Saitek Maestro Travel Chess Computer Review 33
justechn writes "I just finished my review of the Maestro Travel Chess Computer, sent to me by Saitek. If you really like chess and are always on the go then this device will give you the chess fix that you desire without the hassle of lugging around a real chess board and pieces."
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:2)
Have you _EVER_ played chess?
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:3, Insightful)
Still doesn't compete with a real live opponent though.
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:1)
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:2)
Though I do prefer playing against people :)
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:2)
Hm. Computers play a draw against the top-three of all human chess players. They beat everyone else. So, basically, computers play better chess than (5,999,999,997 / 6,000,000,000) * 100 % = 99.99999998 % of all humans, and lose of no-one. To me, that is no different than saying that computers are better at playing chess than humans.
Re:Irrelevant (Score:2)
I was just reacting to the parent's statement that humans are better chess players than chess computers. They are not.
Furthermore, I would say that not only the game of chess remains interesting when humans play each other, but also when humans play against a computer. The reason is that chess games against a computer feel completely different from chess games against humans. And computers sometimes come up with very surprising moves.
Of course, I may
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:1)
Re:Chess computers have ruined the game of chess. (Score:2)
There is a report on the tournament here [chessbase.com].
Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
You might not need the other features of a Palm. This device was about $60, and there are cheaper models.
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
Re:Why? (Score:1)
Re:Why? (Score:2)
"64 Study Positions - see how the experts do it"
See how the experts do it? Now this is a feature I haven't found in my chess program. What could it be? A stripping queen? Pawn mass gang-bang? The horse... uh...
I'm not sure if I need this function on a portable device.
A Better Idea (Score:1)
Wouldn't you rather have a palm top with a chess game?
Most cheap pdas are under $100 and they aren't just for chess.
You know (Score:3, Insightful)
I think two arm processors can do as well as a specialized chess machine. Especially a handheld one. Not to mention that playing with two screens, one of them being a touch screen should be quite nice.
Someone needs to make all kinds of board games for the DS, it is so perfect. I know at least in Japan they are making mah-jong. We need some European board games though, like Settlers, Tigris and Euphrates, or the best of all time Puerto Rico!
If there was Puerto Rico for the DS I would buy two copies.
Also, I know lots of people who would like to play go.
Are you listening Nintendo?
Re:You know (Score:3, Funny)
The DS is coming fom Japan!
If it has nothing else you can guarantee it will have: Go, Mahjonng, a really long RPG about avenging your father's death, and some sort of anime strip poker game or possibly anime strip mahjongg.
Re:You know (Score:3, Funny)
Re:You know (Score:2)
There are a few Go games for the GBA already. Hikaru no Go 1 and 2 are go games that include a story mode mimicking the manga and Anime plots. The AI is pretty bad, a whole 3 days of go playing is all you really need to trounce the computer. And all of this on 9x9 boards most of the time. Playing on a 19x19 is a terrible experience. the computer needs over a minute to think about every single move, wether it's completely obvious or not, and it is even a worse player than it is in 9x9. The games are good en
Re:You know (Score:2)
I know a lot about Go playing programs. To make a long story short: they all suck. AI research is simply not up to the task of getting a computer to play Go. It will take a long time before we get a challenging Go program.
Re:You know (Score:2)
1) For begginners an easy go program can still be challanging and they can still learn from it
2) More importantly, GO on the DS would be quite a bit more portable than most "travel" and folding GO products. The inclusion of a touch screen would make it so that it would be easy for two people to play head to head on the same board DS while the fact that there is wireless capability makes two people on two DS easy to
Re:You know (Score:3, Funny)
Review of the review: (Score:5, Informative)
Manuel? Who's manuel? Is that like a grandmaster who helps give you instructions on how to play?
Seriously though, it seems like there wasn't a lot to review here. It's like you state the features, and there's really not much else to tell.
The clasp is interesting. It seems like a magnet, but it is attracted to a small clear plastic strip that is on the bottom portion of the case. I personally didn't know magnets were attracted to plastic. Maybe it has some metal in it.
Hm, good to know. I'll definitely factor that in when I'm thinking about buying it.
The computer will not allow you to make illegal moves, so it is helpful to have all the moves memorized.
If you ask me, all chess computers are expected not to allow you to make illegal moves. If you they don't do that, IT'S NOT CHESS.
What was missing from the review, IMHO:
- Pictures. All the descriptions of where buttons and indicators were would have left me more satisfied if I could actually have seen where they were, rather than simply imagining it.
- How tough are the levels? Something like, "I've been playing for x years, my rating is yyy (or, I don't have a rating), and I was beaten thoroughly past level zzz."
- Are all the computer's moves instantaneous? Does it take longer for the computer to think on higher levels? How much longer?
- Battery Life.
- What competing products are there? If Saitek won't let you mention competitors, then you're just being an advertising stool pigeon for them.
For some reason, I like this line:
you have to pack a big board and lots of pieces. This makes it very inconvenient to whip it out for a quick game.
Besides having some innuendo, I must say that it is tough to play at a moment's notice. Is carrying a chess board around what's really stopping you from playing all the time? I mean, unless you just go around challenging the guy sitting next to you on the bus, I don't think carrying a chess board around is going to do you any good. Just my opinion. I'm sure there are contradictory examples.
Must have been a slow news day for this to get onto slashdot.
Re:Review of the review: (Score:1)
And what kind of review doesn't have a picture of the product? I googled for one and guess what? It looks just like a PDA.
Nothing to see here...
Re:Review of the review: (Score:2)
I dunno, it seems more like a gift you'd give to your local chess fanatic or young child.
get a new phone (Score:2)
http://www.yipton.demon.co.uk/content.html#EChess
It's not that bad (Score:2, Interesting)
To the people that say "Get a Game Boy" - I don't want a game boy. Game boys are for kids. Maybe the new one will be better, but it's not out yet and no chess game is available.
To those that say "Get a Palm" - I don't want one. I already carry a sub notebook for all my computing needs including internet through a cellular thigamajig. I don't need a lesser computer taking up space in my bag.
I
Re:It's not that bad (Score:1, Flamebait)
You've just shown that you know nothing whatsoever about Game Boys.
Re:It's not that bad (Score:2)
Look, this basically is a PDA that just plays chess. Even the form factor is the same. Your objection about not wanting to buy a palm pilot, which you should be able to do for less than fifty bucks, is especially ridiculous because this thing is a computer. Did you think there was a chess-playing gnome inside of it?