Furthermore the orcs are a people that comes from somewhere else to wage war with the humans who were already there. Turned up even more in Warcraft where they literally come to a New World and start battling the natives.
Or the Huns in the V century, or the muslims circa 700-1800 AD [wikipedia.org], or the Mongols , or the Bantu [wikipedia.org]... we could go on and on
More seriously, the Orcs are usually depicted as tribal and less technological than the Humans, so they are a bad fit for Spanish conquistadores of Portuguese adventurers.
Well, the Muslims aren't a good fit, because they were as technologically as advanced as both Europe and the Byzantine Empire (and were more limited by more mundane problems like long supply lines and having to leave considerable forces in conquered regions). Huns, maybe, though again, the Huns weren't that far behind the Romans, but by and large, because they were a confederacy of numerous tribes; some from the Asian Steppe, some from Eastern Europe and the Urals, and Germanic tribes as well, so in the end while they could do a lot of damage, it wasn't a sustained invasion in the long run.
Probably the best parallels might be the Germanic tribes of the 1st century, who definitely were not as advanced as the Romans. Other possible parallels might be confederacies like the Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age, or possibly earlier groups like the various hill peoples north and east of Mesopotamia in the Chalcolithic and early Bronze Age periods, who were a constant scourge on the civilizations of Anatolia and Mesopotamia, who definitely were not as materially advanced, but numerous enough to be a constant danger against the nascent city states and kingdoms of the time.
I was simply mocking this "white men baaaad" attitude, I was not trying to draw real life parallels for the Orcs, which is, in my opinion, a task that only AmiMoJo could undertake successfully (successfully from his point of view). The Orcs from fantasy literature are based on legendary creatures from the Indo-European folklore, their real life parallels (if any) are shrouded by the mist of time. As a side note, if, talking about violent invasions, one can only think about white Europeans, there is somethin
You nailed it. Orcs are barbarian hordes prowling outside the walls of the civilized world, always trying to breach those walls and tear down civilization. They represent the absence of culture, the enemy of civilization. And let's not forget that they are LITERAL MONSTERS! Unambiguous foes you can imagine killing without having to worry about whether you're doing the right thing.
Ideology/Politics infesting passtimes (Score:5, Insightful)
Sorry, but if you look at an Orc, Troll, etc and think "Black Person", it's YOU who are the racist.
The whole point of the game is to give you enemies who aren't necessarily other PEOPLE to fight.
This is stupid virtue signaling, turned up to 11, and nothing more.
Look at what this woke crap has done to other industries, like comics.
Sure, the MOVIES make zillions.
But the actual comics industry is now in the toilet, in the process of being flushed.
And it's starting to metastatize in gaming.
Oh well. A 40-odd ye
Re:Ideology/Politics infesting passtimes (Score:3)
Furthermore the orcs are a people that comes from somewhere else to wage war with the humans who were already there. Turned up even more in Warcraft where they literally come to a New World and start battling the natives.
The orcs are the Europeans in the 1500s.
Re:Ideology/Politics infesting passtimes (Score:5, Informative)
The orcs are the Europeans in the 1500s.
Or the Huns in the V century, or the muslims circa 700-1800 AD [wikipedia.org], or the Mongols , or the Bantu [wikipedia.org]... we could go on and on
More seriously, the Orcs are usually depicted as tribal and less technological than the Humans, so they are a bad fit for Spanish conquistadores of Portuguese adventurers.
Re:Ideology/Politics infesting passtimes (Score:4, Interesting)
Well, the Muslims aren't a good fit, because they were as technologically as advanced as both Europe and the Byzantine Empire (and were more limited by more mundane problems like long supply lines and having to leave considerable forces in conquered regions). Huns, maybe, though again, the Huns weren't that far behind the Romans, but by and large, because they were a confederacy of numerous tribes; some from the Asian Steppe, some from Eastern Europe and the Urals, and Germanic tribes as well, so in the end while they could do a lot of damage, it wasn't a sustained invasion in the long run.
Probably the best parallels might be the Germanic tribes of the 1st century, who definitely were not as advanced as the Romans. Other possible parallels might be confederacies like the Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age, or possibly earlier groups like the various hill peoples north and east of Mesopotamia in the Chalcolithic and early Bronze Age periods, who were a constant scourge on the civilizations of Anatolia and Mesopotamia, who definitely were not as materially advanced, but numerous enough to be a constant danger against the nascent city states and kingdoms of the time.
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Furthermore the orcs are a people that comes from somewhere else to wage war with the humans who were already there.
That's just human propaganda. You have to listen to the Orc Israelites if you want to know the true history of Orc Kind (spoiler: Jesus was an Orc).