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Zelda - The Four Swords Adventures Rated 56

Posted by CowboyNeal from the up-and-coming-addictions dept.
An anonymous reader writes "The GameCube has had a drought of games since the start of spring. Many gamers are eagerly awaiting 'the next big game,' The Legend of Zelda: The Four Swords Adventures. The game, which is set to be released this June, has already been released in Japan and a full review from the SiliconEra website. According to the piece, the game is 'easy to learn, innovative and can appeal to people of all ages', but the reviewer also states that the US release of the Four Swords will be minus some Japanese features, as it will be missing the Navi Trackers mini game."
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Zelda - The Four Swords Adventures Rated

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  • Navi Trackers (Score:5, Informative)

    by Blackwulf ( 34848 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @01:33PM (#8871704) Homepage
    Navi Trackers was the main reason I was looking forward to this game. I played Tetra's Trackers at E3 last year (with English voices, no less) and it was a LOT of fun. I felt it would have made a great minigame. (Most people were upset at the "gimmick" of using 4 GBA's to control the action, but once I got past that line of thinking, I actually enjoyed myself immensly.)

    And I guess since it's so language heavy, it wouldn't be a good import. Ugh.

    At least Four Swords was just as fun.

    • Re:Navi Trackers (Score:5, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 15, 2004 @02:07PM (#8872181)
      The main reason it's not in there is because of the American public generally not liking it as much as the rest- if you really want it in the US version, then try getting as many people calling Nintendo asking about it.

      Hey, it worked for the Wind Waker bonus disc.

  • Four GBAs to play? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by b0r0din ( 304712 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @01:41PM (#8871807)
    I like connectivity to a GBA. But what's with these games like Zelda and PacMan that require like 4 GBAs to unlock all the features of gameplay? Last I checked, the new SPs were 100 bucks. So in order to play this game in multiplayer mode, say, with one other, you'd need to buy the game (40 bucks) two GBAs (200 bucks) PLUS of course the GameCube. Why not make the game for the GameCube w/controllers, so you can use your damn GameCube controller. Why all this crap with GBAs. I think GBA connectivity could be useful, but not like this. This is a retarded marketing ploy to get people to buy 4 GBAs for one game.
    • "This is a retarded marketing ploy to get people to buy 4 GBAs for one game."

      You answered your own question. I couldn't see any other reason for this either besides to gain profits. Though it does seem a bit extreme, they got bills to pay too, right?
    • when i was playing pacman last night, it only required one gba for 4 players.
      • On the PacMan side, my mistake. That seems like a fair enough model. One GBA for one Gamecube. I still disagree that it's a good idea to require four GBAs to play all four Links, though. All fanboys aside, assuming you are an adult and have two or three kids that play the GameCube, you might buy a game that is then going to force you to buy 2 or 3 more GBAs just for everyone to enjoy. I understand the cunning nature of the marketing, I just think it's rediculous to require this when you've got a goddamn Gam
        • Part of the premise of the game is that your character can go wandering on his own. How exactly are you going to replicate that with a Gamecube controller? Split the screen up as soon as someone walks off screen. That would be disorienting and it would also allow the other players to see what you were doing.

          Your argument is, as I see it, akin to saying, "Man, why can't I play DDR without the dance pad?" except taken to a more extreme level. Nintendo introduced a game where GBA connectivity offered a differe

        • I understand where you're coming from, I really do. But I honestly fail to see the problem. I have a GC, but no GBA. So, I play other games instead, and remember this one in case I want to make that investment some day. I see it as no different than an XBox or PS2 game that I just can't play without a substantial investment. Oh well.
    • PacMan only requires 1 GBA, and so is not as expensive as many of the other connectivity games.

      The connectivity ploy is an attempt by Nintendo to give their console something unique that will drive people to GameCubes. There are easily 4 times more GBAs out there than GameCubes, so in theory, their idea could work.

      Honestly, if you think about the targets for this game (Who has 3 friends with GameBoys? Kids and hardcore nintendo fanboys.), it seems like this is not the sort of game that will be accessible
      • If you're suffering... you may already be a hardcore nintendo fanboy.

        Spend the cash. Come join us.
      • Man, everyone who plays games on the go has a Gameboy. Maybe you thought the GBA wasn't worth while or something, but the thing is, the SP is pretty dang worthit, cheap, and has a good selection of games. Plus it plays my old crap from a decade ago.

        It's certainly a lot better thought out than the VMU games on the Dreamcast.

    • Re:Four GBAs to play? (Score:5, Informative)

      by DavidLeblond ( 267211 ) <meNO@SPAMdavidleblond.com> on Thursday April 15, 2004 @01:54PM (#8871989) Homepage
      Four players, four gameboys... that suggests that each player has his/her own gameboy... makes sense to me.

    • Re:Four GBAs to play? (Score:1, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward
      Thats the dumest thing I ever heard. First off you are way more likley to find some one who owns a GBA then someone who owns a Gamecube. Secondly YOU only need to have ONE GBA. Your friend (You have friends rights?) has to have his own. Third if you dont have a GBA and your friends dont why the fuck are you buying a game that requries them? Obligatory link: http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php3?date=2003-08 -25

      • Re:Four GBAs to play? (Score:1, Insightful)

        by Anonymous Coward
        Jesus fucking christ. Okay now that we all know the guys from PA are your heros and all, why not really thinking about the god damned situation instead of just regurgitating what your idols say. You fucking sheep. What is it with you people and thinking Gabe and Tycho are authors of the gamers bible.

        Anyways, obviously you don't hang with people who are not quite as hardcore gamers as yourself. Pacman aside, because of Nintendos lame 4-player GBA requirement people like me, who socialize with more than

        • Re:Four GBAs to play? (Score:4, Insightful)

          by realdpk ( 116490 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:19PM (#8873246) Homepage Journal
          You could just play other games. There's no *requirement* that you go out and buy the "latest/greatest" games that require lots of money to get involved with.

          You may as well complain that some games require a PS2 to play, and that's unfair because you don't have a PS2.
          • I'm just going to say this:

            If Nintendo wanted this kind of functionality with the Gamecube, they should have shipped the system with interactive controllers (ala the Dreamcast VMU).

            It's not as if this is a NEW concept. The problem is, a controller with a VMU costs $20, which makes the GBA seem like one damn expensive controller. There are MANY people who will never own a GBA, and it hurts Nintendo's ability to get developers onboard because their potential market is that much smaller.
    • It's not unlike multiplayer PC games. Everyone has to have their own PC in those, too. Plus a switch. Plus an Internet connection if they're playing online.

      Anyways, I haven't yet heard of one of these games not working if you didn't have a GBA. Single player mode can be played alone. Multiplayer mode requires people to have their own hardware.

      I for one am glad they're doing this sort of thing, instead of just throwing away ideas because they might require some investment.
    • What I did was pick up some cheap older GBA's - found a couple for around $15 each, that's hardly an investment.

      I think it's even worse for a PS2 owner. With the price of the console, multitap, ethernet, hard drive, and memory cards - now THAT's an investment! (and it's already called an Xbox).

      I think the connectivity is great though, it expands conventional game design - even a simple game like PacMan is a whole new experience.
    • There are two versions of this game: The first is GBA-only, and the newer is for Gamecube (with or without GBA).
      If you do some investigation, you'll find that this game works without GBAs.
      If a player goes into a mini-dungeon, a GBA screen appears in your TV and you play in it. If you have a GBA, you simply see the screen in your GBA instead of your TV screen.
      If one of the links goes away the screen, the screen zooms out (to a limit).
    • I agree. They did this with Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (which SUCKED compared to other FF series games) as well. I probably won't buy another Nintendo because of this. They make great games, but having to purchase Gameboys to play multiplayer GameCube cames is just play stupid.

  • idiots (Score:4, Insightful)

    by BigBir3d ( 454486 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @01:42PM (#8871816) Journal
    Nice to know that Japanese companies still don't understand one of the biggest markets they have. This interweb thingy is just exacerbating the situation.
    • I don't know the inner workings of Nintendo, but couldn't it be the American branch that made this decision? It seems like they'd have a good deal of say on how localisations should be handeled.
    • Dude, if you think any significant portion of gaming is internet-only on consoles, you're sadly mistaken. Regardless of how popular online is on PC (i'm not saying it isnt), on consoles neither Sony nor Microsoft have broken even off of their online programs. Microsoft is draining millions into Xbox Live, and while its a great system, Microsoft isnt making money off it. Nintendo might be wise in not going online yet; if, however, N5 isnt online, they'll be in trouble.
      • My comment was in reference to gamers the world over communicating via the internet. The propogation of bad or disappointing news is much faster, and available to a wider audience than a typical gamers magazine.

        The internet connected console is a cute idea... but I would rather do that with a PC. I prefer the isolated nature of a traditional console attached to a TV.
  • until i started reading and figured out this whole GBA connectivity thing...now I'm just confused. :(

    This is the style of Zelda I prefer... (I hated the N64 and Current Gamecube releases in the "newer" style) But I can't seem to understand from the article if I have to have a GBA with this to play at all, or if it also has a standard gamecube release.. =\ /sigh
    • I think every player has to use a GBA as a controller, like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. Presumably, like all good Nintendo fanboys, you and all your friends already own them, and the requisite Gamecube->Gameboy cable.

      Having played the Gameboy Advance version[1] I'd say it's quite a fun game, rather action orientated compared to traditional Zelda, but its the sort of game that depends on you being able to get enough people (of the right quality) together to play. I gather the Gamecube is longer tha
      • The GBA Four Swords isn't completely comparable to the GCN game (Hyrule Adventure). I would say that having more people is less necessary to the fun quotient of the GCN game than the GBA one; I've been having almost as good a time playing it single-player as with a friend. Granted, I haven't had the chance to play with more than one other person yet; my problem is not the lack of friends with GBAs and link cables but the fact that no two of them live within 50 miles of each other or me.

        One difference wh

    • You don't need a GBA for the single player mode, which is still a great game. Controlling 4 Links in formation is a lot of fun.

  • If you like this sort of thing. (Score:3, Informative)

    by AzraelKans ( 697974 ) on Thursday April 15, 2004 @03:56PM (#8873775) Homepage
    You may want to check graal online http://www.graalonline.com is basically zelda online in the style of an mmorpg of sorts is cool and to certain extent is free.
    A comment about the game, Im sorry but I really cant vouche for nintendo on their decision to require 4 gbas to play a 4 player game, it sounds more like a scare tactic than a product feature. And come on? 4 friends with 4 gba'S? I have 2 brothers a neighbor and between all of us we have 4 friends with one gba and one gamecube. In which alternate reality every brother in the same household and every neighbor friend has a gba? (well at least it doesnt require 4 cubes)
    • It's like Crystal Chronicles or Pac-Man Vs. Stuff gets moved to the GBA so it's not cluttering the view of the other players (In CC it's MAP/status views and menus. In PMvs, the PM player has a full view of the map on the GBA, while the Ghost players have limited fields of view on the TV. The PM player randomly changes between rounds)

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