EA Founder Predicts MS Purchase of Nintendo 132
New site Xbox2News.com (via Evil Avatar) has up an interview with Trip Hawkins, founder of Electronic Arts and recent AIAS inductee. During the course of the interview, he is asked what he sees as the future course for Nintendo. His answer? "My magic eight ball says they will be acquired by Microsoft within five years." Tycho has commentary on the man's forcasting abilities in today's post.
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"Now he is safely retired, the 77-year old former Nintendo boss Hiroshi Yamaushi is regaling Wired magazine about how he reverted to abuse to silence the mighty Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer.
Apparently Microsoft was making a bid to buy Nintendo for absolutely huge amounts of money. Vole was confident that Nintendo would take it. The Game Cube wasn't doing particularly well at the time and there was a lot of money involved. Ballmer himself showed up at the negotiations to have a quiet wo
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well.. (Score:3, Informative)
surely they must think that other companies do so as well and by logic microsoft is bigger than N, so they buy them.
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Well geesh... (Score:2)
Nope (Score:1)
Somebody over heard bill g saying that if nintendo called he would answer the phone.
Nothing more.
It had nothing to do with buying Nintendo. A reporter heard the word Nintendo come out of bills mouth and they blew it up into something it wasn't.
All of the major game sites already dispelled that rumor long ago.
I'll give you links if you are interested.
Re:Well geesh... (Score:2)
And, IIRC, Yamauchi's response was, with his typical flair, to tell Bill to sit on it and rotate (not in so many words, of course).
Seriously, Yamauchi may not be calling the shots any more, but he and his family still own the company (which is why the headquarters continues to technically be in Japan even though more and more of the shots are called by the Redmond office). I really don't see Nintendo
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(Side note, why not mention him as founder of 3DO instead of EA? It's more recent, and oh, yeah, out of business!
Seriously, this is the man that for years said online gaming wasn't ready for prime time, that it wasn't profitable, etc, despite the obvious successes of online games. It sucked for me, because my team working on Meridian 59 [meridian59.com] got almost no resources since online games couldn't be profitable, according to Trip's Magic 8 Ball. So, it's not a surprise that it faded into oblivion only to be resurrected by a much smaller company that cares. And has made the game profitable with few resources.
Ah, well. Hopefully one day I'll have a fluke success so people will listen to me no matter how irrelevant I become.
Have fun,
Buy vs Rent (Score:1)
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I paid $55 for Super Mario Bros 3 when it came out.
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I don't ever actually use any French, but had to learn it anyways. Damned 2 official languages... (I'm Canadian if you haven't guessed.)
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Phonics at work my friend, phonics at work.
Funny, my magic 8-ball says... (Score:5, Funny)
Lets just say (Score:1)
and have a large stake in the games market , most importantly the dominance of the mobile gameing maket. Now this may change due to the advent of the PSP ,
though as it stands now Nintendo is neigh on a monopoly in this position.
Re:Lets just say (Score:4, Informative)
Even so, Nintendo's not going anywhere. They survived major screwups in the past because they're a huge company, and remember that video games aren't their only product. Nintendo's been around since 1889, and they have a lot of power behind them.
The worst thing that I see happening to Nintendo (it's still years off if it happens, but the PSP just might be the deciding factor one way or the other) is that they'll go the way of Sega - not making systems anymore, but producing their games accross multiple other systems. They have the franchise power, and I believe they still have the genius in there somewhere to make truely new things.
Mario on the Xbox? Pokemon on the PSP? Zelda on the PC? Hell, I never thought I'd see Sonic and Mario on the same system in my lifetime, but it's happened, and I think Sega is better for it in the long run.
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It's really too bad because Sega was one of the few big companies that understood good gameplay & controls really, really well. And I love shenmue!
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Haven't played it myself, but I want to get it.
Need for Speed
Road Rash
Return Fire
Also great games. No racing game has matched the sheer fun of Need for Speed, and Return Fire is also a great game.
Space Hulk
I think this was a PC port.
Starfighter
Good game.
Wing Commander 3
Port, but it played a hell of a lot better than the PC version. Lots of FMV.
Lucienne's Quest
Haven't played it, but it was a 3DO original.
Super Street Fighter 2
Samurai Shodown
Obviously arcade ports, alt
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Space hulk vengeance of the blood angles is a 3DO original,pc psx & saturn are ports.
Snowjob is a QTVR like game.
Killing Time had FMV in the intro and the ending.No FMV during the game.
Actually I have a memory card and mpeg1 video adapter for the fz1 "two unused expansion ports"The modem,mpeg2 & M2 cards never materialized.
How can you blame Trip for:
Goldstar's rubbish game selection
Samsung barely trying
The no shows in AT
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Snowjob is a QTVR like game.
Killing Time had FMV in the intro and the ending.No FMV during the game.
Didn't know SpaceHulk was a 3DO original.
Killing Time had FMV spiced throughout the game as you completed levels and entered different rooms.
Actually I have a memory card and mpeg1 video adapter for the fz1 "two unused expansion ports"The modem,mpeg2 & M2 cards never materialized.
Ah, you're right... I forgot about
Re:3DO (Score:2)
Actually, the M2 was essentially cancelled at the last minute. There are working prototypes out there, and in fact, they're not even that hard to find. Right now there are TWO prototype M2's on eBay, and one of them has a Buy It Now of only $30. Of course, finding games and such might be a bit of a problem, but the point is that this system was almost out and had the door slammed in it's face.
Re:3DO (Score:1)
PC port. Kinda surprised it didn't also appear on a Sega system, since SC1 was ported to the Genny.
"Road Rash"
Also available on Genny.
"Space Hulk"
PC port.
"Wing Commander 3"
PC port.
"Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo"
Arcade port that had already been done to death on both the SNES and Genny.
And a lot of the other games you mentioned were also available on competitors' boxen as wel. The original PC games that were ported were also pretty damned close to being in the bargin bin
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In the case of Star Control II and Road Rash they were better than the originals.Road Rash was a Night and Day difference from the genesis version.So was John Madden football and Fifa soccer.
Space Hulk: Vengeance of the Blood Angels-
Is a 3DO original,a year later it was ported to PC,PSX and Saturn.
Some of the PC ports to 3DO were complete remakes.Super Wing Commander was a complete remake of Wing commander 1 with improved graphics and speech.
I remember playing th
Nintendo is not for Sale (Score:5, Interesting)
But they are not. They are VERY profitable. They have the BIGGEST franchizes in games. They have no reason to sell to Microsoft unless Microsoft offers ludicrous money.
Also, Nintendo isn't just video games. Pokemon anyone?
Anyway, I don't see Nintendo ever selling to anyone.
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Rob
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Square has always worked on high expense, high reward games like Final Fantasy. Their average project's cost has always been among the highest in the industry. Just a couple of games that don't sell very well sends a company like that to their knees. Nintendo, on the other hand, makes as many "surefire" low budget games as EA. How much does it really cost to make warioware?. How much for porting a random Mario game to the latest console?. Even their big budget games are not even in teh same league as a Final Fantasy games as far as project costs go.
A Nintendo bankrupcy would only happen if all of their hardware divisions fail XBOX-in-Japan style. Nintendo has some serious brand problems, but it'd take unbelieveable incompetence to make them fail in 5 years.
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Hey, Einhander was pretty cool...
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I am not sure if your opinion is particularly valid if you literally hate the genre. I merely dislike JRPGs, and even I would hestitate to decide if one was truly bad/good.
Einhander certainly isn't the best shmup out there, but it has plenty of great stuff (cool boss battles, awesome soundtrack, interesting story, nice graphics, varied gameplay system).
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Or "X-2," really, but hey, I'm willing to be conservative here.
Rob
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Additionally I think you seriously under-estimate the actual cost of Nintendo-developed games - whereas Square spend their time on content Nintendo spends their time on the play experience/game mechanics. Most of their major games are in development for 2-3 years with decent sized teams working on them -
Re:Nintendo is not for Sale (Score:2)
As a person who typically dislikes traditional RPGs, there was a time I would have agreed with you. But Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced and Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles (played with 4 friends) dropped the traditional "eye-candy" cutscenes and showed they can make very engaging gameplay.
I have a very
Nintendo Ain't Goin' Nowhere (Score:5, Insightful)
Nintendo, on the other hand, does more than just make their games; they handle all the other aspects. They handle their own distribution. They have a tremendous amount of capital saved up for investing on game production. They make their own console and portable systems. And then there's Nintendo's other side markets like Pokemon cards and such.
Square made a huge gamble on borrowing all that money for the Honolulu studios that made FF: The Spirits Within. The odds didn't turn out in their favor and eventually they had to sell that studio. Mostly like they mergered with Square-Enix for a major capital boost.
Nintendo on the other hand would have to make a really huge investment to put them in the trouble that Square got in. And given Nintendo's past conservative tendencies I don't think they're going to do this anytime soon. They're going to keep playing it safe for quite sometime into future. And it's going to keep earning them money.
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You forget that Bill Gates is one of a handfull of people who have a Ludicrous Dollar Bill.
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The guy is an idiot (Score:5, Insightful)
He doesn't know what HD-DVD or Bluray is! He doesn't understand the question!
With regards to his Nintendo prediction, apparently no-one's told him that Ninty has been profitable for 43 years straight, and have something like $8 billion in the bank. Why the hell would they want to sell to Microsoft?
Obvious! (Score:3, Funny)
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I suggest a move to Walla Walla.
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These companies can't figure out why people adopt new infintesimally better tech, they assume we are using the multiple angles feature.
In football that would be very useful I imagine.
The preceding was brought to you by a devil's advocate, I don't think Nintendo will be puchased, except maybe by sony.
Nintendo is attitude American ownership would FS*C it in the $%%.
Re:The guy is an idiot (Score:2)
This Hawkins guy is obviously out to lunch.
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Firstly, by your logic, since CD's are designed to carry Audio content, therefore I only need a CD drive in my PC to install audio applications, such as itunes.
But never mind that, what you interpret him as meaning is that you only need HD-DVD for software if that software is trying to product output at HD-TV resolutions, because in order for software to put such an insane ammount of information on screen you'll need gigs and gigs of textures and data.
Se
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They're designed for high definition DVD MOVIES. You can store a high definition video game on anything. In fact, most existing games on DVD-or-equivalent would look great if they were rendered in higher resolution. The reason that they're not in HD is because the console doesn't support it, not because they don't have enough storage.
In other words, Hawkins hears "HD-DVD" and thinks "allows HD display modes" instead of "greater stora
American Purchase? (Score:4, Insightful)
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What has Rare produced for MS since then? Absolutely nothing.
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How long... (Score:3, Funny)
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Discovery of the long lost 3rd Mario Bro. Clippy?
after completing the first level (Score:5, Funny)
"Thank you, Mario, but your spyware is in another directory!"
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MSFT & Acquisitions (Score:4, Interesting)
Given their management's emphasis on employee culture, deciding to merge with an organization as large as Nintendo would be a real surprise.
Re:MSFT & Acquisitions (Score:2)
You're right, MS has never taken an aquisition like that... that'd be half their short term investments and cash reserves right there. A few million dollars here and there to buy out a company (or a few hundred million in some cases) is much easier on the reserves than $25 billion is.
"Hey, Ballmer.. Why don't"... (Score:3, Informative)
http://www.gamerah.com/ver_imagen.php?id=226 [gamerah.com]
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=20547 [theinquirer.net]
Re:"Hey, Ballmer.. Why don't"... (Score:4, Informative)
Or you could, you know, go straight to the supposed source [wired.com] (Wired Magazine, Feb. 2005 issue), and see that it's not listed anywhere.
Makes You Go Hmmmm Awwwwk! (Score:2)
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That would be the last straw (Score:3, Funny)
Goddamnit, does their douchebaggery have no limits?
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Regardless of the probability, I would be angry if such a condition (i.e., the aquisition) were satisfied; but since it has not, I am not currently going ballistic.
My prediction (Score:2)
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Crazy Talk (Score:2)
Worst case scenario for Nintendo. They lose all market share in both the console and handheld markets. If this happened, they'd start releasing their games for other system. My guess is if they starting releasing games on the PS2, they'd probably jump right to the top of the most successful game publishers.
This isn't the first time I heard this (Score:1)
Ok. lets talk facts (Score:2)
MS has a good cover of the adult/young adult target, has a strong online service and the hardware is probably the most featured rich in the market however it has failed to penetrate the japanese market and (with certain huge exceptions) doesnt have good 1st party titles.
Nintendo is completely in the other side of the spectre, his target centers in the children/family targ
Sony is more likely (Score:2)
MS + Nintendo = ... (Score:3, Funny)
There have been rumors about MS & japan for ye (Score:2)
Buying some japanese companies to gain a foothold in the japanese market makes sense for Microsoft (only if they are sucessfull companies obviously).
But, given the way the japanese system works, its unlikely that the other players in the japanese market would sit by and let Microsoft (a big foriegn company) buy a well-known
The Great Subdivision? And a Coughdrop? (Score:2)
About the rushed Xbox 2-before-others, I remember two systems that did that (*cough* Saturn *cough* Dreamcast *cough*). Both systems were superior in everyway, but early release meant more expensive hardware and greater initial loss. By the time the costs caught up, the other systems were ou
Re:The Great Subdivision? And a Coughdrop? (Score:2)
The entire 8 ball prediction (Score:2)
However 1 1/2 year later the rest of the giant asteroid hits Japan without warning, most of Japan is destroyed forcing Japaneses to move to France, most companies get bought by EA (since France is EA's property now) and most Japanese become employees as soon as they land. Sony president dies and Nintendo'
MS tried to buy Nintendo before (Score:1)
Re:Ha (Score:2, Informative)
Sure, they're relatively minor stakes, and Nintendo isn't a struggling automaker, but an American firm buying a Japanese one isn't so unrealistic.
Re:Prediction? More like wishful thinking. (Score:1)
But that strategy served Acclaim so well!