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Quake First Person Shooters (Games)

Q3A Editor For Linux 39

Posted by Hemos from the loki-makes-the-release dept.
A number of folks, including LokiSoft, have pointed out that Loki has released a beta version of the tools needed to develop Q3A mods and levels under Linux. You can get the SDK here, as well as get more news and such from their Q3A page.
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  • If you'd care to read the release announcement, it says that it is a beta release, which may well imply that it isn't stable. Bugs should be reported with http://fenris.lokigames.com.

    Nicholas
  • You should let them know that they cannot get the Linux version of Quake from Activision, but that they should contact Loki directly: sales@lokigames.com

    Good luck!
  • I have been trying to buy Q3A for linux since last December. I refuse the windows version (I don't know if MS get a penny of it, but I want my vote to be for linux) and I really want to buy the game in a shop over a counter. If the only linux versions bought are online, my vote is only affecting the producers, I want the shops to take a bit more notice of linux (lets face it Q3 is a big release so it is certainly the sort of product they should be testing the waters with). After asking and asking and asking in shops from top to tail of Ireland without any success (and I would happily pre-pay to order it!) the following occurred:
    Dear HMV,

    Why do you not sell Quake ]I[ Arena for linux. You sell it for Windows and Mac (and all three versions left Id Software together). www.linuxemporium.co.uk [linuxemporium.co.uk] has stock so therefore it can be sold in the uk (I'm Irish by the way and was told in Belfast that I should try elsewhere, and the same in Dublin except they said it was on order for ever but that they had not received any from YOU). I can buy Quake III for Linux online, but I refuse, I want to a member of staff of a shop that sells computer games to hand me my copy and I will hand them my money. I will order it (as I have told your people), and I know of quite a few other people who would be tempted to buy it. Apart from anything else it comes in a pretty silver box!!!
    Please stop being so prejudiced and give linux a chance, you stock things like applixware which will never excite anyone, so why snub the open source revolution by not stocking the most exciting game of the last millenium in all its glory.
    And their reply!
    Thank you for your email regarding Linux games.

    I have forwarded your comments to our Games Buyer at Head Office for his comments.
    The reasons that we do not stock this format are that the range available at the present time is mostly Business software. As it is still a relatively new format, it is not supported by all the games companies, and we have therefore not been presented with the product. If the range grows and includes up to date titles that can be distributed in the UK, then we will look into stocking limited titles in specific stores.
    With regards to the Quake 3 game, our Games Buyer has spoken to Activision (the games publisher in the UK) and they have told him that it has not been officially sold in this country. It can be bought on the Internet and in selected import shops, as it is available to buy in America. Activision have no plans to sell this title officially through UK High Street retailers.
    I hope that I have helped answer your enquiry, and would like to thank you for your interest in HMV.
    Yours sincerely,
    Name Removed
    Customer Service
    I am not impressed!
  • I was only talking about the quake series. I've played many many hours of doom. :) (In my prime, I could finish episode 1 in a half hour, 100% kills, items and secrets.)

    Actually, the maps for quake did have a theme. All shared the basic stone textures.. but the first episode was mostly stone/midevial.. the second episode was more futuristic, etc...

    And, all of the quake2 levels had themes. (Each unit that is.) All of the jail levels, etc..

    If you want to get technical, I think the pentagram dates back to Catacombs Abyss. I'm exactly sure how id was related to that game, but I know they had something to do with it.

    As for the illegal in germany comment... I believe it was illegal to have any game which had blood. I think Syndicate was modified to make the blood black so they could say it was oil.


    -- Thrakkerzog
  • >Quake is nothing more than a tool ... secretly sponsered by the US military ... which children are encouraged to play since it is "cool".

    Aha! But therin lies the fatal flaw in the (otherwise excellent) conspiracy theory - it is established and irrefragable fact that adults[1] (thus including the military) cannot make things "cool" no matter how hard they try[2].

    [1] The guys at id Software are really just big kids.
    [2] Unless they work for Pokemon Marketing.

    And I would also like to point out that yes, "irrefragable" is an actual word, and I think it should be worth some novice-verbosity brownie points for using it (and using it correctly) in a discussion about Quake :-)
  • Thanks! It's nice to hear that. :)

    --Sam
  • Well, unless you believe John Carmack is the devil.

    No, but John Romero is.

  • Actually, there were no pentagrams (or pentacles) in quake 2. They were in quake, and are back in quake 3.

    The pentagram was actually at one time a good symbol, which witches (er.. wiccans) respected. The catholic church (obviously) did not like wiccans. During the spanish inquisition, this guy (i forget his name) Wrote this big long story about the wiccans, and how they were devil worshipers, and had sex and stuff with the men of the underworld. The pope believed it, and he set out with his troops to pillage them.

    Ever since that day, people think that witches are evil, and the pentagram (one of their symbols) is evil too. Thanks, catholic church.

    It is also called the Star of David, and is a Jewish symbol.

    All in all, they are just symbols. I don't particularily care if there is a goat head with a candle in it, or a pentacle in the game. It's just imagry. Concepts which may add an element of fear to the common man. It's not like playing the game will drive you to devil worship or anything. :)


    -- Thrakkerzog
  • But... did the Linux community pick it up? Not at all....

    Very weird. It's open since last year, so you all should have had some time to port it to Linux. After all, it's userinterface is in delphi but the rest is written in python.

    Get it: http://www.planetquake.com/quark [planetquake.com].

    --
  • [Pentagrams] were in quake, and are back in quake 3.

    The pentagrams stuff dates back to Doom. The story in Doom was that a project attempting to create teleporter gates accidentally opened a gate into Hell and demons came out and took over. Thus, the maps had Satanic stuff such as pentagrams, impaled victims, etc. (One map in Doom even had a Nazi symbol, but they removed that in a later patch so the game would not be illegal to have in Germany.)

    The maps for Quake were not designed with a coherent theme. Some of them were like Doom again, some were not.

  • I bought Q3A for Linux about 2 months ago, and probably 50% of the reason was so that I could play around with mods and level design. Since I have no Microsoft on my machine, I have been making do with the source release for windows, which will install and compile mods under wine - but this should make life much easier.
    This is the same kind of value and support which loki are quickly gaining a reputation for. They certainly deserve success, and your support (ie your money).

    Oh, and BTW - if you're still using glx instead of Xfree4.0 with DRI for Q3A.. SWITCH NOW. You'll be glad you did...

    Free Music [xoom.com]

  • Actually, the "right-side-up" pentagram [unh.edu] is Virgin Marys symbol according to a encyclopedia of symbols I like to browse. Needless to say it's been widely used by many religions, cults, homepagemakers [nucleus.com]... Many, especially newbie-zip-popping-satanists who don't have a clue, are using virgin Marys symbol instead of the overturned pentagram [www.lut.fi] wich is associated with the devil.

    The second major fscking fault a lot of people are making is beleieving that the Pentagram, a star with five (penta-five) points, is the Star of David. The Star of David [simplenet.com] has SIX points and is most easily drawn using two triangles... Please spread the word!..

    Thank you.
    //Frisco
    --
    "At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." -Goethe

  • Anybody made a Q3 map of columbine school yet ? It would
    be particularly interesting if the monsters were dressed
    up as teachers and principles and such, maybe even students with
    cellphones as weapons, bang bang!
  • I'll happily buy this in any store I can walk into (so if I go on holidays and see it thats fine by me). All I ask is that I buy it from a retail store (even if I have to pay more) in the hope that Quake IV will at least arrive in the shop when it is released and maybe Quake V will arrive at the same time as the Doze version.
    We can all buy online....but I like the idea of retailers for many products (and I think they especially suit potential unplanned purchases/fun things!). Besides if any store stocks a copy and sells it to me, they might stock another and someone else might buy it and become that much more exposed to linux, or simply buy it to have on a linux box even though they don't really play games. I want to see Linux marketed (yes I call shelf space in a store marketing when it comes to Linux in this part of the world) not ignored to see if it will die away and much the retailers lives just a tiny bit easier.
    BTW Quake is open source (well the engine), Quake III is not open source but I don't care because it probably will be and it was sent out by ID in Win, Mac and Linux together (even if the distributors rushed the Win one out quickly for christmas).
  • Anyone else notice the link to Loki's Q3A page actually points to a Slashdot article (Bill Joy on extinction of humans)?

  • Re:Link weirdness (Score:3)

    by Genom ( 3868 ) on Thursday May 25, 2000 @02:05AM (#1049518)
    I believe the correct link is http://quake3.lokigames.com [lokigames.com]
  • does this mean i could be chasing some penguin and find myself staring at a wall plastered in porn? ;-)


  • What would be cool if CmdrTaco and them released the blue prints to the slash compound, that would be a cool little death match.

    That or the CIA national headquaters, running around fragging people in there, but uh then again it probably isn't the easiest place to get blue prints for. And if you do have blue prints for the CIA national headquaters you would probably suddenly "disappear" if you posted them on slashdot.

    The white house, now that would be cool, fragging people in the lincoln room.

    I used to make maps in Quake 1 of my house, school and place of work, but I had a couple people freak on me when I released the map to my school, they said it was unhealthy.

  • At the office, we've been building a map of the building, and we've been building skins of particular people to slap atop bots.

    Sense any dissatisfaction? You should.

  • And when was your penis removed again?
  • You know, Loki's a gaming company I can really respect. I've bought Heroes III and Railroad Tycoon II from them, and am planning on getting Heavy Gear II as well. I've never had a problem with their games.
    Even better, in my opinion, is their attitude towards open source. While they can't open-source the games they port (for obvious reasons), they've opensourced the library they use to develop their games (SDL), the bug-tracking system (Fenris), and their setup installer. Those who develop programs with SDL and use the mailing list or newsgroup can easily get in touch with Sam Lantiga, the man who started SDL development.
    Here's to hoping that other game companies follow Loki's example. It's nice having a corporation that you can actually respect.


  • You know my freind, you should eat so much acid when reading slashdot, also sleeping once a week might also do you some good.

    Let me ask you this.

    You know in Central Park (New York, NY) in the winter time when the pond freezes over, where do the ducks go, do they fly away by themselves or does someone come and take them away, to maybe a zoo or something for the winter?

    Lets think about this, this (Quake 3) is the creatation of ID Software, a third party company that has no ties to the United States Goverment, other than them (ID Software) pays their taxes every year, that is the only ties they have. So why would ID Software want to brain wash our kids for the United States Goverment?

    Second, if the goverment really wanted "Super killers" why the hell couldn't the CIA go down to the local Mental Ward, take a few psycho path and serail killers, people already desenative to death and killing and start training them in miltary combat?

    You know how much the United States Goverment would have to spend to do a full fledge "brain wash" campain on all the youth of this country? That would be tons of taxes dollars WASTED down the drain ... ... ... ... ... ... ok so you may have a point.

  • This is great. Q3Radient was one of the main reasons I have to dual boot Windows. Needless to say, I'm extatic if this thing works. Hmm... Windows' days are numbered :) I use Linux for about 99% of everything I do, and I'm working really hard to eliminate that last 1%. This just helped enormousely. Gotta love Loki :)

    Here's my [radiks.net] DeCSS mirror. Where's yours?

  • Now I can actually play the same game that my Win* friends play.

    For me, one of the most attractive things about the quake type games is the ability to create your own world to play in. I really have been feeling cheated by the linux version until now.

    With the Linux patches now even with the Windows versions, and an editing tool, the games are now on par, which is a good thing!

    Tonight I shall get a bit creative before I get mediaeval with Q3A


  • Both Quake and Quake2 had pentagrams in them. Are pentagrams satanic or witcha? Also goats heads and gothic looking stuff. If a pentagram is a satanic symbol, but Quake and Quake2 had satanic symbols in them. It won't really surpise me if Quake3 had some to (haven't played it yet).

    On the other side though, I do remember crosses, which are a christain (and jewish??) symbols.

  • Re:Quake? A tool for dehumanizing children (Score:2)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I frown upon you, friend.

    As both a preacher of the Christian Religion, and a father, I see little harm in letting my children play these games. I believe it's every person's right to have the knowledge of how to kill their fellow man, to increase one's knowledge in the subject is to learn how to prevent future tradegies. I often sit down with my son after long sessions of Q3A and ask him "Son, how many people did you frag? You know that while you may have railed their assess off, they are still living on the other end. The LORD smiles upon you for destroying them to bloody giblets within the context of a video game, and not in real life."

    Yes, the LORD truely does smile upon us, the digital killers, for we abstain from real life killing.

  • Dunno about QIII but the satanic images date way back from the DOOM days. Scattered pentagrams, demons and the ocassional overturned cross. Actualy I rather see it as pro-christian propaganda since all that satanic stuff is in the enemy base(s)... Kindof like the nazi symbols all over Wolfenstein...

    Thank you. //Frisco
    --
    "At the end of the journey, all men think that their youth was Arcadia..." -Goethe

  • What's wrong with that? My high school make a great deathmatch map. Smoke filled bathrooms, strange disections going on in the classrooms, working elevator (that went to the unseen 4th floor and the roof)

    Awful as it is, the libiary was one of the best places. Porn displayed on the workstations, and bookshelves at just the right hight for walking behind. (Watch out, there are gaps in the books...) A few overturned tables where there weren't bookshelves.

    And the lunchroom brought new meaning to "beware of food."

    Of corse, the evil bots had to spawn from the administrative offices. =)
  • I've been wishing for a Linux version of Radiant for some time now. I've felt like a cheater whenever I'd reboot into Winblows just to create game maps. Plus, having to reboot at least twice a session wasn't healthy for my creative energies. Now, I have to wonder if they'll fix some of the bugs in Radiant, or if it's just going to be a straight port... Of course, to really impress me, they need to port Lightwave and let me do map development in it. Ohh yeah.
  • A buddy of mine did something similar by simply renaming bots (this is in UT) to the names of their *favorite* customers. While not as cool as skins, certainly satisfying.
  • I have heard that there are Satanic images included in this game. I have not been able to run it myself, so I would appreciate it if someone would tell me if this is true or not. If there are no Satanic images, what may have prompted this rumor?
  • whoops about the star of david thing. I don't know what I was thinking!!


    -- Thrakkerzog
  • Anyone else having the program segfault on startup?

    Fresh install on a unstable debian box with E+gnome etc and segfault on startup :(

    TIA for any thoughts.
  • And there's also Quest (which I maintain). It is GPL'ed, written in C and C++ and has been available (with full Quake 3 support) for both DOS/Windows and Linux-i386-(x11/svgalib) for a while now. I even tried to submit an announcement to Slashdot when the latest version was released (first version that supported Quake 3), but I guess it was rejected.

    Anyway, you can get it at http://quest-ed.sourceforge.net/ [sourceforge.net] or http://sourceforge.net/project/?group _id=3684 [sourceforge.net] (or http://www.frag.com/quest/ [frag.com] , but that one's down currently).

    - Alexander Malmberg

  • Remind me to buy more stuff from Loki, they truly kick ass. Plus they've probably done more to increase the Linux userbase than Redhat.
  • sure enough there's a plethora of pentagrams and horny beasties. no nekkid chicks though :(
  • I managed to get a computer in Computer Solutions (formerly Software Warehouse).. The tin box edition.

    Timbo.
  • i once did a map of my school. it was good fun. not 'cause we wanted to shoot students or anything, just 'cause it was a pretty good layout for a DM map we thought. woulda been cool for CTF as well. that was for quake though, not q3. also did a map of my house once. it was pretty fun. maps of existing structures really are pretty damn cool...
    --
    DeCSS source code! [metastudios.com]
    you must amputate to email me.

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