The Ultimate Nintendo Console 354
Ngamer writes "Logan West, a member of a fanatical group of gamers known as "The Elite," recently created a Nintendo fan's ultimate dream: his Nintendo Entertainment Console is a composite of the NES, SNES, N64, GC, and Gameboy, all combined into a single system! With no shortage of electrical/carpentry ability, Logan carefully dissected his consoles, wired them to a central unit, then crafted a wooden vessel to host all five systems as one. Logan has already gotten a response from Nintendo after submitting his creation to them--they were quite impressed!"
Capability? (Score:3, Funny)
Yes, but can it run Doom 3??
Re:Capability? (Score:2, Redundant)
Re:Capability? (Score:3, Interesting)
(What, you say it doesn't work that way...?)
Re:Capability? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Capability? (Score:2)
Has Doom3 been announced for the GC?
Epa! (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Epa! (Score:5, Funny)
It could use:
* grabhandles on the top
* wheels
* a projector in the back
* a generator
Once you have those mods, it's time to go camping and see what happens when people see you playing games on a 60' rock embankment.
Oh yeah.
Re:Epa! (Score:2)
Heh (Score:5, Interesting)
Seriously though the Gamecube is about the ultimate Nintendo console, stick in a GBP and between ports, GBA ports, and Animal Crossing w/Action Replay you can play a really big hunk of Nintendo. In particular a Gamecube with GBP is capable of playing every single Zelda game ever made*
* Not counting the Phillips CD-I titles. Which you shouldn't.
Well... (Score:2)
Re:Well... (Score:2)
Re:hmm (Score:2)
The modchip was AU$40, so probably about $25 in yank dollars.
I bought the Xbox itself on rewards from my credit card for AU$250, which I guess equates to $150 in yank dollars. Of course, it was bought for the purpose of replacing my broken DVD player, not for gaming since the GameCube was doing excellently at that, but when I discovered it could fairly effectively emulate the N64 as well as the GBA and SNES, I was fairly pleased (although I really do need to find a way to use the real controllers...)
I have one too (Score:5, Funny)
For anyone else who wants one, what you do is, you walk down to your local furniture store and buy what we in England like to call a "shelf".
Indeed (Score:5, Insightful)
I was a little disappointed when I read what the guy had really done. He's just de-cased his consoles and put them in a big box.
I imagined some clever wiring/electronics to have all the consoles driven by one set of four controllers, with one SCART/Component output for all of the consoles, a cleverer switch setup that doesn't boil down to having one reset button for each console, etc. Now that would have been neat, although
I suppose hardcore Nintendo fans would balk at the idea of using the wrong kind of controller with the wrong game -- a Game Cube controller for the NES? NOOOOOO! I assume, also, that the GC controllers are a bit more complex than just some pushbuttons hooked up to some wires as the old controllers were. Still, it would have been cool!
Love (Score:3)
Re:Love (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Love (Score:3, Interesting)
While not yet extinct, it's almost there. Almost makes me feel bad for putting all that wooden furniture my grampa/grandma left me in a storage.
We are truly killing this planet(*)... not that I'm doing anything to prevent it.
(*) In a manner of speaking. As George Carlin said, the planet isn't going anywhere... we are.
Dealing with heat? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Dealing with heat? (Score:4, Informative)
That's how.
not as simple as whacking a big fan on it (Score:2)
So i _would_ doubt the stability of this thing.
Secondly, assuming you can get enough cooling off the surface of these chips, you have to give thought to the actual airflow inside the case, even with a
Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:5, Informative)
Well, drawing upon the definition [uky.edu] of class 1 lasers, we can see that:
It is neat that they replied with a non-canned response, but it was total BS. You don't have anything to worry about with this laser, and they just don't want to encourage people to modify their products like this for some reason.
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2, Informative)
"class II: the blinking reflex of the human eye will prevent eye damage"
So as long as you blink you're ok
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
Re:It's 668 nm, you know, RED. (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
normally you wouldn't be able to hurt yourself with a class I device because it won't operate when open, hence you don't need special training to use a cd player.
(however, i think it's quite unlikely anyways to hurt yourself as it's focused very near..)
a definition I digged up goes something like this "Class 1 Laser devices are not considered to be hazardous when used for their intended purpose.", intended purpose is the key.
No, just general CYA (Score:3, Insightful)
The US is just really lawsuit happy thesedays, so you cover your ass as much as possible. I mean there might be some way to injure yourself with that laser. Maybe you pump more power through it than normal and stare right at it for 5 hours. Stupid? Yes, but better the company be able to say "we told you not to do that" than to loos
Required Reference to AP (Score:2)
Dr. Evil
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
He needs to put this sticker on the outside of the unit: "WARNING! DO NOT LOOK AT LASER WITH REMAINING EYE".
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
Re:Class 1 Laser, eh? (Score:2)
source (lengthy pdf) [nintendo.com]
Class I lasers are limited to 0.4 mW. source [osha-slc.gov]The Gamecube laser would be a class II device, were it not for the safety interlock. OSHA explains
Ummm OK (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Ummm OK (Score:2)
Controller nightmare... (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:Controller nightmare... (Score:2)
NES had a wireless 3rd party adapter
SNES had some really really crappy wireless adapters
N64 not sure
GC - Wavebird
Looks like he forgot the Virtual Boy (Score:4, Funny)
Ive seen better (Score:4, Informative)
Wow - That thing is HUGE! (Score:2, Insightful)
Given the choice of having all the listed systems working in their original cases - or having all of them in one large block of mahogany that took up the same amount of space - I would have to go with leaving them alone (I personally enjoy the 'cool' factor of having mint condintion, working, old game consoles)
Re:Wow - That thing is HUGE! (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Wow - That thing is HUGE! (Score:3, Interesting)
A coffe table would look nicer, take up less room(hardly any, since y
A better combination would be... (Score:4, Funny)
Re:A better combination would be... (Score:2)
pretty damn creative (Score:3, Insightful)
Electrical and carpentry ability? (Score:5, Funny)
Now he has a 40lb console that would look completely awful if you actually plugged all the controllers and power supplies in.
Re:Electrical and carpentry ability? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Electrical and carpentry ability? (Score:3, Informative)
A commercial firm has named its product "Duck Tape," harkening back to the original name for this adhesive tape...
It was originally called duck tape because of its water proofing, but has since been used in duct work, so the colour was changed and people now call it duct tape. There were two links [wsu.edu].
Incidentally, it seems that its poor at sealing duct work. From near the bottom of this article "Duct Tape It's not for ducts any more. In fact, it never was. [inventiona...nology.com]"
Nintoilet (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Nintoilet (Score:2)
Re:Nintoilet (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Nintoilet (Score:2)
That's what Nintendo was worried about..
Nice Case (Score:5, Interesting)
Money (Score:2)
If you want a wood case, and are willing to drop som cash on it, find a local woodworker (they are out there, frequently they do construction jobs) and comission them. It will be expensive though.
Re:no (Score:2)
Re:no (Score:3, Informative)
The FCC certification states that the part will comply with EMI regulations, when assembled as expected. That 'as expected' is critical, but I'll come back to that.
In the UK, it is illegal to sell a computer that is not certified to meet EMI regs. There are two ways to do this - one is to test a system (expensive!), the other is to say that each part shouldn't cause a problem, and the assembl
Re:Nice Case (Score:5, Informative)
Splah-dow!
Re:Nice Case (Score:2)
Re:Nice Case (Score:2)
:)
Re:Nice Case (Score:2)
Re:Nice Case (Score:2)
Touch your computer case.
Now turn off your computer, and leave it off for a while. I recommend playing Gamecube to deal with the withdrawal symptoms. Touch the case again.
How different are they in temperature? Not very. Most of the heat inside of your case exits with the air, not through case heat transfer. That's why plastic computer cases are fine also - plastic sucks at heat transfer just like wood.
Re:Nice Case (Score:2)
Worst part... no s-video... (Score:3, Interesting)
As for the merits, I don't really like this mod. I wouldn't call it "The Ultimate Nintendo Console", that's for sure.
Re:Worst part... no s-video... (Score:2)
Nah, all kidding aside, this is just sad people desperately trying to express themselves creatively. It should be encouraged, as I doubt they get much chance otherwise. Poor souls. I used to be just like them, and it wasn't pretty.
Re:Worst part... no s-video... (Score:2)
It was easy enough to do, and quite fun. Google for "2600 composite video" and you should be set.
Re:Worst part... no s-video... (Score:2)
Only the older SNES supported S-video. The newer, smaller model (which they used) doesn't support S-video without modification. You'll note the warning if you browse to Nintendo's S-video cable in their online store [nintendo.com].
It's kinda like the top-loading NES not supporting composite outputs, only not as stupid.
Its just like my dream! (Score:2)
Re:Its just like my dream! (Score:2)
Google Cache (Score:5, Informative)
Positively wretched! (Score:4, Funny)
Heres a mirror in case it needs it. (Score:3, Informative)
Logan has already gotten a response from Nintendo (Score:2, Funny)
Translation, they sent him a cease & desist letter.
Already been done (Score:5, Interesting)
Must...have...cable...management! (Score:2, Interesting)
On the aside, I have always wanted to take one of the three Atari 2600's I own and condense it to the size of a Nomad so I could play on the road.
Re:Must...have...cable...management! (Score:4, Insightful)
Must..have..wireless..controllers.
Why anyone would use anything but wireless controllers these days is beyond me. The SNES, the N64 and the Gamecube all have excellent wireless controllers.
play every game, ever made, ever (Score:3, Interesting)
Too bad it'll never happen, so the technically 'illegal' abandon-ware [wikipedia.org] ROMS will have to do (but it's actual work collecting them).
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Mirror (Score:5, Informative)
The Response From Nintendo (Score:5, Funny)
And they answered him:
Dear Logan, We are quite impressed by your resourcefulness and ingeniousity. Its always remarkable to see that individuals with limited resources can make more original and inspiring toys than the average established big corporation. Nevertheless your limited resources guarantee us that you probably wont be able to defend correctly in court against a giant monster with unlimited legal war chest like us. For that reason we simply decided to sue you ass to the bone.
Surrender immediately (and by immediately we mean in the next 15 minutes) all the Nintendo modified material, the tools you used to do your exploit, the residence were the manipulation of our proprietary design as been done and your first new born girl.
Any attempt to delay or negotiate the terms of this request will be considered as an hostile act against Nintendo Corp. and all of is partners. We are currently seeking permission from court to shoot you on sign and this formality will be accomplish in the next minutes. Our black suited agents in black SUV's are already on their way to your home
Resistance is futile
Again, congratulation for you impressive fun home made gizmo and have a nice day. Sincerely yours.
Al Suy Ouras
Nintendo legal department director and VP of the kitties and puppies crushing department
One for the crapper (Score:2)
Here's how to get Doom 3 to run... (Score:3, Funny)
Then you load a custom cartridge/CD in each system that is a fragment of the main game loop. Each console's firmware has been modified to execute things like glTriangle and stuff very efficiently (ask John Carmack to do it).
Then custom-machine a motherboard and bus that takes in the inputs from the consoles and at the same time manages them for parallel processing. A video output to the TV, connect a controller, and BAM Doom 3 on your TV!
*runs*
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
Me! I have three NES, two SNES and a GC. Actually I've got a lot of NES because all my games were sold with the consoles.
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
If you own and want to play those games. You would need that many systems.
Personally I own all of the above mentioned Nintendo Systems, the PS2, a nice Gaming PC and I have an XBox on order?
Why? Because I like video games. And there are some games that you can't get on other systems, or they just aren't as good.
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
Sure it does. At least NES [gamebase.ca], SNES [gamebase.ca] (and hey, even C64 [ruoho.org])
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
It's not just for the games. I code a lot of stuff on the consoles (mainly the PS2 these days). It reminds me of coding on the good old C64 - you know exactly what's inside the box, no surprises ahead.
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
I own an NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, Nintendo 64, Dreamcast, Playstation 2, GameCube, Gameboy, Gameboy Advance SP, and a Neo Geo Pocket Color.
Own four controllers for all but the handhelds, multitaps where applicable. I have about 200 *legally owned* titles spanning on those machines. All but the handhelds have some kind of boot disc/mod to play imports/backups (mod chips, Game Genie made to fit any cartridge...). I've replaced the drive motors
Re:So many devices (Score:2)
Re:Game Boy in that thing? (Score:2)
Which would explain why he used the Gameboy Player for the Gamecube instead of an actual Gameboy. RTFA.
Re:Game Boy in that thing? (Score:2)
Re:Game Boy in that thing? (Score:2)
Re:MythTV (Score:2)
Re:MythTV (Score:3, Informative)
2. Emulation doesn't get you your saves on your real cartridges
3. Emulators of many systems only gets the games playable. It doesn't get you perfect sound and picture of the original.
Re:MythTV (Score:5, Insightful)
Not always an issue. A Dual Shock is IMHO the greatest consoel controller ever made. I have no problems playing Atari,Gensis,SMS, NES,SNES, N64 etc games all on a joystick that I'm comfortable with. Why would I want to suffer with those old Atari joysticks? Sorry but I did enough of that 20 years ago.
"2. Emulation doesn't get you your saves on your real cartridges."
And you would want this because? With an EMU you can save whenever you want if that's you thing.
"3. Emulators of many systems only gets the games playable. It doesn't get you perfect sound and picture of the original."
Actually for many older console systems you do get perfect sound and picture. Have you looked into Emulated gaming recently? There are a ton of really good emu's out there and even the oldest systems have new emulators coded for them now and then.
Plus with Emulation you don't have to keep 20 consoles around cluttering up your livingroom. The cartridges don't have to be cleaned, you won't wear the parts out, and you don't have to spend huge amount of money on games. I say this as someone who grew up with Atari, NES etc and I own a bunch of console systems and I won't be getting rid of any time soon. IMO Emulation is simply more practical and a better solution. Remember, its the games and gaming that matter, not the screws, chips, and solder that are holding the systems together. The games need to survive, the actual hardware which will become rarer and rarer and more likely to stop working doesn't.
btw my preferred setup is currently MHTPC which serves as a fantastic front end for all my console and arcade gaming needs.
Re:MythTV (Score:3, Informative)
Plus, you can't even accurately emulate all the games.
Re:MythTV (Score:3, Informative)
Also, on the topic of emulation accuracy. The NES is probably the most accurately emulated console to date (check out FCE Ultra). However, the SNES emulators still have a ways to go..
Re:MythTV (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:MythTV (Score:2)
The SNES is mostly perfect, although I can think of a few games that are fairly glitchy on all the emulators I've tried.
The N64 emulators still have some issues with a number of games.
The GameCube isn't remotely close to having a playable emulator for it. Period.
So no, in absolutely no sense could you possible do all of this with MythTV. It's not even close.
Re:MythTV (Score:2)
However, the emulator plugin MythGame has literally zero documentation and has a lot of weird issues which result in a lot of forum combing. As an example, the setup requires setting up many different paths for the different emulators. Well, do you specify path with the / or without? Just guess because some work some ways and others work others. Oh did I say path? W
Translation (Score:2)
Re:......YIKES! (Score:3, Funny)
I hope this is a lame attempt at humor. This is Slashdot, after all.