IGN's Top 100 Games 175
fwice writes "IGN has released their list of the Top 100 Games of all time. This list covers games from all different systems, including PC and various different consoles. Each game listed has a write-up about why it was chosen and what makes it special." Yeah yeah, another list. This one's not bad, though, with selections including TIE Fighter, Tetris, and Civ II ranking high on the list.
Boring (Score:1)
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I don't think so... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I don't think so... (Score:2, Insightful)
Would seem that it would be kind of redundant to put both on the list...
Then again... Mario, Mario 3, Super Mario World, Mario 64... lol. Also loved all of these titles, but I don't think all four of them needed to be on the list if they left off the original Zelda...
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The Most Influential list that 1up had a while back was good. That was kind of hard to argue with.
Re:I don't think so... (Score:1)
SMW2 over SMW is a bit ridiculous, though both games are definately excellent. I agree that MK1 should probly be on the list solely for the notion of the motion capt
Re:I don't think so... (Score:2)
Maybe because YoshisIsland(SMW2) is lightyears ahead of SuperMarioWorld, way better graphics, more interesting gameplay, cool SFX2 special effects, a Yoshi that actually looks cool and stuff. SMW isn't a bad game, but even when it was originally released I found it rather disapointing, SMB3 was already better than it.
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I am confused on two points.
(1) The list is 99 entries too long.
(2) Paratrooper [dosgamesarchive.com] is not on there.
Re:I don't think so... (Score:2)
where's King's Quest? (Score:1)
Re:where's King's Quest? (Score:1)
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not so bad (Score:1)
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It would appear that IGN is smoking gravel (Score:1)
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Re:It would appear that IGN is smoking gravel (Score:2)
Great game! Loved the fact that it had an editor and lots of maps. Anyone knows if anything happened with the source code? Any new game/mod came out from that?
Here's the IGN Top 100 Games List Summary (Score:2, Informative)
For those who don't want to read the articles explanation for each game.
IGN Top 100 Games
1. Super Mario Bros. 2. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3. Tetris 4. Sid Meier'
Re:It would appear that IGN is smoking gravel (Score:2)
Nintendo (Score:1)
Re:Nintendo (Score:1)
I mean, having a look at the top 30, we see Mario Bros.. that's about as much of a kid-title as the Giana Sisters.
Ocarina of Time was also quite the fairytale, what with all the cute and cuddly dragons, spiders and all.
Tetris? Does it get any more child-friendly than sharp blocks falling down to smash the ground?
Mario 64 was somewhat child-friendly though, but that's negated by the mind-eating enemies in Super Metroid.
Link to the Past was ver
Best or Most Important? (Score:4, Insightful)
If this were a list of the 100 Most Historically Important Games of All Time, Super Mario Brothers would certainly fit in their as crucially influential. But few will argue that Super Mario Brothers is a better game than Super Mario Brothers 3, Super Mario World, and various successors in the genre. It probably shouldn't even be in a list of the "best" games of all time at all, evaluated independent of any and all history associated with it as a present day, uncontextualised gameplay experience. If SMB1 were released today as a never-before-seen title, it's fairly obvious what reviewers would have to say about it. Something I expect to the effect that, as free Flash games go, it's pretty dull. You certainly couldn't charge money for it.
Creating a list which mixes unrelated criteria (good games and historically influential ones) as its basis for honouring certain titles is a ridiculous and purposeless exercise. Some will say any sort of list of this type is a purposeless exercise, but I think having an active critical discourse in the gaming world is crucial to its functioning as a meaningful artistic and recreational culture. But naming the "Top" games without basing those choices on something more specific is especially silly.
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I doubt it, I can understand when a game like Unreal or Serious Sam doesn't try to be real, but Doom3 or one of the dozens of 'realistic' military shooters? Sure you might not want to have any game like OperationFlashpoint, since not everybody might like that level of realism, but having movement that looks more like a real human and less like SuperMario couldn't really hurt in a game that tries at least somewhat close to realism.
Marble Madness (Score:1)
BattleToads? (Score:2)
Re:BattleToads? (Score:2)
Holy hell. Talk about a bad first game to get for the NES... every game I played after that seemed like a breeze. I don't ever recall beating Ghosts and Goblins until I got into the computer / emulation era, with savestates....
I don't think that made the game "good", but it definitely tested your patience.
Oh yea, had a friend beat Hydelide (sp?) once. That game was booooooring...
Come to think of it, there were qu
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Feels like one guys opinion (Score:1)
But no, it's on IGN and people are paying attention to it for some reason (this is the second place I've seen it now). There's a good bit of lip service too, like even putting Halo on the list.
Their missing some amazing games (Score:1)
- Any Kings Quest
- Any Space Quest, esp space quest I
- Wolfenstien 3D
- Tomb Raider
Those were all major games as I grew up as a kid and into my teenage years. Wolfenstiend led the way for me and first person shooters. Kings Quest and Space Quests are the games that got me playing on the computer and insted of a console. And Tomb Raider waisted most my university time
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I more put it in the same basket as "Leisure Suit Larry", etc all.
Those Sierra graphics games where what you have to do is walk up to and try to do something with EVERY THING IN THE ENTIRE DAMN WORLD to find where they hid something. It wasn't fun for 99% of the population - it was an exercise in patience and frustration.
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I loved those games, but eventually, they got boring. KQ3 and KQ4 were great, but 5 was too cartoony for me. I think they tried to turn it into a "storybook", and it wasn't fun.
Re:Their missing some amazing games (Score:2)
I don't know why this is, but I have yet to see any of the really great C-64 | Atari 800 | Apple II games (like Lode Runner, Jumpman, Space Taxi, M.U.L.E., Racing Destruction Set, Original Wolfenstein) make the list.
What... no C64 or Amiga games :[ (Score:3, Insightful)
There was also a apple II game called dungeon quest or something like that which I know some people were very addicted to.
Shabby List (Score:1)
Rome: Total War is at #14? While Counterstrike is #71 and Final Fantasy VII is #88?
FFVII was below every other Final Fantasy on the list?
Thrilled to see Starcraft at 7, but no mention of any Warcraft or Diablo?
Re:Shabby List (Score:1)
It's the first worldmap/battelfield strategy game that actually makes it fun to play the battles, rather than getting bored or frustrated with a horrible combat system stuck into an otherwise good game (Rebellion comes to mind).
The replayability factor is huge, and it looks good. Never before has running war elephants into masses of peasants been more
Re:Shabby List (Score:2)
The sad thing is that original Zelda isn't even on the list. Wtf?
Re:Bullshit (Score:2)
FF7 had a poor, confusing, storyline with holes you could drive a truck through. And it had tech- I don't *want* tech ion a fantasy game. Any. At all.
FF6 and 10s storys are extremely different. I can't see a single similarity between them. WHatever you're smoking, I want some.
As always, mostly useless (Score:2)
Without even reading it, I'm going to assume its totally subjective. I'm going to spare myself reading the comments, which I assume will be "What! Why isn't [Game X] included?!" and "You jerks, [Game A] is wayyy better than [Game B]".
Subjective top x lists are pointless, unless you're a rabid fanboy prepared to soak up the opinions of basically anyone like a dry sp
Re:As always, mostly useless (Score:2)
You of course never can get a 100% objective list, but that one here gets pretty damn close. It still might have missed out a few classics, but in a top 100 list there is only place for a 100 games, so thats inevitable. From all the 'Best games ever' lists its among the best I have seen so far, since it gets the mix between classics and current stuff quite right.
I was just playing Dragon Warrior... (Score:1)
The problem with a "best of" list (Score:2)
Same goes for Super Mario Brothers, the number 1 on the list. It was
Re:The problem with a "best of" list (Score:2)
I think it simply makes this list a heck of a lot clearer when they list only the original game instead of some obscure remake, especially since some games have been remade more then once. If they would list all SMB1 ever created, they would have like 4 places for SMB1 alone, add to that the SMB3 and YoshiIsland remake and you have already a good part of the list stuff with Mario alone. That would for
Re:The problem with a "best of" list (Score:2)
And it doesn't make sense to mix a "classics" list with a "best of" list. Those are two completely separate traits, which actually is demonstrated by my post above. Even if the game is still fun today, that does not make it an "all time best." I think for that moniker, you've got to have something that was never replicated
Re:The problem with a "best of" list (Score:2)
Sometimes it might be better, but it still makes little sense to refer to some remake instead of the original game, especially when the gameplay is 100% the same. If gameplay is noticable different, say RE1 (PSone) vs RE1 (Gamecube) it might of course good to refer to them seperatly, but SMB1 vs SMB1 (AllStars) is really just a new tileset.
### And it doesn't make sense to mix a "classics" list with a "best of"
Super Mario World (Score:1)
Ha, I just remembered the time I bought Mario is Missing... Super Mario Bros 3 it wasn't!
Sims and Diablo (Score:1)
Doom (Score:2)
At my Uni at the time large groups of people used to sneak into the computer labs to play it on the network. It also ushered in 3D games into the mainstream. I think it's probably had the greatest impact of any game in the PC market, and should be higher than 39th place. 'Sydnicate' should have been up there too IMHO.
Re:Doom (Score:2)
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SoundBlaster sound cards were not something everyone had, and virtually no PCs came with them pre-installed.
Although Wolfenstein preceeded it, both were made by the sam
Not Bad (Score:1)
But I cannot believe Golden Eye beat out both of the Half-Lifes.
Hey, now that there's been 2 half-lives past are we down to a quarter life?
Re:Not Bad (Score:3, Funny)
I was going to make a nasty joke about you sucking at math, but it's just too easy.
Re:Not Bad (Score:2)
Re:Not Bad (Score:2)
Re: suction (Score:2)
I was going to make a nasty joke about you sucking at math, but it's just too easy.
How about a joke of you sucking at physics?
The time it takes for a radioactive substance to decay into half its original value is the half-live. Wait for another half-life and you have one quarter of the original left (it's exponential decay). Hence two half-lives = one quarter-life.
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Katamari Damacy (Score:3, Insightful)
Also annoying is that they seem to think that the NES was the first video game system. When they're leaning towards landmark releases, not including a single Atari 2600 game seems odd for people who are supposed to be experts on video games.
-paul
Re:NES bias (Score:2, Interesting)
Sounds about right, yes?
I haven't even clicked the link yet, but I assume two of those are Super Mario Bros 3 and Super Metroid. Maybe they've gone for Super Mario Bros 1 instead though.
Now I'll go check
Here we go again... (Score:2)
We've done it all before, and will do it all again, several times a year. Oh yeah, no Manic Miner on the list (he said with
Chrono Trigger (Score:2)
Did anyone else miss Chrono Trigger? It was easily one of the best games I've ever played and deserves to be on that list much more than FFX or FFVII. The epic storyline (with a sense of humor), the magnificent soundtrack, the detailed graphics (excellent for its time), the battle system (with triple techs), the lack of random encounters, and the replayability (so many different endings) all add up to make the game so enjoyable.
Do yourself a favor, if you've never played it. Buy the remake for the PlaySta
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At the time, SNES9X didn't handle the multilayered transparency effects used about halfway in, so when I got to that stage, I immediately eBayed a used SNES and cart. The
Missing Games (Score:1)
What kind of a Top 100 gaming list doesn't include at least one of the two BIGGEST games out there?
Not only that, but when was the last time you walked into an arcade and DIDN'T see a Dance Dance Revolution setup?
Sadly, no FreeSpace. Or EarthBound. So sad.
No Total Annihilation? (Score:2)
But it didn't even make this list's top 100? And yet Dune 2 did? Dune 2 may have started the RTS genre, but TA polished the interface until it shined. Games like Starcraft certainly had a much better story (and I like my games to have good stories) but TA h
Re:No Total Annihilation? (Score:2)
I know TA has i
I know. It's sad. :-( (Score:2)
If only Blizzard and others would take a serious look at it and actually IMPLEMENT some of its ideas...
Too many games to pick from (Score:2)
Some games i spent many hours with: Elite, Simcity, Lemmings, OMF2097
Re:Too many games to pick from (Score:2)
*LOTS* of classics missing... (Score:2)
And, BTW, i feel Doom should be ranking a bit higher. It truly was a
Re:*LOTS* of classics missing... (Score:2)
Too many console games, (where is Starflight?) (Score:2)
PC classics missing
StarFlight by Binary Systems, has anyone equaled what they did on two 360k floppies?
Empire, the only pure strategy game and one of the oldest
No MMORPG titles made it though I think either UO or EQ deserve to be on the list because they helped establish their genres. I think that a key to making the top 100 list is how the game has either never been equaled, set new standards or established them, or is still played.
Still way to
Lakers vs. Celtics and the NBA Playoffs? (Score:2)
And while there were only eight selectable teams and modes were limited to Exhibition and Playoffs
Whoot. Hours of fun.
Are all of IGN's staff children? (Score:2, Insightful)
Missing Some Important Games (Score:2, Insightful)
instead of a top 100 list.... (Score:2)
Is there something out there like this on the internet. Sorta like imdb but for videogames?
MOD PARENT UP (Score:2)
Quake 1??? (Score:2)
Quake was one of the first games that was able to successfully take advantage of OpenGL. I know I wasn't the only one who ran out and picked up a Voodoo 1 card when I saw what it looked like.
Don't forget Quakeworld. Quakeworld was a groundbreaking addon that allowed you to actually play the game over dial up, something almost unheard of at the time.
Don't forget all of the mods. Quake was one of the first
What about Asteroids? (Score:2)
I agree with others that Lode Runner and Elite should have been there, as well as The Sims.
Where was Sopwith??
View from 1997 and 2002 (Score:2)
http://www.kisrael.com/vgames/egm100.2002.html [kisrael.com]
1997:
http://www.kisrael.com/vgames/egm100.html [kisrael.com]
In 2002 I did some comparisons of how the list looked vs 1997...
I call bullshit (Score:2)
As a lot of other people have pointed out, a lot of good games weren't even mentioned but a lot of shitty ones were.. TA where are you?!?!
TA defined RTS gaming and to this day still has all of the best elements that make a great RTS...
Tecmo Super Bowl comment (Score:2)
I played this game a lot and still have it and an original NES system. Their comment about Barry Sanders doesn't make much sense because in that game, Barry wasn't the most dominant running back. The Raiders had Bo Jackson, who(
Worms (Score:2)
Top XXX Lists? (Score:2)
Donkey Kong Country? (Score:2)
Re:test (Score:1)
Re:Dude... (Score:2)
NETHACK
Oh, so it's commercial games only or something? If you don't pay for it and have an ad campaign you don't get on the list.
Re:This list is worthless (Score:2)
I also think Resident Evil 4 should be higher, the game is fantastic, and reason enough to buy a Cube.
Re:starcon (Score:2)
Ah yes, another believer. Welcome my brother. I can see you are one of us, simply by calling it "Starcon".
As long as Star Control II made the list somewhere, I was ok. Yes, it should be rater higher than it is, but not everyone has the enlightenment we do. :-)