

Build Your Own Arcade Kit 115
Shawn Walters writes "Xgaming, Inc., has announced availability of the new X-Arcade BYO Arcade KIT, a $60 solution designed to allow users to create an authentic arcade machine in their home powered by any PC, Mac or game console, no advanced technical skills required." Heck of a lot easier than building your own.
Umm, (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Umm, (Score:1)
Been there, done that, but have you tried... (Score:1)
You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:5, Informative)
If you're trying to convert a standard JAMMA cabinet or a Dance Dance Revolution cabinet for use with a PC, notice that Most VGA cards can't easily output video at horizontal scan rates below 31 kHz, the scan rate of a 480p monitor. However, arcade monitors that follow the JAMMA standard expect RGB video at 15.7 kHz, the same as 240p or 480i TV. You'll need a special video card to handle this, namely Ultimarc's ArcadeVGA [ultimarc.com].
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:5, Informative)
Luckily, these are the ATI cards that work well with linux. I'd suggest running linux with advanceMAME, or even X Windows with some custom modelines, because that way you can be sure that Windows won't accidentally try to set it to some bad resolution and as-plode your monitor.
Of course, every modern card comes with TV out, and for a homebuild cabinet, an $20 27" TV from the Sally Ann is as good a choice as a $900 27" monitor. If you have SVideo input, the picture will be just as good.
Frankly, I'd rather rebuild arcade cabinets as they are than shove a MAME box into one. It's just not the same. I'd rather have my dedicated Bad Dudes vs Dragonninja cabinet than something jammed with 2000000 mahjong variants. But then, I'd rather collect SNES carts than download roms. I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to retro-gaming.
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:2)
I'm with you part-way - I'd rather have an actual arcade cab than a MAME cab. Something about having the original side art, dents, etc.
That being said, I wrote a script to remove all the mahjong and solitaire variants - pretty easy, actually. The key, naturally, is to figure out what you want to do - personally, I'd rather have a simple cab than one with 200 buttons, so that everything would work. (though I do dig t
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:1)
Depends on the card (Score:5, Informative)
Some older VGA cards will clock the RGB output down to TV rate (which is what you want) in TV-out mode because they're running both the TV output and the VGA output off one RAMDAC. However, newer VGA cards with TV-out have dual RAMDACs, which scan the screen at two different rates. The VGA signal is too fast, and the TV signal is composite or S-video, which will only look black-and-white because most arcade monitors don't have a decoder.
Or you could get an actual TV and connect it to the TV-out, but then either you miss what's in the overscan portion of the display, or more commonly the video card shrinks and blurs the display to fit within the overscan.
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:4, Informative)
You'll probably want to go with svideo (as opposed to composite or coax *shudder*) connection to the TV.
If you want to use the original arcade monitor (which is similiar to a tunerless TV, with dangerous exposed innards --- except it uses RGB and sync connections) you can use an ArcadeVGA, an older card that'll clock down to 15khz and a VGA hack, or use ultimarcs J-pac jamma ready/capable encoder which slides into an arcade cabinets (well Jamma cabinets) jamma socket and again presuming a video card that'll clock down get you going with an existing cabinet/arcade monitor.
"Building" a Mame cabinet is no where as hard as it used to be because there's been great advancements in the mame cabinet building community, and a ton of support "niche" market providers to create products that make it really easy to convert an existing cabinet (or build your own)... hell there's even a book on the topic to step you throuh the process.
Project Arcade [projectarcade.com] Amazon link with author's referral id [amazon.com]
what was the question again? =)
e.
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:4, Informative)
Yeah, it's not hard. I picked up Project Arcade from Barnes and Noble on a whim and then decided to build my own cocktail arcade. It wasn't that difficult. I spent $370 total.
Here's a couple of tips, first, using a keyboard controller for your input is neat, but very difficult to work with. Most newer PS2 keyboard "fix" the ghosting problem by failing to report the 3rd key in alignment. That means instead of ghost keys, you'll have keys that just don't show up.
Second, I had the idea, like many others I'm sure, to use a compactflash card instead of a harddrive. This was a bad idea, compactflash is just too slow. Advmame is 70 megs, it takes forever just to load that 70 megs into ram.
Third, for the love of god, use CAT5 for your wiring. At first glance you don't realize that each joystick is going to use 8 wires, and each button uses 2, and when all is said and done, you're going to have a clump of 80 wires that are difficult to manage.
Here's a nice little pricelist [azstarnet.com] I compiled of my mame cabinet.
Finally, work out exactly how much of everything you'll need. It's pretty annoying to have to go to the store and pick up something you missed. You'll notice from my pricelist, there's the littlest things listed. I had to go to the store 3 times to pick up different sized wood screws, or a set of corner braces, etc.
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:2)
Actually, talk to your local telcom worker or someone who works in the "voice" arena. They'll probably have some spare 26 pair lying around, and once you get the color coding down, it's much easier to manipulate and make look nice in the cabinet....
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:1)
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:1)
Since I am more comfortable with a soldering iron and a screwdriver then I am with a measuring tape and table saw I tried to find an old arcade cabinet to convert in to my own modded XBOX cabinet.
After lots of looking
Kozango.com ships only to Canada (Score:1)
I have not seen them up there recently, but here is the link to their site: http://www.kozango.com/
Who will pick up a cabinet in Canada and re-ship it to the United States of America? Or which other firm should I try?
Re:You'll also need ArcadeVGA (Score:2)
Still Need a Cabinet (Score:5, Insightful)
Anywhere to get one of these online...
And I hate eBay... an old saying comes to mind... "A wretched hive of scum and villainy"
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:3, Informative)
Speaking of eBay, I will be putting my completed mame box up for auction later this week. If you are interested, let me know and I will send the eBay link to you. (If you don't want to go through eBay, I can send pics of the box and sell it direct).
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:1)
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:1)
Thus I'm limited to purchases on the net.
Yeah, I'll check it out.
scpoaxmeh@yahoo.com
My address does not contain spam
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:1)
Re:Still Need a Cabinet (Score:2)
I built my own cocktail cabinet. $100 for a glass, a full sheet of MDF (this thing is heavy), and some miscellaneous hardware. I used the I-Paq controllers though.
But I also have a wide body pinball cab that I bought a couple years ago ($25 or $50). I might have to look into an X-Arcade controller for it. Now if I could just
Easier than building? (Score:5, Insightful)
This appears to be nothing more than an arcade controller interface. This is nothing more than 1 part that you need to build your own.
The "arcade parts bundle" at the bottom of the article really scares me and is probably quite telling. $19.95 for 20 arcade-style buttone AND 2 arcade-style joysticks? Quality.
Re:Easier than building? (Score:2)
mnb Re:Easier than building? (Score:3, Insightful)
If it's the same bits that means they are selling you a fancy case with the words "X-Arcade" painted on it for $90.50. The bare joystick cost $5.50 (a two-pack costs $11) and the 8 buttons are worth $4. (a twenty-pack costs $10)
From Happcontrols.com I can't find a bare arcade joystick for under $14.
The again Xgaming does say about their X-Arcade Solo:
"Measuring in at 11 inches from side to side and built with 12 LBS of industrial grade materials...
They must mean 1 pound of particle
Re:mnb Re:Easier than building? (Score:3, Interesting)
I have one of the original X-arcades. Great piece of equipment. I imagine the difference in price would account for "assembly, testing, etc" in addition to the nice logo.
As to the weight of the solo unit, MDF is prett
Re:Easier than building? (Score:1)
Re:Easier than building? (Score:5, Informative)
Board 59.95 + Joysticks/Buttons 19.95 + PC Adapter 19.95 = $99.85 VS. Buying it pre-assembled and paying $149.95
And as for quality... I have an X-Arcade and I have beaten the stuffings out of playing SF-style games and Metal Slug 1-5, and all the components still work perfectly after a year of abuse.
When I originally bought it, I had concerns about quality and switch life, so I ordered 20 extra buttons and 2 extra joysticks... and they all sit in their unopened packages because I haven't had to replace one yet.
Re:Easier than building? (Score:4, Informative)
They use cheaper generic microswitches wich are clickier/louder and perhaps feel "different" in both their joysticks and buttons (as opposed to the cherry "nike" of microswitches).
The plastic on the buttons is thinner/cheaper.
They function the same, and are "arcade quality" but when I play something demanding like "track and field" on my cabinet, I kinda wish I upgraded to happs buttons. (or swap in some better microswitches)
Of course, for true nostalgic action (Dependingo n your age) you'll want only leaf switch joysticks/buttons that require periodic adjustment and contact cleaning =)
*Shrug* ymmv
rampy
Still gotta build it... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Still gotta build it... (Score:2)
HIGH SCORE !!
Re:Still gotta build it... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:Still gotta build it... (Score:2, Informative)
The interface I used for my panel was a pair of 5 dollar 10 button USB joysticks. Rip out the usb interface, solder away. That's 10 bucks for 20 non-ghosting, plug and play buttons. Want another? Bust ano
Re:Still gotta build it... (Score:2)
I've got a modular interface to all of my platforms. It's called molex. You can crimp wires from the joysticks and buttons onto a molex connector and then on the other side of the connector crimp wires running to your gamepad/encoder of choice. So far, I've got a Dreamcast, NES, SNES, PSX/PS2, Saturn, and a TG16 all wired up for play from a single controller through the wonders of mol
Marvell Vs. Capcom (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Marvell Vs. Capcom (Score:2)
Why not use Knoppix/MAME?
Build Your Own Arcade Kit (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Build Your Own Arcade Kit (Score:1, Funny)
Punctuation for only $60 available at a grammar store near you no really I kid you not
Slashdot: Advertising (Score:5, Interesting)
Slow news day or what?
Please mod parent up (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
News for nerds? I'd just settle for something that matters at this stage...
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2, Troll)
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:4, Informative)
This gentleman is a troll [slashdot.org]. He's referencing an April Fools' story from a couple years back [slashdot.org], intended to be ridiculous and poke fun at such buffoonery. Any time a product is mentioned in a /. story, there are boobs accusing the editors of accepting paid advertisement. Let's face it: almost any news story is going to be potentially beneficial to some businesses. Sometimes, more than others.
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:1, Interesting)
Then why don't the editors have the sack to come out and post an official Slashdot guideline on such posts? This story's submitter represents the freakin' site! If there is any sort of agreement with this site's staff and a linked site via a story submission then it should be mentioned in the write-up. It's basic "journalistic" ethics.
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
Anonymous Coward wrote:
(WTF do you want to be AC for this sort of stuff? The purpose of AC is (1) to make comments that might be sensitive if traced back to you and (2) trolling. It sure doesn't look like you're after (1), so...why?)
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
It's an advertisement, plain and simple, what can YOU not understand about that?
The best part is that even though that article was april fools, slashdot can use it as having informed the public
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
Talking boobs ?! Wow, I'd pay money to see that! ;)
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
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Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
If it interests you then you'd read it whether it was or not, and if it doesn't interest you then you just have to do the mammoth task of scrolling past it.
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
If a story said for example "pentium 5 born, buy it here, Intel paid us for this advert" it would be exactly the same as if it said "pentium 5 born, buy it here". If you care you click, if you don't you move past it.
Re:Slashdot: Advertising (Score:2)
Re:wheres the pin? (Score:1)
*shakes head* (Score:5, Informative)
and you'll want the obligatory (and sadly missing from the main post) link to Build Your own arcade controls [arcadecontrols.com] site and very helpful forum/community [arcadecontrols.com]
Although I used x-arcade parts on my cabinet, I think you'll be happier in the long run if you order from happs directly or buy happs parts from bob roberts.
e.
Re:*shakes head* (Score:1)
If you're lazy, drop a $100 and get the Hotrod http://www.hanaho.com/products/HotRodJoystick/ove
This does not belong here... (Score:5, Interesting)
A while ago I built a pretty cheap JAMMA/Xbox/PS1/PS2/Dreamcast [link [chrisevans3d.com]]. It was pretty cheap, but not $60.
Re:This does not belong here... (Score:2)
*gasp* BUTTONS and two STICKS!
http://www.x-arcade.com/arcade_bundle.sh
Re:This does not belong here... (Score:2)
If I had my own place I'd think about it, this is really awsome.
Holy self-absorbed Taco (Score:4, Insightful)
Admit it, you posted this just for the sake of linking to your goofy homemade MAME cabinet.
BTW, there are many, many, many better homebuilt cabinets out there than yours. Why not throw a few more links in?
Re:Holy self-absorbed Taco (Score:2)
Not only that, he appears to have slashdotted himself.
The game matters (Score:2, Interesting)
I began playing old & "free" N.E.S. [nintendo.com] games. May be some real-like arcade machines [penny-arcade.com] may be funny. But I never liked to pay for a noisy and expensive machine.
Re:The game matters (Score:4, Insightful)
One word, nostalgia. The first video game that I ever played was at a corner pizza place in the late 1970's and I spent my entire 1980's youth in arcades playing video games. So for me, although the games are important, it is about more than just the games.
Asking why someone would build a cabinet when they can just use an emulator is kind of like asking why someone would restore an old classic car when they could just buy a new car.
Re:The game matters (Score:2)
Nice to relive the nostalgic moments... (Score:2, Interesting)
I remember as a kid getting an old "Depthcharge" cabinet with all of the parts sitting on the bottom. They lug the thing to my house I start modding the thing to work with my NES so it will feel a little more like the "arcade version" (and to impress my friends...wait I did not have any friends).
After three days of working on the thing with no technical knowledge, I wound up with a broken NES and a broken heart. The cabinet wound up outsi
Re:Nice to relive the nostalgic moments... (Score:1)
Re:Nice to relive the nostalgic moments... (Score:1)
In seriousness, this idea of making your PC/Console/whatever is a pretty neat idea until you realize it is much easier to just sit down in front of your television/monitor and play the thing.
While the Depthcharge story is true and is probably still sitting in my mom's shed, I realized it was a waste of time. Yes, it looks cool at first, but think about it. Why are you really doing it?
Ok now read it again (Score:4, Informative)
It also brings your control panel compatability
with
Playstation One or Playstation Two
Xbox
Gamecube
Dreamcast
Apple
and your PC
A normal key encoder can't do this from what I have read.
Here's mine... been working on it for months... (Score:1)
Cocktail MAME Cab [jaxed.com]
Re:Here's mine... been working on it for months... (Score:2)
I-PAC Anyone? (Score:3, Informative)
blah (Score:2)
The only question I have about Xgaming's kit... (Score:2)
Re:The only question I have about Xgaming's kit... (Score:1)
quality (Score:1)
I actually bought the $20 sticks-n-switches bundle a while ago, and while it's not the REAL real thing, they are decent reproductions, with decent microswitches. The springs in the sticks are a little tight in my opinion, and they have very narrow "diagonal" ranges, but they still play like champs and feel very solid.
I just finished coding my own xmame front-end, check it out here: http://woz.gs/gorf/ [woz.gs] There are pics of the $20 bundle in there :)
This is an I-PAC (Score:1)
Uhh.. Hey Taco? (Score:4, Funny)
legal? (Score:2)
Yea, go ahead and stick a Mame machine or any console in a park without the proper licenses. Even if you don't ask for any money, you still might get in trouble. Don't forget about the cafe that got sued by valve because they were using a retail copy.
Re:legal? (Score:2)
Re:legal? (Score:2)
The article did, actually...
"Convert Or Refurbish An Existing Arcade Machine Into A MAME Machine"
I used cheap USB gamepads... (Score:1)
Anyway, all games I have tried worked great with the gravis game pads I have rewired to the controls. The key with the G
I had an X-Arcade Controller (Score:2, Informative)
As others have pointed out, Ultimarc is the place to buy the I-Pac to interface to your computer. The joysticks that Ultimarc sells are much higher quality (and the E-stick is high quality and super ea
taco sooo slow (Score:2)
There is a new product for sale in the malls around here. It's 100+ old style arcade games built into one small game controller that just plugs into the RCA jacs on your TV (if you have those). It's pretty cool to see Donkey Kong, Super Mario, and Pac Man again. But they left out Star Wars (remember the Vector version?).
Oh well...
Shameless Plugging (Score:4, Funny)
http://nuclearplayground.com/joysticks/ [nuclearplayground.com]
Even cheaper than $60! (Score:3, Funny)
--Rob
SLIKSTIK... (Score:2)
Building your own cabinet (Score:2)