The Man Who Knew Too Much 655
theodp writes "For thrilling competition, Slate says the Tour de France pales next to the 25-game reign of Jeopardy! supercontestant Ken Jennings. The 30-year-old software engineer has won a total of $788,960, beating the previous record-holder by a margin of over $600,000. Watching KenJen play is like witnessing any great athlete in top form: He's the Michael Jordan of trivia, the Seabiscuit of geekdom, and his antics have once again made Jeopardy! required viewing. (Update: 26 wins and $828,960: 'When Jennings ran the Marvel comics category during the second round, host Alex Trebek asked: Have you done anything besides read comics? It pays to be a nerd, Jennings responded.')"
Tonari no Totoro (Score:5, Interesting)
He's fast on the button (Score:5, Interesting)
Incredible (Score:5, Interesting)
I had only heard about him until two days ago when he won his 25th in a row, and his winnings for that day were only $14,000, which was his lowest in all 25 games.
Curious about timing (Score:2, Interesting)
I know that normally, game shows are filmed weeks/months in advance before they're aired. For exampls, WWTBAM's daytime edition takes something like 2-3 months between taping and airdate.
What timeframes are we looking at for the current Jeopardy episodes? These certainly aren't being taped for same-day or next-day broadcast, are they? Certainly, if Jeopardy is taped ahead of time, wouldn't it have already been leaked somewhere that there was a guy whose streak went for x episodes?
Maybe he's a robot (Score:4, Interesting)
Brings to mind the recent GSN (Game Show Network) airing on the Michael Larson "Press Your Luck" scandal. This guy learned their random board sequence was actually sets of predictable moves and won what was then large $. Then the network would not pay him, although IMO he did nothing wrong.
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:2, Interesting)
Constantly Recording (Score:5, Interesting)
Based on myself, and some others that read here, I suspect a lot of the Slashdot community is the same way. How else could we recall so much about Linux, servers, PC upkeep, and any number of topics that appear here on a regular basis?
I wish Ken the best of luck, and maybe we'll be able to talk to him here, at some point.
Re:Tonari no Totoro (Score:2, Interesting)
Not even close (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:He's fast on the button (Score:3, Interesting)
My daughter has started rooting against him - "Enough!", she yells, "Ken is getting boring! Somebody make him lose!"
Personally I think he will just decide to walk once he hits $1000000.
Reminds me of "Quiz Show" (Score:4, Interesting)
Should make everyone wonder whether the network has really found a great candidate or just decided to increase viewer numbers again with a similar plot...
The New Jeopardy (Score:5, Interesting)
Anyway, here's to Ken!
Re:Culture (Score:3, Interesting)
Oh, wait. We already do that with reality tv people. Whoops, my bad.
There is a significant amount of difference between being a font of general (if often/somewhat useless) knowledge, and being willing to eat bugs on camera.
In the one case you have demonstrated a voracious appetite for learning and retention of this learning, and made a few bucks along the way.
In the other case, you've eaten bugs, which demonstrates the fact that, with the application of enough money, you'll probably do anything.
I don't know about you but I have plenty of high esteem for people who win on quiz shows because they are more than likely smarter than me. (And this coming from a kid who could answer most of the questions on Jeopardy when he was seven... I haven't watched Jeopardy in such a long time, it's just too easy. I miss that one game show that was on GSN a few years back, with the hidden-host gimmick-- I think it was called Inquisition or something. That had some tough questions.)
Re:$828,960 won so far... (Score:2, Interesting)
Furthermore, he's a BYU grad, and Mormons encourage you to get married and have more adherants, errr, children.
Re:When did Jeopardy get rid of the 5 show max? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Proud? (Score:4, Interesting)
An important part of what most of us regard as 'intelligence' is the ability to 'see' how things relate to one another and form conclusions about them.
One way to do that is to form an abstraction in your head.
Another way is to form an analogy and relate it to something which you do know.
For example the conclusion: "Fighting a war on two fronts is bad", could be reached either by abstract reasoning along the lines of how a two front war would divide one's resources and increase the chance of loosing the war. Or you could form an analogy to Germany loss in WWI.
The way I see it, they compliment eachother. But naturally, knowledge in itself is not intelligence, because you need a certain amount of abstract skills to be able to recognize an analogy.
I Am Not A Cognitive Psychologist, however.
Re:Maybe he's a robot (Score:3, Interesting)
Bored of Ken (Score:4, Interesting)
Actually I am getting sort of tired of watching Ken. I used to watch Jeopardy every evening, but have tunned out lately. He has gotten the signaling button down. Most of the lower value questions are general knowledge and its a matter of who ever signals in first. If you can control the board you can choose the categories and can pic the ones you know more about, also you have a greater chance of getting a daily double. This give an adavantage to those who have been on for a few shows and has gotten used to the timing of the signaling button, regardless of knowledge.
I say bring back the five show rule and get some competition back in the game.
Re:Job Interview? (Score:3, Interesting)
Impossibly hard trivia -
STAR WARS
"This person played Boba Fett in the original SW films."
"Who is Jeremy Bulloch?"
Typical Jeopardy question -
STAR WARS
"Jeremy Bulloch played the role of this deadly intergalactic bounty hunter."
"Who is Boba Fett?"
Re:Constantly Recording (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:4, Interesting)
Besides, earning yourself 1,000,000 over a months time going head to head with 52 other people, you take more than just money away from that experience - you take away satisfaction.
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:5, Interesting)
how else? (Score:3, Interesting)
I occasionally go overseas to visit extended family.. i get tapped by friends of the family to look at computers, these folks have win 3.1 (and even one with win 3.0) and win 95 machines
I typed a 80% complete autoexec.bat from scratch, just by letting my fingers go.. I was trying on the way over to the house, (knew what I was going to be doing) to remember all the lines, and couldn't.
with dos edit open, and a lable at the top that read 'autoexec.bat' it just kinda oozed outta my fingers non-stop....
Re:He's fast on the button (Score:5, Interesting)
Anybody else notice his slight political slant that he lents into his comments? It was towards the beginning of his reign. But in the last couple of shows, he jokes that he is now in favor of the Bush tax cuts.
Speaking of which, does anyone else notice that Bush advertises on Wheel of Fortune and Kerry on Jeopardy?
Re:He's fast on the button (Score:5, Interesting)
People often forget (or don't realize) that there is a certain amount of strategy involved with Jeopardy! Being smart and a trivia hound is definitely the first thing, but then the buzzer comes into play, and answer selection. (If you're under a minute to go in Double Jeopardy and another contestant is at -$2000, try hard not to pick a $2000 answer right away...)
The idea I like the most to unseat KenJen is to bring back Chuck Forrest, Frank Spangenberg, etc. to compete against him. All out Super Jeopardy! brawl!
-Augie
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:The New Jeopardy (Score:2, Interesting)
Obiously he's not playing well (Score:3, Interesting)
Obviously he is not playing very efficiently as he has been winning only about
#!/usr/bin/perl
# jeopardy.pl
# optimal daily double location is the 6th $400
$singleJeopardy = ((1000*6)+(800*6)+(600*6)+(400*6)+(200*5))*2;
pr
# doubleJeopardy doubles answer values
# doubleJeopardy has 2 daily doubles
#
#
$doubleJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy - 400)*2;
print "Max Double Jeopardy round = $doubleJeopardy\n";
$finalJeopardy = ($singleJeopardy + $doubleJeopardy) * 2;
print "Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: $finalJeopardy\n";
$totalJeopardy = $finalJeopardy * 26;
print "26 days
# Results of "perl jeopardy.pl":
# Max Single Jeopardy round = 35600
# Max Double Jeopardy round = 70400
# Max Final Jeopardy! Winnings: 212000
# 26 days
It also shows why Super Millionaire is the place to play if you have that many trivial bits up top
I mean
ken's winning... and SPOILER (Score:4, Interesting)
Ken wins until July 23rd, the last episode of this season. When the next season airs, he wins the first 10 shows, amassing somewhere in the tune of $1.5 million.
This season stopped taping in February and he can't legally comment on anything related to the show until his reign is over.
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That said, I don't think this guy is all that special. Who knows how many prior 5 day champs could have done what Ken has.
And don't ask me how I know. Let's just say a little birdie told me.
How do they keep the audience quiet? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:I Just Hope... (Score:2, Interesting)
Regis kept asking him why he was fiddling with his ear.
The guy worked for some secret government agency, and wouldn't talk about his job.
When he did a phone a friend, there was feedback on the line, something that could only happen if his phone friend was listening to the show be recorded live.
The guy was on twice, and quit both times at the half million dollar level. The second time, half the money was for charity.
I never saw any news story about this guy, so I guess he got away with it. Nice way to pull down $750,000 leveraging high tech survelliance gear.
Re:Tour does not Pale in comparison (Score:5, Interesting)
Lance attacked and was starting to pull away when his handlebar got caught on a spectator's bag and he crashed to the ground most spectacularly. Jan's and Tyler's group went by him and slowed to wait - tradition demands you beat the yellow jersey, not take advantage of misfortune.
Lance climbed back on his bike and immediately the chain slipped and he went groin first into the top-bar - eyewatering stuff. He got his rhythm again, caught up with the group. And kept going - straight through them. Tyler and Jan just could not respond and Lance went on to win the stage by 40 seconds. This gave him enough margin to eliminate any possible challenge in the last time trial.
Tyler Hamilton, incidently, broke his collar-bone on stage one. He still went on to win a stage and finish overall fourth last year. True "Clash of the Titans" stuff. And people think a quiz-show compares?
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:The New Jeopardy (Score:1, Interesting)
Ken will stay on top until someone like Ken but better comes along, and it stands to reason that whoever can beat him will remain unbeatable for a long run until some equally rare triv-master knocks them out.
Not unless the producers want it that way. Ken is smart and knows more than most, but he has strong and weak categories. He runs his strong categories and plays smart on his weak ones.
With 25 shows to look back on, the producers could find all the areas where he had the most trouble and pack the board with "Ken killer" categories (Hint: No questions about comics anywhere on the board)
Then they could put him up against someone who just happens to be good at those categories and a stooge. (The new winner could be killed off the next day with a radically different set of categories)
This would be the end of Ken, but I suspect that they're going to let him get $1,000,000 before actively trying to get rid of him.
Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! (Score:3, Interesting)
However, the only reason he has won 25 days in a row is because they changed the rules of the game.
I forget his last name, but supercontestant Chuck from the 80's would clean KenJen's clock. Chuck gave very complete answers, including one reference in Hebrew that the judges missed the first time and gave him points after researching the answer.
Anyone remember Chuck's last name? He didn't win the overall on one of the Champion match-ups, but he was a very impressive contestant.
Political Theory (Score:3, Interesting)
Here in Atlanta, the local NBC affiliate bumped Jeopardy down from 7:00 into an afternoon time slot in favor of another local news program (in case folks missed the one at 6:00 due to our prolonged exposure to extremely heavy traffic). My guess is that Junior's folks are just playing to the percentages - looking to "borrow eyeballs" from greatest number of post-local news viewers.
Re:Constantly Recording (Score:5, Interesting)
So how good will the *next* champion be? (Score:5, Interesting)
The guy is so good, you know that he'll never do anything stupid enough to lose. There have likely been many like him on this show, but they never had this chance (the limit on 5 wins cut them off).
It will take another super-duper geek to beat him. Is this the future of Jeopardy? "Unbeatable" champions that just win for months at a time? Personally, that'll get boring quick. Having a heroic run once in a while is thrilling: having it happen all the time is just dull. Michael Schumacher's dominance has similarly turned me off of F1 racing.
Methinks another rule change may be in the making for next season: a cap on earnings. Maybe $1,000,000 is the right amount.
BTW, I'm REALLY looking forward to a "Tournament of Champions" where he can square off against some of the others that got cut off at 5 wins. I think he'd do well (likely very well), but he'd certainly not be a lock to beat some of the others we've seen on this show in the past.
Re:Maybe he's a robot (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Chuck would beat KenJen hands down! (Score:4, Interesting)
Quote from Newsweek magazine (Score:5, Interesting)
- Newsweek 7/12/04 issue
Re:Maybe he's a robot (Score:3, Interesting)
The board had two major problems.
1) The technology available to them was very limited in scope. It had limits on how many and how big the random patterns could be. Although I dont see why they couldn't design a system to be completely random, for some reason that I can't remember it had to be psudorandom.
2) The screen values were not random enough. Idelally, it would have been perfect to have a whammy on every possible value and have that run a totally random pattern. at that time however, they didn't cover the entire board. There were many that didn't ever show a whammy and Mike picked two of them that were easy to track the pattern to. And one of them happened to be big bucks.
Once Mike walked all over the board, both of these things were changed. there were more whammys and much more random patterns.
Re:Lance has a unique "condition". (Score:4, Interesting)
He was amazing - he could ride/run at full speed nearly without limit. So long as he kept refueling - getting oxygen and nutrients, he said mentally he could go nearly forever since he never experienced fatigue pain. The danger was that his body gave him no clues before failure. He could ride until his heart failed or his muscles tore. To him, the computers were necessary because he could make sure his heart rate stayed below critical levels and he could stop himself before he did any real damage.
Re:Proud? (Score:4, Interesting)
I remember when I was having my head shrinked. The psychiatrist gave me a battery of tests. He asked me about 10 'useless trivia' questions, e.g. "Who wrote 'Faust'" (I replied "Goeth", pronounced it just like that, not the German pronunciation.) Another question: "Where is Egypt?" (Africa, of course). I forget the rest.
The shrink was using the questions to gauge my general body of knowledge. Combined with other metrics, a general picture of a person's state of mind and persona develops. Certainly, someone who knows who wrote 'Faust' and where Egypt, and the other questions, is a very different person from someone who knows none of the answers. Plus, the fact that I pronounced "Goethe" the way it is would be pronounced if it were an American name, is telling, as it showed that I obtained that knowledge by reading, rather than through a lecture or a TV show. It also showed I was not German, and had not studied the language to any real degree.
Conspiracy? Perhaps. (Score:5, Interesting)
And who monitors them? Seriously, these days with all sorts of corruption coming to light in business [washingtonpost.com]and government [cnn.com], I wouldn't be surprised to find out that some of these "Standards and Practices guys" have ties to the network execs or show owners.
Perhaps this is a test run, to see what the audience will eat up... a quick search on google turned up nothing on these "standards" guys.
Is he smart or quick on the buzzer? (Score:1, Interesting)
Does anyone remember that old British show where they asked insanely difficult questions and these geniuses had to answer? Now that was tough, I remember watching few episodes - it made Jeopardy look like grade school
Re:He's on the wrong show. (Score:2, Interesting)