 360(TM) and is currently planned to be in stores in North America on October 16, 2007 and in Europe on October 19, 2007.
Re:GTAIV this holiday. (Score:2)
Re:GTAIV this holiday. (Score:2)
Not exactly. Sony and Microsoft are getting the game the same day. Okay, not as exciting, but anybody who didn't want to play San Andreas on the PS2 had to wait something like six months. GTA was actually one of the games that made me consider a PS3, but it's nice to know I have more of a choice now.
I'm still a little saddened, though. I really really want this game on the Wii. I loved San Andreas, but the PS2 controls were exactly the reason I
Re:What kind of 'exclusive'? (Score:5, Insightful)
So, whatever is the case with this GTA exclusivity for 360, it's a huge blow against sony. In north america at least.
Re:What kind of 'exclusive'? (Score:2)
Still, this is a major coup for MS since no longer are they getting the "scraps" from Rockstar. I know there were millions of folks who bought a PS2 soley for GTA3, and Xbox owners had to wait a very long couple of months before it final
Re:What kind of 'exclusive'? (Score:3, Informative)
Controls (Score:2)
Re:Controls (Score:2)
Re:Controls (Score:2)
Re:Controls (Score:2)
I hope that some day soon we'll see onlines services and games that allow PC and console gamers to go head-to-head without artificially handicapping controls. I've spent quite a bit of time on both, and I belie
Re:Controls (Score:2)
Re:What kind of 'exclusive'? (Score:2)
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
DOA4 is here
DOAX2 is coming
HALO 3 is coming
GTA 4 is coming
Madden for the 360 sucks.
It's finally reaching a point that I might think it's worth getting one.
PS3:
Nothing is here.
The console itself if coming... eventually.
Madden for the 360 sucks.
Wii:
Nothing is here.
The console is coming, but won't take advantage of my HDTV anyway.
Madden for the 360 sucks.
Amid the 360 hype (from haters and fanboys alike), I've mostly been sitting on the side-lines to see what Sony and Nintendo would be offering before
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
The big news here is not that the exclusive content for the 360.
The big news is that it's coming out on the 360 at all. The last three GTA games were each PS2 exclusives for many months.
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
(and yes, the GP was a joke).
Re:You know what that means? (Score:4, Interesting)
The X-Box exclusive DOA series is *almost* enough on its own to make me want a 360, and hopes for more HALO games also has me rather jazzed over it. My "wait and see" attitude has mostly been based on a fondness for GTA:III & GTA:VC, which were exclusive to the PS2 for about a year.
If Sony does not have the GTA series locked up in their stable, what is there left to wait and see? BluRay? The Wii controller?
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
Wii controller?
You answered your own question.
Re:You know what that means? (Score:2)
Not every sequal is great or even good.
Re:Really? (Score:2)
Re:fuck you Zonk (Score:5, Informative)
Grand Theft Auto IV Unveiled As 360 Exclusive
Posted by Zonk on Tuesday May 09, @04:03PM
from the didn't-expect-that dept.
E3 Microsoft XBox (Games)
Despite expectations that this would be the least eventful of the E3 pre-conferences, Microsoft's Peter
Moore drops the news that Grand Theft Auto IV will be an Xbox 360 exclusive.
thank you Mr. AC - please mod up (Score:4, Informative)
Re:fuck you Zonk (Score:2)
I don't blame them at all. Since the Xbox 360 hit, or dropped softly onto, the street, Interweb rumor after Interweb rumor has had GTA being either exclusive to the PS3 or at least coming out way ahead of an Xbox 360 version (said rumors being driven mostly by the franchise history). Given the extreme popularity of the franchise, and the fact that the Xbox 360 will be much cheaper than the PS3, this is indeed a very big
Re:fuck you Zonk (Score:2)
Re:fuck you Zonk (Score:2)
Embarassment isn't the correct word, however. I'm hardly embarassed by being made an ass of. It was actually a good laugh.
What I actually am, though, is one of those sad pathetic men who whine about how much /. sucks these days, and the lack of editing skill of the editors(indeed, the lack of reading skill... *sigh*). Most likely I am jealous of Zonk's job. I would certainly love to get paid to do what he does, or pretends to do, whatever your interpretation of his doings is.
It is (Score:2)
Re:Lost my business... (Score:2)
No worries mate, you'll still get to kill people on your PS3...
Re:Lost my business... (Score:2)
Re:Shadowrun looks weak... (Score:2)
Re:Live Anywhere & Cost? (Score:2, Interesting)
But, I guess I understand that some people just can't give up that extra Quarter Pounder w/Cheese Meal once a month..
Re:Live Anywhere & Cost? (Score:4, Interesting)
Nearly every single Live Player has a voice communication mike. You don't have to deal with cheaters on live (I have never encountered a cheater on live, and I am not aware of any cheating software - the only kind of cheating I am aware of is sometimes player intentionaly lower their bandwidth to cause themselves to lag... but there is no software they lets people see through walls or aimbots or whatever like on the PC)... every player has an ID tied to their credit card, so people are less likely to engage in racist/stupid behavior, and when they do I can permanently ban them from my games. I can maintain an integrated list of all the players I like, send them an invitation to play directly from the game, I can see what games they are playing directly from the game.
It is definitly worth the $60 a year for the service they offer.
Re:Wow (Score:2)
According to the following quote from another post...
...the ho will refuse to put out when the John reveals that he's a big-shot tech-geek gangsta, and he'll react in his trademark way.
Re:Halo3 trailer at Bungie.net (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Halo3 trailer at Bungie.net (Score:2)
Re:Halo3 trailer at Bungie.net (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I roll with Mario (Score:5, Funny)
Re:I roll with Mario (Score:2)
Re:GTA 4? eh? (Score:2, Informative)
GTA1 (London being 1.5) - Top Down
GTA2 - 3D accelerated Top Town
GTA3 (Vice City and San Andreas being 3.2 and about 3.6) - 3rd Person
GTA4 - Top down?