State Of The Handheld Industry 2005 68
Jack writes "The State of the Handheld Industry 2005 is back. The yearly feature includes roundtables with journalists and handheld developers. A report by GCAdvanced indicates that this year it is a 4-day feature at Nintendo Insider. The developer roundtable is already up. It talks about not only the GBA, DS, and PSP, but the Gizmondo, N-Gage, and mobile phone gaming. GCAdvanced also reports there is an interview with Nintendo's Perrin Kaplan. Although she seems to dodge some questions, it gives new information about the Game Boy Micro faceplates and Nintendo DS online with the Wi-Fi connection." To provide some first hand opinions, The Game Chair has a piece on the meaning behind handheld gaming.
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Good thing there isn't a portable Linux machine, man that thing would have to have a 101 key keyboard. =)
This joke's easy to make.
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However...that trampoline mini-game on Mario DS almost makes me want to buy one
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(I would say the GBA , but since the DS has all the advantages (bar of course the old GB compat) of the GBA i am smitten
I also own a PSP i imported from japan(which i do also love , but it has functioned as a mobile simpsons episode viewer more than a game console(though Metal gear acid rules and im awaiting GTA VSC stories))
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Re:The state is bleak (Score:1, Interesting)
What is really holding back both systems right now is that there are dramatically less games being made for them due to the larger cost of development; the Gameboy and Gameboy advance could have a development team of 4-12 people, the PSP in comparison is 20-40 people.
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Nintendogs is a killer app (Score:5, Insightful)
You may not think that Nintendogs is a killer app. That's because you're a gamer. Nintendogs is aimed at non-gamers, and in Japan, it's definitely moving loads of DS consoles [spong.com]. Nintendogs is very much a killer app for the DS, because it makes non-gamers and casual gamers buy consoles.
If you think Nintendogs is not a killer app, you're fooling yourself. It may not be a hit among traditional gamers, but it's definitely shifting DS boxes in huge numbers [slashdot.org].
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On the other hand, Meteos (from the maker of Lumines!) IS a killer app (game) for the DS. Play it for 5 minutes, and you will hopefully agree.
It's special since it's gameplay cannot be done on any other system due to its' use of the touch screen (except maybe on a pocket PC?)
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I can't speak for the PSP here, but I've dropped my DS off a 6' dresser, ejecting the cartridge, and it's no worse for wear, save for a small nick on the outer casing. I've been carrying it around with me for the past month, and it's continued to function as well as it always has. The DS is hardly "delicate".
As for the games, they're coming. If you remember, the GBA had a pretty lackluster launch as well, but its backward compatibility helpe
Re:The state is bleak (Score:3, Insightful)
Put a GBA and either a PSP or DS up against each other and see which one lasts. Your a fool to think either new portable is more durable. Hinges, large screens, delicate optical drives, yeah I must be crazy to think the way I do.
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That's the point of the clamshell design. To keep the innards protected. I'm not sure what you expect out of a system. Should I be able to run it under a train with no damage? Unless you routinely drop your personal electronics from high office buildings, the DS should hold up fine.
"Put a GBA and either a PSP or DS up against each other and see which one lasts."
A closed DS could easily outlast the ori
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Not in Japan, [the-magicbox.com] where the DS and PSP are each outselling the GBA by a factor of about 3:1. I imagine the same thing will begin in America once some decent games are released.
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Yeah, everyone will want one once (and if) solid titles begin to appear. No shit. TFA was about the CURRENT state of handhelds, and the current state is bleak. Small libraries, no killer apps, and some other assorted issues. Who would even argue this or claim it to be flamebait?
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I'll agree w/ you that the DS doesn't have a killer app yet. WarioWare was fun, yet short, SM64 was fun too, yet a remake, and nothing else I've seen really looks worth it yet, though there's a lot of games coming out that look really really good. Metri
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Well, a few points:
1. It is a killer app in Japan, so Nintendo has to say mission accomplished even if it isn't successful in the US. Sure, they may still need to find their American killer app, but it's still important to the DS's success anyway.
2. I don't see how you can say, "it's not a game." Is the Sims not a game? Is Creatures not a game? It's a game, it's not your cup of tea is all.
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I'm totally addicted to it now and I do not understand why Lumines is so much more well known? Maybe because Lumines was the only good game available during the PSP's launch.
I own Mario DS, Warioware, Yoshi Touch & Go, and Meteos, and Meteos is by FAR the best game out there. It's totally amazing. I even got my girlfriend into Meteos, I borrowed my brother's DS and the two of us played single cartridge multiplayer for
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I'm sure you're not too - I was happy with my GBA SP for a while, and couldn't see how the DS (particularly the touchscreen) was so great.
Then I found one on special and picked it up just to see what it was like. Answer: fantastic. The touchscreen really is a neat way to play some of these games, and really does bring about some new ways of playing.
IMHO, the physical styling of the device leaves a bit to be desired - it looks kinda clunky. More than made-up-for by
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PDAs? (Score:2)
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http://www.tapwave.com/zodiac_overview.html [tapwave.com]
2: LINUX IS COMING TO PALM OS!!!
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Handheld gaming's future never looked brighter (Score:4, Interesting)
Personally, I really don't like the PSP (it's just an expensive portable PS2 for the most part), but I can see the advantages that it brings. The graphics on the GameBoy have never been all that great. Many games have looked good despite the GB or GBA's inability to throw out high polygon counts. The PSP makes 3D gaming possible on a handheld in ways that it has never been before. However, it seems as though most companies are intent on throwing rehashes of PS2 games on it. I really haven't seen any originality on the system. It has a lot of potential, but right now it seems a lot of that potential is being wasted. The only reason I'd buy one is Lumines, but I'm not paying almost $300 for the experience.
The DS on the other hand is really an odd duck. Like the PSP there is a lot of untapped potential on the system that's going to waste. However after playing games like Kirby's Canvas Curse, I've been blown away by some of the possibilities of the system. The DS is just begging people to think outside of the box and come up with something new and innovative.
The most important thing though, is that consumers have a choice in what type of gaming philosophy they want to subscribe to. You can buy into the innovation and new style of gaming brought about by the DS, or you can get the mainstream rich-graphic games that the PSP has to offer. No matter what your preference is, consumers have more of a choice now.
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It's also coming down to what you expect your system to do...is just playing games good enough, or do you need it to play movies, music, etc.
This was, o
Then buy your self an f*ing laptop. (Score:1)
oh really? so when you build a new computer do you buy an all in one motherboard or do you buy a seperate video card, sound card and network card?
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Warning: article might be just a tad biased. (Score:3, Insightful)
Yeah, that sounds totally unbiased to me.
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Nintendo Insider itself hasn't actually written any of the content so far. Day 1 was an interview with several developers in the handheld sector, and it was pretty evenly matched between PSP/DS developers.
Day 2 was an interview with a Nintendo executive, but it's pretty obvious what sort of bias she might have.
Day 3 is an interview with eight gaming journalists, and again, they'r
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My favourite interviewee was David Thomas of the Denver Post as he quite openly admitted that most journalists were seduced by the shiny PSP and hyped it massively without bothering to look at the quality of the g
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Will people buy a PSP solely for watching movies? (Score:3, Interesting)
On page three of the developer roundtable, there's a question asking whether the developers think that the non-gaming features of the PSP could eat into game sales. Almost all interviewees seem to think that the opposite is true: People will buy the PSP for watching UMD movies and then discover that it can play games, too, thereby bringing in new gamers.
I think this is a bit delusional, but I'm wondering: Has anyone of you bought a PSP solely as a portable movie player? Do you know anyone who has? If you own a PSP, have you even bought a UMD movie?
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Playing movies on the PSP is a real pain in the neck and the wallet. If you have more than 1 kid all bets are off. Can you imagine the fighting going on in the back seat? A few GBA SP's and a bunch of games would keep kids far more entertained.
I'm sure there are a few people out there who actually have a use for watching movies on the thing, but even then a portable dv
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Dude. Playing music is not something the PSP does well. It's far too big. 1gb flash players cost the sam
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