They make different products for different markets.
Yes they share parts because, get this, they're both CARS, but Porsche and Audi are different enough that calling them "not the same company" is entirely accurate.
No other automakers share engines and platforms to the same extent as the various VAG companies. Period. Nor have they ever since the days when one company built chassis, another built bodies, etc. That is to say, before the proliferation of automakers as we know them.
All the VAG automakers cheated on diesel emissions at the same time and in the same way, which was obviously orchestrated from some high level.
VAG is one big automaker, conglomerated from other automakers, which pretends to be multiple automak
Either you're full of complete shit or just being disingenuous. There's the whole-ass Japanese and Korean automakers where we have the automakers Lexus (which is Toyota), Infiniti (Nissan), Acura (Honda), and Genesis (Hyundai).
No, that's the point. I discuss that in another comment. Those are just other marques for the same automakers. It's the same as Ford/Lincoln. Actually though, the perfect parallel for how they actually operate today is probably Hyundai/Kia.
They're kind of different companies. They all do what the parent company tells them. They all share technology, engines and platforms. They all cheated on emissions at the same time and in the same way.
No they aren't. They are owned by the same group. Saying they are the same company is like blaming someone in engineering for stupid decisions made by marketing simply because they work in the same building.
Sharing a corporate overload does not mean you share everything else.
Well I would say it would be more like praising the above and beyond effort that the engineers that work in the same building had collaborate with each other. Just because they went to the common room for lunch every day and bounced ideas off of each other.
I have worked in numerous cases where I was employed at one Corporation or LLC, while the Boss owns multiple and has them in the same building and office space. When I was consulting, I worked for a company that had two corporations one that did Busines
They don't. Your example of numerous cases doesn't make you an authority on another case. Pointing to Ford and Lincoln which do share a building doesn't mean anything when talking about another company.
Porsche and Audi are effectively two completely different countries with different headquarters in different states in Germany, different production plants, different engineering, different designs, different supply chains. It's not like the USA where you get into a Lincoln and see the words "FoMoCo" written
According to wikipedia ehre the list of all company owned by Volkswagen
Audi AG: Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A Porsche Bentley Motors Ltd Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG: Volkswagen AG Ducati Motor Holding S.p.A.: Jetta: MAN SE MAN Truck & Bus SE: Scania AB: SEAT, S.A.:. koda auto a.s.: TRATON SE The Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles assembly Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus (VWCO) Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles (VWCV Volkswagen Passenger Cars: Auto Union GmbH NSU GmbH,
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Porsche and Audi are the same company.
It's like saying "Ford is developing with Lincoln" or "Toyota is developing with Lexus"
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Well, no. They're very different companies, even though they're both owned by the same corporate entity.
Berkshire Hathaway owns See's Candies, Precision Cast Parts, and Duracell. No rational person would claim those are all the same company.
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They share motors, "platforms", parts, you name it!
You can up your delusion to 11, it's still just the lipstick and tuning that's different.
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They make different products for different markets.
Yes they share parts because, get this, they're both CARS, but Porsche and Audi are different enough that calling them "not the same company" is entirely accurate.
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This is extremely common in the vehicle market...
For instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
An engine developed by Ford and Peugeot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
A gearbox developed by Mercedes-Benz, but used in a huge variety of non-Mercedes vehicles.
Lots of parts are shared across vehicles across many different manufacturers.
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No other automakers share engines and platforms to the same extent as the various VAG companies. Period. Nor have they ever since the days when one company built chassis, another built bodies, etc. That is to say, before the proliferation of automakers as we know them.
All the VAG automakers cheated on diesel emissions at the same time and in the same way, which was obviously orchestrated from some high level.
VAG is one big automaker, conglomerated from other automakers, which pretends to be multiple automak
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Either you're full of complete shit or just being disingenuous. There's the whole-ass Japanese and Korean automakers where we have the automakers Lexus (which is Toyota), Infiniti (Nissan), Acura (Honda), and Genesis (Hyundai).
No, that's the point. I discuss that in another comment. Those are just other marques for the same automakers. It's the same as Ford/Lincoln. Actually though, the perfect parallel for how they actually operate today is probably Hyundai/Kia.
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Berkshire Hathaway owns See's Candies, Precision Cast Parts, and Duracell. No rational person would claim those are all the same company.
That does explain why I found the candy hard to chew and rather unpleasant tasting.
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"Porsche and Audi are the same company."
Well, no. They're very different companies
They're kind of different companies. They all do what the parent company tells them. They all share technology, engines and platforms. They all cheated on emissions at the same time and in the same way.
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Keep protesting those pipelines folks.
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Porsche and Audi are the same company.
But they have very separate office buildings and employees so it's correct to say that sometimes they work together and sometimes they don't.
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Porsche and Audi are the same company.
No they aren't. They are owned by the same group. Saying they are the same company is like blaming someone in engineering for stupid decisions made by marketing simply because they work in the same building.
Sharing a corporate overload does not mean you share everything else.
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Well I would say it would be more like praising the above and beyond effort that the engineers that work in the same building had collaborate with each other. Just because they went to the common room for lunch every day and bounced ideas off of each other.
I have worked in numerous cases where I was employed at one Corporation or LLC, while the Boss owns multiple and has them in the same building and office space. When I was consulting, I worked for a company that had two corporations one that did Busines
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that the engineers that work in the same building
They don't. Your example of numerous cases doesn't make you an authority on another case. Pointing to Ford and Lincoln which do share a building doesn't mean anything when talking about another company.
Porsche and Audi are effectively two completely different countries with different headquarters in different states in Germany, different production plants, different engineering, different designs, different supply chains. It's not like the USA where you get into a Lincoln and see the words "FoMoCo" written
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According to wikipedia ehre the list of all company owned by Volkswagen
Audi AG:
Automobili Lamborghini S.p.A
Porsche
Bentley Motors Ltd
Bugatti Automobiles S.A.S
Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG: Volkswagen AG
Ducati Motor Holding S.p.A.:
Jetta:
MAN SE
MAN Truck & Bus SE:
Scania AB:
SEAT, S.A.:.
koda auto a.s.:
TRATON SE
The Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles assembly
Volkswagen Caminhões e Ônibus (VWCO)
Volkswagen Commercial Vehicles (VWCV
Volkswagen Passenger Cars:
Auto Union GmbH
NSU GmbH,
Auto Union
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