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The Future Is The Past: New Sega CD Games 35

Posted by timothy from the i-don't-want-to-go-on-the-cart dept.
BenT of PlanetDreamcast writes: "The Sega CD is very, very dead. Or... is it? Michael Thomasson of Good Deal Games thinks the old add-on might have some life in it yet, and he's backing up such claims with some action: his company has released two brand new, never-before-seen Sega CD games! We talked with Michael about these games and a whole lot more, and it makes for an interesting look at the fringe of the console game publishing world." Fringe, indeed. Can someone please make some new games for my Atari 2600, too? ;)
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  • I always liked the FMV type of game, where movies were made with real actors, and you were able to sort of interact with an environment that looked real. I would love to see some of those types of games the SegaCD had released on other platforms

    Sure, playing a game rendered in real time is nice, but with the ps2, and it's ability to read dvd, imagine the quality and ammount of FMV they could put on there, as well as what they could do with the real time rendered stuff.

    How about an FMV Resident Evil Game?
  • That link is ceartinly alot of info about the segacd .. but I stand by my convition that the palette was indequate, adn the load times were unacceptable :) ... note I didn't say there werent some fun games just the same
  • Having played Night Trap, Sewer Shark and a few other imminently forgettable Sega CD games... christ. Let it go already, people. There's a reason that the CD stunk like a dead fish and flopped like a live one. Sorry if I don't wax nostalgiac for an overpriced, remotely interactive, grainy movie/game playing device. They can look forward to taking a bath on their "$100K" investment (are they serious?). Their money would have been better thro^H^H^H^H invested in an exciting new UNTERNET start-up or something. Honestly. Have you ever played it? It's a good system if you want to catch up on sleep during the loads. And you want grainy? Brother, you got it! Do I need to remind anyone else how much the Saturn hurt?
  • Edtris [netway.com], a Tetris game for the Atari2600 was published in 1995 by homebrew 2600 hacker Ed Federmeyer.

    This year, Video Simon [netway.com] was released. There are many more - these are just homebrew games I found on a very brief net search!

    People are still producing Intellivision games, some awesome games for the Atari Lynx handheld and Atari Jaguar [atari.net], and more!

    Just dig a little, and ye shall find!
  • They have never made a better system than Intellivision. Don't you remember Night Stalker? Or Astrosmash? How about Imagic's MicroSurgeon? O' the good ole days!
  • I know this guy - strange dude, but cool (hey, the way I figure it, anybody who does this kind of thing for a hobby has to have some kind of worthy mind).

    Worldcom [worldcom.com] - Generation Duh!

  • You have insulted Dragon's Lair! Now you must die! >_<#

    Seriously, the original arcade Dragon's Lair and Space Ace (and that weird Japanese Don Quixote game) were probably the best-looking games of their time. They may be primitive by today's standards (possibly even extremely so), but they were equally as innovative at the time (read: optical disc (laserdisc) reader in an arcade cabinet).

    And the hot sister in Space Ace...damn.

    < tofuhead >

  • "CD consoles will live for a lot longer than many others (ie cartridge or dvd) cause they are so easily pirated."

    Not necessarily. Do a brief 'net search for Atari 2600 ROMs and you'll find a ZIP file with over 800 games in it. That plus emulator equals serious longevity for the games.
  • Actually, that is why CD consoles will die quicker. Manufactuers make money off royalties from software running on the console, if there is greater piracy of the game, companies like Sony and Nintendo (Sega have allready quit the hardware business, they've become an Xbox partner) will pull out of the market. There is no money in making the consoles themselves, only in licensing games and getting royalties off them,
  • Sega are about to release a bundle of old Genesis/MD games for the Dreamcast. I guess there may be a way to run these new Sega CD ones on the DC, unless people still have a Sega CD gathering dust somewhere.
  • CD consoles will live for a lot longer than many others (ie cartridge or dvd) cause they are so easily pirated. my $.02
  • It's not for us to declare the sega console as dead- a bit of smart advertising and promotion could make it come alive in a big way. The only reason playstation is doing so well, and the playstation2 is in such high demand is the vast advertising campaigns Sony has run for them. If sega did the same, they might well mind a renewed market for them.

  • Now *that* would be a killer product. A nice, relatively-cheap, "Make-Your-Own" Atari 2600 Game kit. Have it come with step-by-step instructions for recreating some game that doesn't mind publishing its source.

    Then we need similar kits for the TI-99 and the original Nintendo.

  • Damn! My sega Console with the CD add-onn was the victim of a garage sale!

  • FMV Isn't A Game! (Score:3)

    by BRock97 ( 17460 ) on Thursday December 28, 2000 @05:57AM (#539495) Homepage
    Sorry, but both those games are full motion video games. Please, those don't even count as a game! Watch video, press button, watch video, move left, watch video, press button. You win. I was hoping for something a little more impressive....

    Bryan R.
  • It's not for us to declare the sega console as dead- a bit of smart advertising and promotion could make it come alive in a big way.

    Well, if you've misunderstood the story, others may have too -- so I'll correct you... Sega's current machine is the Dreamcast. It's doing OK: Playstation 2 will eventually dominate IMHO because of the vast marketing you refer to (although the media seems to be falling over itself to provide Sony with free publicity. Positive feedback, perhaps). However, the story refers to new games released for the SegaCD -- the CD drive addon to the Megadrive / Genesis (the machine had a different name in Japan/Europe and the States) -- a 16 bit machine which truly is a dead platform.

    New Dreamcast games come out pretty much every week; that wouldn't be a new story, even on Slashdot! (although, it seems if Sony so much as sneeze, Rob's on the story...)
    --

  • Atari 2600 Development Software (Score:3)

    by Monte ( 48723 ) on Thursday December 28, 2000 @04:08AM (#539497)
    Can someone please make some new games for my Atari 2600, too? ;)

    Yes, they can. Development software is here [atarihq.com].

    Alternatively, type "Atari 2600 VCS Development" into Google. Ah, bless that Web!
  • I picked up one of those for $69(CDN) last year, an incredible deal in my opinion. Came with Sonic CD, and 5 other games.
  • Did anyone besides myself ever buy the Sega Genesis "CDX" console way back when? It was basically a Genesis + SegaCD packed into a small package that resembled, according to one reviewer, a "portable CD player on steroids". It was actually an almost servable portable CD player too.

    Just waxing nostalgic here, but I thought they were pretty cool when they came out many years ago.

  • VCS programming (Score:3)

    by mirko ( 198274 ) on Thursday December 28, 2000 @04:41AM (#539500) Journal
    French Editor ACBM [acbm.com] has issued a long serie of programming articles about VCS programming in the magazine Les Puces Informatiques [acbm.com].
    It seems its programming is quite easy and you can quickly enough get good results such as your own version of Space Invaders that you'll run on top of an emulator.
    So the answer is do-it-yourself.
    --
  • ...but didn't the Sega CD flop, even when it was new?

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  • some people do not like to give up the old games. They really enjoyed them. So you know the are people out there who still have their sega CD and if DC is able to ply the games then there is a market. Even if the games become more of a hobby then its still all goods

  • More New 2600 Games (Score:2)

    by Anonymous Coward
    My favorite hangout for oldskool gaming is http://www.classicgaming.com [classicgaming.com]. In addition to a weekly mailbag and game of the week, they have many decent hosted sites devoted to the old games and consoles. They also had a news item a while back about another new 2600 game called Thrust.
  • I own a 2 sega cds, a sega CDX and about 4 more segas ... and I can tell ya, the whole sega cd concept was flawed:

    First of all, the SegaCD had to duplicate most of the hardware of the Sega (it has its own processor, etc etc ) making it very expensive ... but It still used the sega's video DAC, which was just horrible -- it allows 64 colors, which isn't enough for video -- and thats assuming the game is using no colors for itself ... In reality you get more like 48 colors and it looks AWFULL.

    Second of all, the thing is dang slow! Even in games which don't use real time video the access times are just awfull ... In role playing adventure Games like Monkey Island every time you stepped in a new room, you had to wait, 2, 3, 5 seconds for it to load...I will give them props for one thing -- all of my segacds play copied cds with no problems.

    Lastly, the games on the SegaCD just sucked which is ultimatley the test of any system ... There were a few neat games: Sol Feace, Monkey Island, and a couple I can't recall ... none of these games used the digital video facilities though -- which meant they were basically cartridge games with audiocd soundtracks and people knew that ... The few good games were completley overwhelmed (or underwhelmed?) though by god awfull games like the power rangers game, corpse killer (shoot wiggling flying zombie corpses), farenheit (walk around in a building on fire waiting for the next clip to load), earthworm him (cool but exactly the same as the cartdridge version), double switch (sit around and watch badly acted video clips with cory haim, although thomas dolby did the soundtrack for this one), Microosim (fly around blood vessels shooting ships) ...

    The sega cd was just a 1 trick pony, and the trick sucked :)

  • After the Pitfall article last week -- and now this....The cost of rediscovering my youth is now going to cost me my job and wife....(not to mention lots of cramps in my joystick hand...) Oh well back to Pitfall...hmmm...Pole Position after lunch maybe.
  • For downloadable homebrews (since the first request was for new games for the author's Atari 2600): http://www.io.com/~nickb/atari3.htm

    Try Oystron and This Planet sucks, two of my favorite new games. Emus are on-site
    as well.

    Nick Bensema's site (follow link above) also has programming tutorials (many that he wrote) and tools to program the Atari on everything from your DOS box to a Commodore 64 (no lie) -- except for a Mac. For that you have to go to my site...

    http://homepage.mac.com/mactari/mactari/mact.htm l
    (yes, the URL is pretty repetitive)

    This page has tools for Classic Mac OS. I hope to get around to compiling the tools under Darwin soon.

    To _talk_ about Atari programming, head over to www.biglist.com and sign up for the "Stella" listserv. Low but interesting traffic on our favorite classic console!

    Ruffin Bailey
    "This may be the fault of the interpreter, in which case HE is the hippopotamus."
  • I'm sorry, but as a huuuge Sega fan I can't possibly let this one go without some sort of defense for such an excellent console. Go to the following URL; take a few minutes out to read it and you'll soon agree that this has to be the most underrated console in existance:

    www.atani-software.net/segabase/SegaBase-SegaCD.ht ml [atani-software.net]

    Respects to the emulation sage - Sam Pettus.

    You haven't played Lunar, Snatcher, Sonic CD, or the utterly fantastic Popful Mail - have you? If you had, I'm sure you'd think differently about this system. I just wish there were more out there developing for it - even for fun. I've spent hundreds of hours playing many Mega CD games, and I really believe they were hours very well spent (as well as the above Working Designs releases, Dungeon Explorer and Dune - not by WD - are also worth checking out).

    Remember, this system was only released in 1993! Such complaints about the supposedly "awful" visual quality just doesn't stand up if you consider when Sega were releasing this console. I agree it was overpriced, but at least it could perform! (can't say the same for the 3DO or Sega's own underpowered and again, overpriced 32X)

    chis:matrik | ambience&idm
    www.matrik.ndo.co.uk [ndo.co.uk]
  • Weren't people saying the same thing about Quake 3 for Linux?
    D

    Mad Scientists with too much time on thier hands
  • Check this out:
    Wing Nuts is by far the better of the three products, originally designed for release by Rocket Science Games.

    I need to stress again, that this venture is a real risk for a small company like GDG, so support on these initial releases is absolutely CRITICAL for future releases to come to light. If the gaming community supports us, we will continue to support them.

    Between the lines it says, Please subsidize our crappy games so we can use that money to release the good game we know you really want. Sounds like shareware on crack to me. Emploring ppl to buy a product they released for the sake of releasing it doesn't inspire any philanthropic emotions.
    "Me Ted"

  • Atari2600, Vectrex, Coleco....etc.etc. YES! (Score:3)

    by curtisk ( 191737 ) on Thursday December 28, 2000 @04:26AM (#539510) Homepage Journal
    People have been making new games for old systems for quite a few years now...or ports of exsisting games (ex. Tetris on 2600) a good number of which are made into limited production carts, which naturally, some collectors go nuts over :)
    There's a guy in New Jersey that creates new titles for Vectrex, Coleco and Oddyssey2 and is a pretty good guy all around.....you can check out his stuff at http://www.classicgamecreations.com/
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  • Just wanted to let you guys know that over at RadioShack you can order Atari 2600 games. I ordered one once, and it came brand new, still shrinkwrapped. The full catalog isn't out there, but a lot of them are.

    :)
  • I've played both Bug Blasters and Star Stike and they're more in line with games like Novastorm or Microcosim where you have lot's of shooter action along a rail path.
  • Anyone else remember "Ladybug" or "Venture"?

    Sure, Ladybug was a ripoff of Pacman, but it was sure a helluva lot more challenging!

    Pining for the days of the wheel-knob controller...

  • You can also purchase cartridges of new games from Hozer Video [netway.com]. Definately check out the brilliant Thrust [netway.com].

    Of course, "real" computers need versions of Minesweeper [netway.com] and Tetris [netway.com]. And all modern gaming systems have first person 3D games [netway.com].

    If you're armed with an emulator [ncsu.edu] you can download ROMs [virtualave.net] of various games, classic and new.

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