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PlayStation 3 Pricing Revealed? 187

Posted by Zonk from the that's-a-lot-of-yen dept.
Jakhel writes "IGN has up an article on PS3 pricing information. Apparently it comes straight from Sony officials. From the article: 'According an article published in the May 17th edition of Japan's Mainichi Shimbun, the PlayStation 3 could be one of the most expensive mass-market videogame consoles ever created. Officials from Sony apparently told the newspaper that PlayStation 3s would sell in Japan for "less than 50,000 yen each." That translates to about $465 US dollars.' So I guess they will be around $464.99 in the U.S. (plus tax of course). Granted, it does come with DVD Hi Def support out of the box, but is that enough to justify it's nearly $500 pricetag?" Commentary on this development available at GamesIndustry.biz as well.
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  • Bargain (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Satertek ( 708058 ) <brian@satertek.info> on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:19PM (#12567545) Homepage
    Judging based on processing power, thats a bargain. It would cost in excess of $2,000 to get a comperable PC system. (Which don't even exist yet)

    The "mainstream" console players, however, may find it harder to justify the higher price tag. Especially if the XBox 360 retails for a couple hundred less.

    • Re:Bargain (Score:4, Insightful)

      by ultramk ( 470198 ) <ultramk@noSPAm.pacbell.net> on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @01:00PM (#12568048)
      Judging based on processing power, thats a bargain. It would cost in excess of $2,000 to get a comperable PC system. (Which don't even exist yet)

      Of course, a finished, working PS3 doesn't exist now either. In a year and a half, who knows?
      m-
    • This was the first thing I thought. Even by the time its released next spring, it will be a bargain compared to general-purpose computers of comparable power.

      I, for one, will buy at least one of these...
    • I would pay that much money if it lets me stream divx/xvid from my home PC and I can surf the web with the damn thing openly (unlike PSP hack). If I can record live TV with it even better (doubt it though).

      Everything else is already peachy with me. Can't wait for Warhawk and God of War II!

  • Probably Still Worth It. (Score:5, Interesting)

    by xombo ( 628858 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:19PM (#12567547)
    I'm sad to say that even with a $150 price difference than the expected price of the Xbox 360, the PS3 sounds to be a lot more bang for the buck. It's like comparing the DS to the PSP. I've owned both and frankly I wish I'd of saved my $150 from the DS to buy more PSP games.
    • More bang for the buck eh? Besides Blu-Ray, what exactly is the PS3 going to have that's not going to be in the XB360?

    • Re:Probably Still Worth It. (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Rayonic ( 462789 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @01:16PM (#12568262) Homepage Journal
      the PS3 sounds to be a lot more bang for the buck

      From the specs released, the Xbox360 and PS3 sound kinda the same for now. You've got to understand that Sony has a history of severely over-hyping the power of their upcoming console. Furthermore, until we see more detailed specs, we're not sure what bottlenecks might arise in the PS3's architecture.
      • The bottleneck in the PS2 architecture is quite easy to point out: it has no GPU, only a very primitive "Graphic Synthesizer", which simply accellerates some raster ops on a framebuffer. Even then it STILL manages to hold nearly even with the XBox, even with half the RAM and a slower CPU (though with a 128 bit bus that could have made up for it).

        I have no doubt that Sony has greatly overhyped the PS3, and that the two consoles are quite close in real world performance. However, Sony has certainly removed
        • Even then it STILL manages to hold nearly even with the XBox, even with half the RAM and a slower CPU (though with a 128 bit bus that could have made up for it).

          You're kidding right? Have you looked at an xbox and ps2 game side by side? There is a huge difference in the detail each machine is capable of rendering, and the ps2 does NOT come out on top ...
          • Geez, the fanboys are just popping out of the woodwork. I said "nearly even". The Xbox is clearly better, yes, and when it comes to HDTV output, the PS2 doesn't even play. However, it manages for the most part to hold its own, sometimes barely, even with the older tech, for games like GT4.
            • Fanboy my ass...you said that they were nearly equal, which is clearly not the case.

              GT4 was a huge disappointment for me. It was GT3 with more cars (where "more cars" is mostly "a version of a different car with a different paint scheme"). There was no remarkable improvement on any aspect of the game (physics, graphics, multiplayer, or sound). Unless you're referring to the "picture mode", in which case I'd hardly use that as a basis of comparison.

              That being said, it is still a good game (the Grand Tou
      • The specs I saw claiming 2 tflop (!?) per PS3 are just a tad over the top. They're essentially making the claim that they can deliver the equivilant of a $3 mil super computer I manage for what, $2.5k?

        Three orders of magnitude less expensive in two years? I don't think so. Processors don't move that fast. I could maybe see 20 gflop but even that's pushing it.
        • Most of your high end graphics cards run something along those lines. But one must realized they are graphics cards designed to preform very specific task. Its quite possible though that if PS3 uses a small enough instruction set this might be possible. Such would reduce the effectivness of each instruction obviously meaning real world preformace would be significantly slower.
        • I'd be interested in seeing the math on this one, to be honest. Notice how Sony have quoted numbers on absolutely everything, except the number of pixel/vertex pipelines on the GPU. Perhaps that's because that particular number isn't really any better than the Xbox 360?

          And yet, they're claiming their GPU pumps out twice the floating point performance of the Xbox 360 GPU (if you work backwards from their claims for total system performance). The clock rate of the two GPU is pretty close (500MHz vs. 600MHz),
        • Then you should know that flops are not good indicators of raw performance. If I remember correctly, the way that one calculates flops is by running an application that makes a preset number of floating point operations of varying types, timing it, and then dividing appropriately to get an average of sorts.

          However, you can skew the results very easily by taking a sample of small flop count processes, or by skewing the types of floating point operations to ones that don't take as long, making the average
      • Overhyping indeed: Sony claims that PS3 will be roughly 35 times more powerful than PS2.

        I don't think we're able to sense how powerful the PS2 is. We'll notice some improvement with PS3 (mostly graphics), but there's no way we'll realize the actual improvement. Ports and developer kits will probably not use the increased power for first generation games. Full potential is always greater than realized potential.
      • It's not just about the graphical power tho (admittedly, that's what will get the most attention). PS3 has better compatibility with memory cards, WiFi built in, bluetooth controllers (so you can have wireless keyboards and not just the USB), HDMI outputs (2 at that), etc. These are all out of the box and immediately noticable even if you don't use them. The only thing missing is the HDD.

        It just seems that the Xbox 360 is an evolutionary upgrade, which is perfectly fine since the Xbox still could have h
    • Even if it is worth is I wonder if Sony is shooting themselves in the foot.

      Half the market for video games are children and teenagers who depend on their parents to buy them this. I'd spend up to about $200 on a console for the family and that's about it... I don't care how powerful it is or how much my kids want it, $200 is my limit.

      A big part of that limit is the cost of games. If they want to make the console more expensive fine, but the only way to win me back would be to lower the price of the games.

      • If they want to make the console more expensive fine, but the only way to win me back would be to lower the price of the games....

        Sadly, the price of a console and the price of games for it are fairly directly related. If the console costs more, it follows that it should be more powerful, so the games for it probably cost more to make than they would on a lower-end console. This cost is, of course, made up for by charging more for the game.

  • less than 50,000 yen (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Naikrovek ( 667 ) <jjohnson@ps g . com> on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:19PM (#12567550)
    that means LESS than $465. It is probably just someone saying the equivalent of "my car cost less than $100k." True statement, vague though.

    I don't expect to see the PS3 come down at $450. If I were a betting man I'd say $299.

    • Re:less than 50,000 yen (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Daetrin ( 576516 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:32PM (#12567705)
      that means LESS than $465. It is probably just someone saying the equivalent of "my car cost less than $100k." True statement, vague though.

      I don't expect to see the PS3 come down at $450. If I were a betting man I'd say $299.

      This is elementary marketing, you _must_ have run into it before. When touting your own product you want to make it seem as cheap as possible, so you pick how much it costs (or how much you think it will cost) add a tiny increment, and say it costs less than that.

      If a store advertises that they have something for "less than $10" you can be pretty sure it will cost $9.99. That's certainly what a "betting man" would go with. Also note that there is a certain amount of psychology in the "look" of the price. Subtracting one cent has a greater psychological effect than the actual price difference merits, especially when you you're talking about a psychologically significant barrier such as $1, $10, $100 or $1000, and to a lesser extent $5, $25, $50, and any other multiple of 10 or 100.

      If Sony _knew_ they were going to sell it at $299 they would be saying "less than $300" (or whatever the yen equivalent of that is.) The fact that they're not saying that indicates they think there is a reasonably strong possibility that it will cost more than that.

      • yes i've run into it before. thank you for assuming i'm a moron. really appreciate that.

        but i'm saying that this is probably a quote from someone that isn't authorized to mention a price saying something obvious. less than $465.

        when someone asks me something that is covered under an NDA i always exaggerate and say its less than that. "how many networks do you peer with" was a question I got very often in previous jobs, and my answer was always "less than a thousand".

        get it now? i'm betting that this
        • Well than next time say _that_ rather than "less than 50,000 yen that means LESS than $465," (which is an obvious but completly meaningless statement when dealing with marketing speak) and then stating you think that means it will go for $299 with nothing else to back it up. All anyone can reply to is what you actually say.

          i'm betting that this quote is by someone that isn't authorized to say anything.

          Now that i'm doubtful of. I don't think officials from Sony would be giving interviews to newspapers w

      • There's also a time honored marketing tradition of making your device seem like it's worth a ton more than it is by saying things like "there's $1000 worth of computing power in there," etc... So that when it hits the market and only costs $350 everybody thinks they're getting a bargain.

        If Sony knew it were going to sell for $299, they sure as hell wouldn't let anybody know that this early.

      • Re:less than 50,000 yen (Score:2, Insightful)

        by bluk ( 791364 )
        I wouldn't bet against Sony that they will play every trick in the book to beat MSFT's price. They could just be suggesting a high price so that MSFT slaps a $400 price tag and they sweep in for $350 or so. Sony has done all sorts of pricing and hype games before, and so far, they've won.
        • They could just be suggesting a high price so that MSFT slaps a $400 price tag and they sweep in for $350 or so

          I don't see how Sony could maneuver MSFT here. Remember that the XBox 360 will be out for a few months to a year before the PS3 or Nintendo's box. So MSFT will have no competition during this interval, and they can sell the product at whatever price they want. If Sony leaks a price of $500, MSFT can set the initial price to $499 and, when the PS3 finally comes out, cut the price to match Sony's.
      • This is elementary marketing, you _must_ have run into it before. When touting your own product you want to make it seem as cheap as possible, so you pick how much it costs (or how much you think it will cost) add a tiny increment, and say it costs less than that...If Sony _knew_ they were going to sell it at $299 they would be saying "less than $300" (or whatever the yen equivalent of that is.) The fact that they're not saying that indicates they think there is a reasonably strong possibility that it will

    • Re:less than 50,000 yen (Score:4, Insightful)

      by badasscat ( 563442 ) <basscadet75@NOspAm.yahoo.com> on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:41PM (#12567806)
      that means LESS than $465. It is probably just someone saying the equivalent of "my car cost less than $100k." True statement, vague though.

      I was going to post this exact thing - the fact is Sony probably doesn't know what the pricing is going to be yet. But there is an obvious ceiling that they can point to and say "we're pretty confident we can bring the costs in below this number". That doesn't mean they won't be able to bring them down even further, and it doesn't mean they won't choose to sell the system at even more of a loss in a grab for market share.

      We don't know the original context for this. (As a side note, I don't know why the blurb here links to IGN - the official translation of the original article is on the Mainichi web site here [mainichi.co.jp], if you want to see the source for this.) We don't know what was said in the original Japanese interview (there's no actual quote here, it's all paraphrased) and we don't know what question was asked of Sony. It could have been something like "how much would you need to sell a PS3 for to turn a profit?" for all we know.

      My guess is the PS3 will be priced to compete with the Xbox 360; whatever the Xbox is at, the PS3 will be at.

      Also keep in mind that pricing in Japan and the US rarely correlates directly on game consoles. The disconnect can be upwards of $100 in some cases.
  • There is no way to justify paying that much money. I'll just wait a year or two.

    • Re:No (Score:1)

      by KrisW ( 613034 )
      Yeah, that's what I do whenever I buy a console anyway. At least it's good to know that PS2 games will continue to come out for quite a while.
    • That's too much for a game console, but the PS3 is going to be more. What are those 3 gigabit ethernet ports for? The two 1080p outputs? 6 usb ports + SD + compact flash, etc. With the right software, this thing will do some great tricks.

  • Heh. (Score:2)

    by schild ( 713993 )
    If it comes out for more than $400, I'd be surprised. They need to be more competitive with the 360. I don't mean that in a nice way. This is a 1 on 1 battle all the way, the Revolution is merely a supplemental gaming platform. Sony simply has to shoot for the moon on the price and only be marginally higher than the 360, no matter how much they lose per unit.
    • I was guessing that they both would be around 499.00. With the hardware they have, I dont see how they could sell them at a 299.00 pricetag. You can only take so much a hit on hardware. I would assume that they would market these as "multimedia" machines very heavily. So parents get the illusion that they would use these things for more than video games. Im sure the usual "family photos / pictures, mp3, HD " will be the words they use to justify the higher price.
      • My prediction: MSFT will sell the XBox360 for the introductory price of...

        $360

        It's slightly more than the reasonable rollout price of $299 that we've seen on XBox/PS2 previously, and sticks below the weird $400 price for a "dedicated gaming machine" that a lot of early adopters and parents of spoiled kids may balk at.

    • I think they have to be even more competitive if they release in spring...Xbox will sell if for no reason then "its the only new system out for christmas". Though that certainly hasn't meant that PSP's arn't selling as well as DS's this year...

      I think Sony CAN charge more because of the HD DVD. I won't spend $400 for a pure gaming system when the graphics of my current Xbox are still fine....but I was planning on getting an HD DVD anyways, so $400 for a HD DVD plus a kickass gaming system isn't such a b

    • Re:Heh. (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Darth_Burrito ( 227272 )
      I agree with you. The dollar is weak right now so I would take any literal currency translations with a grain of salt. In January 2003, the exchange rate [x-rates.com] was 120 Yen to 1 Dollar. May 1st it was 105 Yen to the dollar. Using the 2003 conversion rate, the PS3 would be about $400.

      How this works into the PS3's US based pricing strategy is anyone's guess, but I wouldn't just take a price in Yen, convert it, and assume that will be the price in dollars.
    • That's why they lost a couple of billion dollars. Sony deals in volume, so losing $100/unit on 50 million consoles ($5 billion) is not going to happen. No matter what you hear, nobody sells consoles for a loss (unless it's just a few cents from distribution) except MS. At $5/game royalty, that's REAL hard to make up. (MS lost $35 per unit initially, and they were not selling 7 games per system to make it up.
  • Didn't the PS2 have a hefty initial pricing to only be lowered drastically soon after? (I could be wrong, I'm not a big gamer).
    • This is the case with all platforms. It's not a question of whether or not the price will drop, it is a question of how fast will it drop.
    • It wasn't exactly soon after....if i remember I think it started at $300, then a year later went to $250, then $200, now $150. I bet Sony also admired their pricing for the PSP and will call the original PS3 a "value pack" with a bunch of worthless crap, and then a year later come out with the "regular" for a hundred less.

  • Price Match (Score:4, Insightful)

    by cainpitt ( 682782 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:34PM (#12567724)
    Sony will match wahtever the Xbox comes out for. Both M$ and Sony have bottomless pits of money so they don't mind taking a hit on the harware. The problem for Sony may be when the PS3 come out at the same price as the Xbox and M$ slashes the price a week later just to stick it up Sony's ass. Either way, mass market consoles are not going to sell for more than $400. and even $400 is a lot for little johnny to hit his parents up for. It's going to be interesting.
    • Sony will match wahtever the Xbox comes out for.

      I actually wouldn't be shocked if Sony decided to use a price point just slightly higher than whatever Microsoft picks, at least at first, with a rather justified "and worth every penny" mentality. "You're getting a Blu-ray player as well", that sort of thing... extra network ports, all that. "Factor in the cost of a Blu-ray player, router, and the fact that it simply has better graphics, it's worth more than the XBox360". Also expect typical Sony 'bargain bu

    • In business there's a concept called "Price Signaling", considering that both the Xbox360 and the PS3 will be "home entertainment hubs", count on them setting the tone of the price to minimize the loss in the hardware. I would not be surprised if Microsoft starts at $449 and Sony follows suit. In the early adopter phase those systems are more a "fashion thing" value-added than the entertainment provided by first generation games.
  • IIRC, the PSP costs significantly more than it should if you just convert currency, so maybe the PS3 will be more

    on the other hand, they have made a lot of money on the sale of the PSP unit, so they can afford to loose money on the PS3. Considering Sony's game library size, it would probably be a good idea
  • Last time I checked, the standard for the media wasnt passed yet. How are they pulling this off and what will I do with this box once there is a standard?
    • Not only that, but the two standards that were thinking about merging had a recent setback [macobserver.com] when Toshiba pulled back a little bit from the talks.

      I can't imagine that it would be that big a deal to switch out the drive from true Blue-Ray to whatever the new standard would be before the PS3s ship. Costly, certainly. Maybe requiring a small programming change on the PS3 motherboard. But other than that...

    • If there are HD BluRay DVD disks out for it, I'd be tempted to pay a bit extra to get a BluRay player. But I'll have to be convinced that it is a good player. I was encouraged to buy the PS2 early because it had a DVD player, only to discover that its DVD player was really crappy. Once burned, twice shy.
  • Perhaps the high price tag will make parents realize that the $600-ish (CDN) would be better spent perhaps getting their kids sport equipment or even just getting them outside.

    Parent 1: "Oh yeah? Well, my $600 bought my kid an extra 100Kg! Can you beat that?"
    Parent 2: "Aww hell, I could only afford a $20 NES system that he doesn't even play. He's lost 60Kg just by playing outside! Its awful!"

    • Re:Force parents to let their kids out? (Score:4, Insightful)

      by chman ( 746363 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @12:45PM (#12567846)
      What makes you think the kids will be buying these systems? There may well be a 360 under the Christmas tree this year, but these days it's more likely that Santa left it for Daddy and not Little Timmy.

    • Re:Force parents to let their kids out? (Score:1, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward
      I don't know if you realise, but a console is the way for a parent to bond with their kids (if they're into videogames that is) ; As opposed to the PC which most of the times is thrown in the back of the room, and only serves mostly single player games (excluding internet multiplayer).

      While you may have a point of people/kids getting less excersise nowadays, it doesn't exclude having videogames in there.

  • ...either this is solely hype building. ie sony - "its gonna cost a billion dollars, and will eb a million times better than anything ever before" and so the consumer gets hyped for it, then when they actually sell it at £349 everyone goes out and buys this bargain. The other possibility is that it will retail at around this price, and sony will expect the playstation brand to carry it, which it probably will. (goes and pre-orders a revolution)

  • No (Score:1)

    by kutsu119 ( 883719 )
    No way would I afford that. I earn a decent wage, have a decent amount of disposable income, but with a family, I can't really justify that sort of money, BEFORE SPENDING ON GAMES, for a hobby I can only do for a few hours a week.
  • Yes, its worth that much. It appears as if the PS3 will be much more than a videogame console. It will allow burning DVDs, let me access the Internet while I'm playing a game, play video and audio over the network, and more (or so I've heard.)

    Perhaps they will have a stripped down games-only version later.
  • The PSP costs $100 more than a Nintendo DS. I will not be to suprised if the PS3 costs more than the XBOX even $150 more. You do get more power and features, so it will not be a suprise to pay extra for it.

    I would also imagine that the next Nintendo will be less expensive than the other 2 systems.
  • The pricing of the Xbox and PS3 are going to be very high, and the intended audience (which were the 20 somethings last round) are now all 5 years older, probably have families now (amazing even gamers manage to procreate), and are not going to have the time or money to splurge on these consoles. What will happen, is that they will grab a revolution for a more normal price, a couple new titles, and download a few oldies and enjoy gaming again.

    After covering videogame news for years I know this all to well,
    • "After covering videogame news for years I know this all to well"

      You think sales are going to dwindle because you and your friends are getting older? That would probably be true if no children where born after you and your friends. That is not how it works however, and the population continues to grow (albiet slowly now in the states). That only means that the market is growing, (past customers plus new customers coming into the age group). I think that you will be surprised if you look at the real nu
      • Did you even read my post? I quite clearly understand this and stated that new 18-23 year olds will eat these new systems up. I have been in this business a long time and am quite clear on the market dynamics. My main point being that the target audience for the XBOX and PS2 are NO LONGER the target audience because we have aged, this is the first time that the gamers who started with the Atari or NES are now out of the target range!

        Making the systems into media consoles and upping the price to appeal to u
        • I still disagree with you, respectfully. I think possibly your perspective is different.

          "My main point being that the target audience for the XBOX and PS2 are NO LONGER the target audience"

          That statement seems to say that you think they are trying to sell to the wrong group now. The truth is that you moved out of that group by aging. They aren't targeting you any more, at least with the diligence that they did when you were in that age group. Perhaps we are saying the same thing, but your choice o
          • OK, one last time. I FULLY UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NEW 18-23 YEAR OLDS... get it? What I'm saying is the new breed of 18-23 are not the same as the previous ones, the previous target audience are the true hardcore gamers that grew up with the rise of videogaming and are able to remember the Konami code by heart, or a time without the internet. While there is a new group of 18-23 they are not as true to gaming, they are just as (if not more) interested in cell phones and iPods as in gaming.

            My age group should
    • I can't pretend that my and my friend's personal experience proves a general rule, but being the same boat (and most of us having all three consoles) we're looking at the new consoles this way: We play regularly on Live, so we're likely all to get the Xbox 360. The Playstation 3 is looking extremely impressive (in terms of hardware and software support), and with the Blu-Ray drive/HD support, like a good way to upgrade to that kind of equipment, so we're likely all to get that console as well. We barely

  • Ill pass for now (Score:3, Insightful)

    by FidelCatsro ( 861135 ) <fidelcatsro&gmail,com> on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @01:33PM (#12568463) Journal
    I think i will wait till 2007 to get my next gen consoles and probably get all 3 for around 500 with free games.

    Its never a good idea to buy them when they are first out as within 6 months normaly the price will half.
    • Its never a good idea to buy them when they are first out as within 6 months normaly the price will half.

      That's a huge exaggeration. The GameCube dropped to $100 on September 25th, 2003, the Xbox hit $150 on March 29th, 2004, and the PlayStation 2 waited till May 11th, 2004. So roughly 2 to 4 years, not within 6 months.
  • If Sony really wants to eat everyone for lunch, they'll use these extra few months after the XBox comes out to polish up an emulation layer so they can charge more for the machine because it'll do double duty. Play XBox and XBox 360 games as well as all the PS, PSII, and PSIII games on one box *and* play HD-DVDs. Throw in gamestation compatability and they could shut everyone else down.

    Yes, I've read through the specs. It would be difficult - not impossible - but very, very difficult to emulate the XBox 360 on the PS3 with an acceptable quality.

    But imagine the rewards of doing so...

    </pipedream>

    Note: It may be impossible to do in a practical time frame and amount of resources, but I still claim it's possible. I doubt the inverse is possible - the XBox 360 playing PS3 games.

    -Adam
  • Okay, start starving, cut food money and save it in the bank. Eventually you'll reach that amount by the time PS3 comes out.

    On the plus side, you'll lose weight before you gain even more.

  • $500 in Tokyo... (Score:3, Funny)

    by clambake ( 37702 ) on Wednesday May 18, 2005 @01:47PM (#12568643) Homepage
    So, what, a movie, nice dinner and a love hotel then? Yeah, I think people over here can afford it.
  • Nobody cares that much about the falling US dollar, until they need more and more of them to buy a playstation...

    That's where I draw the line. Get Greenspan on the phone!

    =P

    e.
  • The 3do was $700 US when it wa first launched. Adjusted for inflation, it has an even higher price. From Answeres.com, "the 3DO console itself was priced at $700." - http://www.answers.com/topic/the-3do-company-1/ [answers.com]
  • Who cares if it costs 50,000 yen? Who cares if that's the same as $450? That doesn't mean anything compared to what it'll cost in the United States, because our economics are not their economics.

    The average price of an 1100 square foot home in Japan is over $350,000.

    The average price of an 1100 square foot home in the United States is a shade over $210,000.

    That suggests that prices in Japan are about 166% higher than those in America. What happens if you take the $300 price tag of the PS2 and add

  • They are just pushing that edge more and more. $450 bucks seems like a lot for a game system but I remember buying my NES for $199 and Genesis for $299 when they came out. When the Atari came out it was around $199 and after adjusting for inflation that made the value of the Atari (in todays money) like spending around $500 bucks back in 1980.
    BR> People will still get it. They hope it wont cost that much but if it does they'll pay for it one way or another.
  • Personally, I hope the model that was displayed at E3 is the "Server" edition of the PS3. I remember reading a rumor awhile back that Sony planned on releasing two versions of the PS3, "client" and "Server".

    The Client was supposed to be the bare bones game console. And the Server was supposed to be this uber media hub. I cringe at the thought of paying $500 for a gaming system. And I don't think Sony has done a good enough job to convice people that their next system can be more than just a gaming and
  • The laser lens had better not crack from overheating, I better not have to update any drivers, and by God the square button had better work.

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