The Top 5 Games of All Time 508
An anonymous reader writes "The guys over at trusted reviews have come up with lists of their top five games of all time. There are some obvious choices and some very obscure ones, but on the whole its interesting reading. See how their lists compare to yours."
What? No Freebird? (Score:4, Funny)
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Where is Aztec Challenge [lemon64.com]?????
Best music and gameplay, like.. evaahhh
No Freespace, either? (Score:5, Interesting)
And most notably, where the devs were pimp enough to put a clause allowing completely free redistribution to friends and acquaintances in the EULA, and it's now legitly open-source. Leading to the creation of beautiful graphics packages that breathe new life into it. (video [youtube.com]). Anyone who thinks they might enjoy this game and hasn't tried it yet, you owe it to yourself
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Planescape Torment
Descent: Freespace 1 & 2
The Longest Journey
System Shock 1 & 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Sid Myer's Alpha Centauri
Baldur's Gate series
Thief series
Deus Ex (first only)
Morrowind
Fallout 1 & 2
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What, no Three Gorges Dam? (Score:2, Funny)
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You got any damn bait?
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And in case you're atheist:
-1. Bud Dham
indeed,Wikipedia's list of lists of greatest games (Score:2, Informative)
I bought an N64 just to play Super Mario 64. 3 Shigeru Miyamoto!!
29 pages for top 5 !?! (Score:5, Insightful)
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No RTS games in the lineup? (Score:5, Insightful)
Starcraft (Score:3, Interesting)
The Real Best Games (Score:5, Funny)
1. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
2. Halo 2
3. Half Life 2
4. Counter Strike
5. Battlefield 2
All my 11-year-old neighbors told me so.
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My buddy and I spent most of the summer arguing over the best games of all time. The problem? How do you determine? Do you go by pure fun factor, or do you also consider timeless
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Fast-forward half a decade later, and they're saying the same thing about CS 1.6! A decade from now, I'll hear kids bitching about how Counter-Strike 7 was so much better than CS 8.5.
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What maps did they remove that you liked?
Re:Something to be said for Counter-Strike (Score:5, Funny)
1. spawn
2. run towards nearest big gun
3. kill people
4. die hilariously
5. repeat = fun
and counter strike, (which admittedly i havent played much since one of the original beta's back in 99) goes something like this
1. chose from vast array of guns in a menu and not being a firearms expert have no idea what's what or what's any good about them
2. spawn
3. try to find players on other team, half of whom are camping
4. die from single bullet shot to toe
5. wait 20 minutes for round to end
6. finally repeat = suckage
obviously the former falls into the arcade category and the latter into tactical, so whilst it's most certainly a question of taste i prefer my games to place their emphasis on fast furious fun
Games every gamer should try (Score:5, Interesting)
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Starcraft > Dune II
Counterstrike > Doom
Baldur's Gate 2 or Deus Ex > Zelda
You seem to be listing some top "groundbreaking" games, and that's a little different.
I'm not really into things like Super Street Fighter, so I wouldn't know. My list would have Tetris instead.
At least we agree on Civilization
PONG ??? (Score:2, Funny)
Not a single mention of nethack! (Score:5, Funny)
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1. Nethack
2. X-com UFO Defense
3. Grand Theft Auto III
4. Doom/Wolfenstein 3D (I'm undecided)
5. Starflight
Honorable mentions (unsorted): Contra, Archon, Hitman, Ultima IV, Counterstrike, Autoduel, Dune II, Tetris, Civilization, Bard's Tale, World of Warcraft, Simcity, Wing Commander
of all time? (Score:2, Insightful)
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Trusted Reviews? (Score:5, Insightful)
Quality of layout and choice of graphics aside, this is really a pointless review. But who exactly are these people at TrustedReviews.com? Since when do they exist, and why are we supposed to trust them?
And why does Slashdot keep posting what they write [slashdot.org] again and again?
All good questions, but first... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Trusted Reviews? (Score:5, Funny)
29 trusted reviews later (Score:5, Funny)
Re:29 trusted reviews later (Score:5, Interesting)
I couldn't think of five (Score:2)
Hmm. I got as far as
and couldn't bring myself to add others. While things like Half Life, Starcraft, Deus Ex, BG2, Rogue, and Grim Fandango are all great games, they either didn't change the way I thought about games in quite the way the above three did, or else I don't still enjoy playing them. Rogue and Deus Ex were great, but I just don't play them now, or not much. I don't think Half Life has quite the perfect storyline it needs to make a top five
My own list (Score:5, Insightful)
bzflag, because it remains the premiere open-source 3d multiplayer game, in my view.
Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.
Tempest, because it represents the pinacle of the vector game. No, it wasn't the most advanced one, but best in terms of gameplay, look, adictiveness, and quite frankly, unit sales.
Robotron, because it is the best adrenaline pumping game ever made. Retire the cup.
Pac-Man, because of its sheer iconic status. There were games before Pac-Man, and games after Pac-Man. But anyone can look at any game and immediately be able to say with certainty which group it belongs in. No other game of its time can say that.
Honorable mention goes to Myst, which, like Doom to the FPS, represented a redefinition of the adventure game.
You're welcome.
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Redefined as a boring series of pretty postcards with puzzles in-between? I'll have my Monkey Island instead any day of the week.
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Of all the LucasArts/Sierra Online titles, though, I think Full Throttle was the best game of
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You obviously never wasted a summer playing wolfenstein 3d then?
:) coax and making network terminators with a coax connector, a 50 ohm resistor and a soldering iron... just to play a multiplayer game of Doom :)
Doom would make the list for bringing in network multiplayer though. The amount of time I wasted with cheap network cards, cheap (probably not proper 50 ohm network quality
Then there was try
Wolfenstein (Score:5, Informative)
Doom, because it practically reinvented the FPS, both in terms of originality of gameplay and graphics quality.
No, that was Wolfenstein.
I liked Doom better, but it was Wolf which reinvented the genre.
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Wolf3d invented the FPS genre.
Doom perfected single player FPS and invented multiplayer FPS.
QuakeWorld perfected multiplayer FPS.
Both Doom and Quake were so good they both deserve to make the top 5. As good as Quake is, the single player can't hold a candle to Doom. In fact, I've never seen another game that packs the visceral punch of Doom single player. The sheer quantities of enemies and satisfying weapons (especially the double-barrell shotgun in Doom 2). In Quake it was like
Early bungie games (Score:5, Informative)
and one more thing... Frog blast the vent core!!!!
Play it for free... (Score:4, Informative)
http://source.bungie.org/get/ [bungie.org]
I agree that this is one of the most amazing games ever. Not only did it bring us some technical innovations (at the time) such as the ability to look up and down to aim your weapon, dual triggered weapons, etc., but it was one of the first FPS games to actually have an amazing, intricate plot [bungie.org].
If you haven't played it, go for it.
Coral cache (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.trustedreviews.com.nyud.net:8090/artic
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missing game (Score:5, Funny)
My #1 favorite game is "hide the sausage". Wonder why they didn't list that one.
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At the risk of sounding un-American, I'm disinterested in watching you "get your game on" in a personal way.
Such voyeurism would take away from getting my own on. Or
I suppose you could YouTube yourself, as a popularity check.
Re:missing game (Score:4, Funny)
I think one of the requirements was that the reviewers had to have had experience playing the game.
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How can these guys call themselves gamers? (Score:5, Insightful)
Ocarina of Time instead of Zelda or A Link to the Past?
Jedi Knight instead of KotOR?
Formula 1 GP instead of Gran Turismo?
Unreal Tournament instead of Quake?
No Starcraft?
No Final Fantasy (take your pick) or, at the very least, Chrono Trigger?
No Grand Theft Auto?
I'm missing a bunch I know, but I've only been thinking about this for a few minutes.
Nobody even went oldschool and mentioned a true classic like Donkey Kong, Pit Fall, Pac Man, or Space Invaders.
Which video games are the "best" is ultimately pretty subjective, but they've picked sequels that undeniably weren't the best in their series even. Everyone's got their "out there" pick for an obscure game that they happened to get hooked on, but how can you put those in a "top 5 games of all time" list when there are absolute masterpieces that are basically the same game done better?
Glad I didn't bother to RTF this A and just skimmed the list of games.
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1) Chrono Trigger
2) Doom
3) Super Mario Bros. 3
4) Starcraft
5) Tetris (mainly because of Tetrinet... so addictive)
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Oh yeah! Spectrum Chaos! (Score:3, Interesting)
I remember this game only after reading that... and man, yeah it was great. I think I got the whole game free on a cover cassette of Your Sinclair [wikipedia.org]!
That really brought back memories, and just for that I thank those guys for their lists.
My top 5... (Score:4, Insightful)
Top 5, in no particular order.
Zork
Adventure for the Atari 2600 (Warren Robbinett forever)
Civilization II (sorry, Civ fans, Civ 2 is the definitive version)
Utopia for the Intellivision (the FIRST widespread RTS)
Asteroids arcade version
These aren't even my top five favorites of all time, but the ones I feel deserve even more recognition than they got (ESPECIALLY Utopia, we wouldn't have Starcraft without it). They pioneered generations of games, and their influence is still felt today.
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And just where the hell is Elite (Score:5, Informative)
OK - Lets forget that
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If not elite, maybe least Wing Commander.
My list:
Elite/Wing Commander
Dune II/TA
Doom/Quake
Civ/Alpha Centauri/Railroad Tycoon
Diablo 2
Also, Day of the Tentacle was nice.
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I spent countless hours hunting (and being hunted by) Thargoids
By the way, those who loved Elite should check out X3: Reunion [egosoft.com]. It's close to what Elite would've been in this day and age.
Sure, there's hope for Elite 4 yet... a little more than DNF (though that may just be the optimistic view of an Elite fan talking
No Elite!? (Score:2, Insightful)
Hooray Lucasarts! (Score:2)
Nope, not right (Score:2)
Deli's Top 5 (Score:2)
2. Quake 1 the first fps that allowed for tactical gameplay akin to chess, your skills developed as you played and there was always something more to learn, birth of first game player as idol "Thresh".
Starcraft - Micromanagement and Resource spooging.
Civilization 2 (I just played all 4 it's the best one) - Showing how gaming can mak
My Top 5 (Score:2)
Games beyond earth normal physics: SpaceWar! (first computer game evar)
With six degrees of freedom (sometimes in the game, not always) Star Wars. One of the first decent 3D FPS, too.
My favourites:
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Mine (biased as all get out) (Score:2)
2. Space Rogue [wikipedia.org]
3. Escape Velocity [wikipedia.org]
4. Tempora Heroica [wikipedia.org]
5. Counter-Strike [wikipedia.org]
How about these? (Score:2)
Exile
Elite
Super Mario Bros
Personally I completely agree they deserve it
It's given these 5 games 10 out of 10
Super Mario 64
Gran Turismo
Ocarina of Time
Halo
Half Life 2
Personally I'm not so sure about the last 2
Where is Total Annihilation (Score:4, Insightful)
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Had Cavedog not pissed off Chris Taylor, making him quit, then they might have been able to secure TA's place as a leader in the RTS field. I don't know how they pissed him off, but his departure was sudden, and seemed to be linked to difficulties getting TA2 off the ground.
One minute he was talking about it, the next he was gone, and we got the abortion that was TA-kingdoms instead.
Also, and Chris was equally responsible for this, they said t
quake (Score:2)
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minus score huh...
i don't miss the lag of a 28.8k modem...and when the data flowed again finding oneself in a pool of friggin lava
nethack (Score:2)
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Surely a 'Best Game Of All Time'... (Score:2)
1: Robotron 2084
2: Tomb Raider
3: Tempest 2000
4: Knights of the Old Republic
5: Tetris
Hmm. Only one game produced this century in there.
Looking Glass! (Score:2, Interesting)
Only 1 top game - Defender (Score:2)
Nothing since has even come close. You don't need another 4 games to add
to a best ever list , this game is enough on its own.
Short memory! the reviewers were too young! (Score:3, Insightful)
1. Ms Pac Man : the best Pac Man game and the most successful coin-op ever.
2. World Of Warcraft : best multiplayer game ever.
3. Half Life : best FPS single-player game ever.
4. Civilization : best strategy game ever.
5. Tetris : best action puzzle game ever.
Top 5 Omissions: (Score:3, Insightful)
1 -- Angband, and the Roguelike genre in general
2 -- The great 8 and 16 bit console RPGS -- no Phantasy Star, no 2D Final Fantasy, no Secret of Mana?
3 -- MMORPGs. I hate them, I don't play them, but to have none at all is strange.
4 -- Alpha Centauri, greatest Civ game.
5 -- Planescape: Torment.
I'm also surprised a bit by the absence of both the X-Com and Total War series.
I can understand omitting 2 and 5 if you don't have a soul. But the others are inexplicable!
Re:Online Scrabble & Chess.. (Score:3, Insightful)
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1) Trolling
2) Providing a link to the ad free version of the article
3) Saying something totally obvious but because you write more than a paragraph hoping it'll get modded as insightful
4) Karma whoring
5) Karma whoring other posts (eg mod parent up please!)
Re:Online Scrabble & Chess.. (Score:3, Funny)
What about Duke Nuke'em Forever? The term "ALL TIMES" includes future times (and even far-distant future times).
Re:Online Scrabble & Chess.. (Score:2, Funny)
Beacuse it's 5 games for EACH of the reviewers (Score:2)
Re:Beacuse it's 5 games for EACH of the reviewers (Score:5, Informative)
If there are 5 reviewers (I didn't count), then a game a page plus some extra fluff for intros and you have 29 pages.
Re:let the platforms wars begin (Score:5, Informative)
Riyad:
- Resident Evil 4 - Nintendo GameCube
- Chaos - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Dungeon Explorer - PC Engine
- Blade Runner - PC
- Riyad: Mario 64 - Nintendo 64
Stu:
- The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - N64
- Lords of Midnight - Sinclair ZX Spectrum
- Civilization - PC
- ICO - PlayStation 2
- Half-Life - PC
Benny:
- X-Wing vs Tie Fighter - PC
- Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 - PC
- Counter-Strike - PC
- Unreal Tournament - PC
- Shenmue - Sega Dreamcast
Gordon:
- Kick Off - PC
- Sim City - PC
- Tetris - Nintendo GameBoy
- Championship Manager 2 - PC
- Formula 1 GP - PC
Spode
- Commander Keen - PC
- Lemmings - PC
- Doom - PC
- Monkey Island 2: LeChuck's Revenge - PC
- Day of the Tentacle - PC
Re:Er, random? (Score:5, Insightful)
There's plenty of other examples to go from on the list (like naming civilization instead of civ2), most of which is comprised of good games that didn't sell well, are really old, came from systems most people didn't own or some combination of the previous three. "Good games" is the key phrase here too. Most of the games on the list are in fact good games, they're just not, for the most part, top 5 list worthy.
So in summary, I felt like I was reading an article written by those kids we all knew in school who wouldn't listen to anything that sold over 10,000 albums just so they could look cool.
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On the first page of the article he says he's from the UK, where neither the PC Engine or TurboGrafx was released officially. If you're going to buy a console on import, which would you rather have, a cute PC Engine with loads of Japanese games or the ugly Turbografx with the games relea
Trusted! (Score:3, Funny)
Well, you do have to consider the audience... (Score:2, Insightful)
Well... (Score:5, Funny)
Console games don't count (Score:4, Funny)
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Star Control II is just a relatively uninspired remake of starflight; a graphics facelift is always nice, but the inferior gameplay and lack of originality put it well of the list for me.
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Or hearing that whiff whiff whiff of all the attacks you typed in after you defeated a blob. So how did the game even end? I'd really like to know.
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Let's see if world of warcraft is remembered in fifteen years, or if it's on the scrapheap with Everquest and Diablo.
And isn't it funny how the quoted number of subscribers on world of warcraft goes up by about a million every day?