GameCube-Powered Webserver 277
Daniel Kolph writes "The GameCube Linux Project has just released, what they call the GameCube Linux Alpha
This is an 1 MB busybox-based Linux system that contains screen output, network code, a telnet server and a webserver. They also provide a kernel patch. (Screenshots/Download)"
Once it's slashdotted (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Once it's slashdotted (Score:2, Informative)
Screenshots Bigger than Download :-) (Score:2)
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May as well get it out of the way... (Score:5, Funny)
Mario can't handle the load of the pipe, we may need another plumber.
I can't think of any more lame jokes
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:2)
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:2)
I'm lost.
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:2)
Re:May as well get it out of the way... (Score:5, Funny)
I can't wait... (Score:2, Interesting)
Soooo... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Soooo... (Score:3, Funny)
What happens when you're done making Linux boot?
Re:Soooo... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Soooo... (Score:2)
Just a thought.
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Oh wait...
Tom's Hardware benchmark? (Score:5, Funny)
None of the above when $100 buys you a PIV mobo (Score:5, Insightful)
In fact, none of the PS2, Gamecube, or XBox have NEARLY enough RAM to even fathom running a database, let alone much else (since you can't even cache very much from fixed media, for example).
Duh.
It might make a good kerberos or DNS server or something that needs to be "hardened" and always up, with a small in-memory image. But that's probably only going to fly in a college dorm at a Tech University.
Re:Tom's Hardware benchmark? (Score:5, Funny)
I want linux on my N64, full of good MIPS linux flavor, without the Xbox aftertaste.
Re:Tom's Hardware benchmark? (Score:2)
but you can have way more ram and an hd, and when you get bored of linux you can always try netbsd or irix.
Gamecube Linux Alpha? (Score:3, Funny)
A first for everything? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:A first for everything? (Score:3, Interesting)
Unlikely, since there have been Linux and Apache ports to the PS2 and DreamCast for some time. They probably slashdotted an XBOX as well.
Now if they get an atari 2600.. I'd be impressed.
Re:A first for everything? (Score:2)
Re:A first for everything? (Score:2, Informative)
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Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
New use for old kit (Score:3, Funny)
"No problem, son. Give it to me, and I'll turn it into neat server"
So, after things like C64 servers, and various other Linux on console builds, what's the next challenge? A Sinclair ZX81 (Timex 1000) server?
Re:New use for old kit (Score:3, Funny)
"Dad, I'm tired of my BMW. It's not cutting edge any more!"
"No problem, son. Park it out back, and I'll turn it into a neat Beowulf cluster."
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Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:5, Insightful)
[Insert witty Beowulf cluster joke here]
Seriously though, why would someone do this? It's not going to be very powerful, there's no way in hades it would survive a
obvious (Score:5, Insightful)
~Berj
Re:obvious (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2)
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2, Insightful)
Because they can.
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2)
But you've answered your own question! =) If you build it, they will hack.
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2)
But yeah, it's mostly the geek factor. And they already did the Xbox.
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2)
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:3, Insightful)
say it costs 300 dollars for them to manufacture and they sell them at 200 dollars and you buy one - they make a loss of 100 dollars.
now say it costs 300 dollars for them to manufacture and they sell them at 200 dollars and you DON'T buy one, then they have lost all 300 dollars
Re:Let me be the first to say. . . (Score:2)
Impressive. Very impressive. (Score:2, Interesting)
you know you are hardcore slashdot... (Score:2)
On a more serious note (the site is down), do you install from a mini-DVD, or from a memory card? Does it involve starting and stopping a certain game like the Xbox?
Re:you know you are hardcore slashdot... (Score:2)
through a loading program on that runs on pc that exploits a flaw in the phantasy star onlines update code.
or so, I don't own a gc so I haven't digged into it that much.
Re:you know you are hardcore slashdot... (Score:5, Informative)
Runnings Homebrew Code
Can I just burn a 8 cm CD/DVD and use it in the GameCube?
No. The GameCube reads no CDs/DVDs. There is no way to produce a GameCube compatible optical media using a CD/DVD burner.
So do I run homebrew code on the GameCube?
The PSOload [gcdev.com] method is the only way.
What do I need in order to run homebrew code?
A GameCube, any version of Phantasy Star Online, a Broadband Adapter, a memory card, and PSOload [gcdev.com].
Do I need a modchip?
There are no modchips.
Will any of this disable the ability to play games?
No.
3 HelpingRe:you know you are hardcore slashdot... (Score:2, Funny)
There are no modchips.
That was such a "there is no spoon" moment... =D
Image mirror (Score:5, Informative)
Sad... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Look... (Score:5, Funny)
why telnet? (Score:3, Insightful)
Why can't they implement ssh from start up of their project?
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You need telnet way before ssh (Score:2)
ssh is better for stable environment, telnet is better for the research lab.
Right tool for the job (Score:2)
Re:Right tool for the job (Score:2)
I was talking about the new system, where just few applications exist besides the kernel and the shell.
Remember? The original post was about Linux on the GameCube, the operating environment that just born and their developers did not have enough time to port all 2,000 linux applications their.
Eventually, after porting the rest of linux applications their, they will use right tool for the right job. But now the
How hackable is the hardware? (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm probably not very interested in this unless I can hack the hardware a bit: add a hard drive, add a second network port, etc.
A GameCube would make a sweet firewall/router box if you could get two network ports on it and Linux. The price would be right too.
Note that the optical drive is fairly useless: you cannot burn a disk that will work in a GameCube, not with a conventional CD burner.
steveha
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
A GameCube would make a sweet firewall/router box if you could get two network ports on it and Linux. The price would be right too.
Note that if you're just a home user (and since you are seriously considering using a gaming console as a Firewall / router, I assume you are), then you're Internet pipe is likely limited to 1-5 Mbps down maximum, and a fraction of that up. In this case the gamecube's single 10/100 NIC would do just fine for a firewall. Just make a virtual ethernet port (ifconfig eth0:0 etc) a
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:3, Interesting)
If you use a virtual interface you may not be able to run DHCP if the ISP does as well and have it work well. Running a PPPoE session might work ok if you trust your ISP.
Again I should stress natting does not make a firewall. You need a lot of proxy applications that can filter at higher levels than IPs ports and
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:3, Interesting)
I had in mind a computer with two network ports, which looks at each IP packet and decides whether to let that packet in to the home network. No packet would go on the network without being actively copied from the in port to the home network port.
about calling a linux box a router it can route yes it's ok at it yes but it's latency is horid.
I have a Netgear home firewall/router, and its latency seems fine for my home use. I would lik
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
Trust me I have done this myself before, it works fine. Don't let the lack of a second card stop you. It's fine for home use.
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
Again I should stress natting does not make a firewall. You need a lot of proxy applications that can filter at higher levels than IPs ports and who initiated a connection.
Er, who saind anything about NAT?
To Linux, a virtual interface *IS* a real interface. You can do all the exact same stuff with IPTables just as if you had two seprate ethernet cards.
Your above comments lead me to believe you didn't know what I meant by virtual interface.
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
You can't. The expansion bays on the bottom of the gamecube are all different sizes/shapes. A given expansion device can only go in one particular slot, so you can't have two of them on one gamecube.
Also, one of the three ports is not the same type of interface as the others. I think there are two labeled 'serial' and another labeled 'hi-speed'.
One-armed Firewalls / Routers (Score:2)
OK, a one-armed firewall isn't going to protect you against everything, but there are configurations where it works just fine. For instance, if it's bright enough to handle two different IP addresses on the same port, you can have it look like 1.1.1.1 to your cable modem and 10.1.1.1 to your PC, and do NAT or proxies or whatever. But even if it can only support one address, you can still use it for proxies - its address is 10.2.2
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
Seems like a dumb use for it practically speaking.
Wouldn't one of those $30-$40 Linksys/D-Link/Netgear router/switches be a better solution? And you wouldn't even have to hack it to make it work.
Though doing it "just for fun" is certainly understandable.
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
As long as they work the way you want, sure. But you can't really customize the way they work. And I consider my firewall to be an important thing, and I would like to build it from source so I can be sure I know what it does. (*cough* Belkin *cough*)
steveha
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
OK
I bought a GameCube the day they came out and mine died on me with *very* *minim
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
You may have a point about the reliability. But keep in mind that a Linux-based firewall will just sit there, with Linux and your firewall rules and everything loaded in RAM. And the worst stress on a system is turning it on and off, and a firewall will be on 24/7. And the firewall wouldn't be using the graphics processor at all, so another whole source of problems would be out of t
What about SD cards? (Score:2)
One of the neatest things about GC is that it's got enough smarts burned into it to run without any discs or cards
Re:How hackable is the hardware? (Score:2)
Otter in a box! (Score:2)
Enhydra [enhydra.org], an Open Source Java-based Application Server, was recently installed [sourceforge.net] on an XBox using Xebian [xbox-linux.org].
I had submitted a story about this the day it happened (a few days ago) but for some reason it didn't make the cut. I guess underpowered web servers are sexier than underpowered application servers..(?)
Odyssey 2 (Score:2)
Bookmark! (Score:5, Funny)
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Nathan
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Cool and Useless... (Score:2)
It makes sense? :) (Score:5, Funny)
Manta
just wait.. (Score:2)
Rus
I don't get it... (Score:3, Funny)
you think thats good (Score:2)
ha-hah!
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Adopting a numbering system (Score:4, Funny)
Me: But I already have GameCube Linux Alpha 2 Turbo
Salesman: Yes, but you don't have GameCube Linux Alpha 2 Turbo Championship Edition.
Me: WHERE DO I SIGN?!
I posted this message from a GameCube... (Score:5, Funny)
Better than Xbox as a low power server (Score:5, Interesting)
The Xbox is 4-5 times more power-hungry than a Gamecube, but you'd never get anywhere near 4x performance. For a personal server (even media player) the Gamecube's CPU, GPU and memory performance are great, good enough for most tasks and it has component video and digital audio output capabilities (though Nintendo has never released the digital audio adapter, so the only way to do it is using the Panasonic Q and the component cables are not very easy to get).
The machine is also very cheap at $100 and small enough to fit anywhere, at least better than the Xbox. It may not have a Hard Drive but there's an SD Card adaptor that could be used for mass storage. I really prefer to have a smaller, low power alternative. You just can't get a 40W machine with such strong capabilities for that price anywhere else.
The only thing missing is a way to automatically boot into Linux, as you still need the PSOLoad trick. It would be wonderful if some company like Codejunkies released a boot disk like the Freeloader. I'd hate to be forced into manually loading PSO every time there's a power outage.
Re:Neat (Score:2, Informative)
The Warppipe project is a PC application and creates a virtual LAN among Gamecubes over the Internet.
This is Linux on the Gamecube. As in running directly on the Gamecube. You won't be able to play any Gamecube games in this mode.
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Re:The real question is Why? (Score:2)
Re:zzzzzz (Score:2)
Two words: blue sparks.
Re:What next? (Score:2)
Been done. [ibm.com] (Well, just about.)
Schwab
Re:Gamecube??? Big Deal... (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Donald Duck (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Liberal ideas are subtle,nuanced and sophistica (Score:2)
Yes, I do listen to them, Boortz, Hannity, and O'Reilly to name a few. Do they manipulate stories, heck no. I guess what differs from me is that when I hear something that interests me, I immediately try to find other reports to verify it. 9 times out of 10, the above talk radio hosts are right.
Take this for example, I don't know WHO to believe. In Saturday's paper there was a report from the AP about the Hajj pilgrimage in Mecca, Saudia Arabi