Review: Sims 2 Nightlife 115
- Title: The Sims 2: Nightlife
- Developer: Maxis
- Publisher: EA Games
- System: PC
- Reviewer: Zonk
- Score: 7/10
The microcosm world of The Sims 2 allows players to vicariously live out the lives of the rich, popular, or phenomenally stupid. The ability for the game player to project their own hopes and neurosis onto their virtual marionettes involves a lot of set dressing. Furniture, art, electronics, wallpaper, and swimming pools are just some of the tools Sims 2 players use to tell their stories. The set pieces that players seem to enjoy manipulating the most, though, are the Sims themselves. "Nightlife" is a generous package of objects, interactions, and locations designed to make lubricating Simlish society more convenient.
Like all Sims expansions, at its core "Nightlife" is a system add-on for the basic game. The first Sims 2 expansion, "University", added on a college campus to the neighborhood as well as a young adult development stage to the life cycle of the Simlish species. "Nightlife" incorporates the highly successful dating system used in the "Hot Date" expansion for the original Sims title. Dating allows Sims to improve their relationship by attempting a 'dream date' at romantic locations like parks, restaurants, and bowling alleys. The date mechanic is extremely useful, allowing two Sims that you'd like to get together the opportunity to improve their social connection in a hurry.Besides actual dates, you can arrange group gatherings that pull together more than two Sims into an outing. These group gatherings are even more useful for raising social standings between Sims, but can be a mixed bag. Dates and gatherings are evaluated based on how good a time the participants have. While dates, with only two participants, are fairly easy to run group gatherings can be very challenging because of the number of Sims involved. Unattended Sims have a tendency to lose track of what they're doing, and if your gathering depends on everyone being on the same page even one wayward Sim can ruin the event for everyone. While the date mechanic is lots of fun, gatherings could have used a little more polishing.
Social gatherings need interesting backdrops to be fully appreciated, and the new downtown area very much fulfills that need. Downtown is chock full of different places, each themed to a different type of get-together. Rocking out with a group of musicians can be accomplished in the park, while a date might find the candle-lit restaurant more agreeable. Each of the default areas packaged with the expansion is a well thought-out venue for socializing, and they're usually handsome looking as well.
Some more subtle system additions also allow for easier socializing. Sims now have romantic preferences, which result from turn-ons (dark hair, formal ware), turn-offs (stench, workout uniforms), astrological signs and life goals. Sims that have chemistry with each other have little lightning bolts near their names. Likewise, Sims can now have antipathy towards each other just based on their personal makeup. Sims with x'd out lightning bolts will have a harder time than normal having a successful relationship. In practice, the chemistry is just another addition that makes it easier to max out relationships between two Sims.These like/dislike values play a large role in the life of the Pleasure Seeker Sim, a new life aspiration you can create Sims with. Pleasure Seekers want parties, fast cars, steamy dates, and expensive toys. The Pleasure Seeker Sim I made ("Hef") was a pain in the butt to keep happy. Most of the things that give him happiness are either expensive or require a lot of work to accomplish. As a counterpoint, the Pleasure Seeker isn't very good at living in the normal world. They have a hard time with jobs and chores, making them terrible room-mates. Pleasure Seeker Sims might be an interesting addition to a well developed neighborhood, full of rich families, but for a starter Sim they're just not practical.
A mainstay of Sims expansions are the objects. Adding new objects to your purchasing repertoire is always a goal for a Sims player, and "Nightlife" fulfills that goal admirably. The downtown areas come with a plethora of new objects specifically for dates and group gatherings, like the bowling alley or the restaurant host stand. There are many handsome new objects that are used in the new venues that can be purchased for home use as well. My personal favorite is the karaoke machine, which is a great group activity and painful to watch to boot. "Nightlife" even introduces a new type of object for Simlish consumption: the car. Sims can now have garages and vehicles, adding yet another layer of realism to the game and making traveling to out-of-the-house locations quicker. All aspects of car culture are there in car ownership: listening to music, tooling around for fun, and more amorous activities as well. While every Sim, it seems, ends up wanting to own a car as a life goal at some point they're not absolutely critical. For the most part they're simply convenient for the player who wants to wring every minute out of the SimCity day.Practical additions, like vehicles, aren't the only features "Nightlife" offers. One completely useless feature the expansion adds is a vampire Sim-type. Vampires can now be found prowling around SimCity, and if you go looking for them you can get your own Sims turned into the restless undead. Unfortunately, it sounds cooler than it really is. Aside from turning other Sims into vampires and transforming into a bat, the amusement factor is sort of limited. Vampire Sims become quite nocturnal, making it difficult to participate in normal jobs and raising family members. The new "type" of Sim idea is interesting, but as far as this expansion goes doesn't see a lot of real use.
There isn't anything here that will shock a current owner, and likely doesn't have any features that might convince a non-player to purchase the game. That said, "Nightlife" is another solid expansion for the now venerable series. It adds on extremely useful systems to the game, opens up new possibilities for gameplay, and incorporates the ever-important new object sets into the title. "Nightlife" gameplay adds a lot of potential to the already entertaining Sims 2. Folks who don't already own the game would probably be best advised just to buy the basic game to make sure they enjoy the gameplay before dropping another $30 for this expansion. For a veteran Sims 2 player who has already tired of college life, though, a night on the town may be just what you need.
Hot Coffee? (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:1)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2)
Sonnnnnn !!! This guy should have been born in the Victorian [wikipedia.org] age, when this kind of sentiment was rife.
Not at all like Hot Coffee (Score:3, Insightful)
The third party hack to remove the censor effect/pixelation that appears over nude sims reveals Barbie/Ken doll nudity with no female nipples/pubic hair/genitalia whatsoever.... There are third party mesh/texture packs that will add the above features to the naked sims Maxis actuall
Re:Not at all like Hot Coffee (Score:2)
Not to complain about your view because I agree, but I just thought it was worth saying that technically, the term "paedophilia" doesn't apply to teenagers anyway.
See Wikipedia. [wikipedia.org]
3rd Party Hack? (Score:3, Informative)
Third party hacks? It's an in-game console command, something along the lines of "intprop SetCensorSize 0" or so.
As for the claims of pedophelia, I know there are third-party mods for teenagers (which would technically be ephebophilia [wikipedia.org] IIRC) to WooHoo, including teen pregnancy patches, but again, that's third-party and it only wor
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:1)
Always a good day when you can use the word "herpes" on slashdot...
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2)
Now, GTA:SA is an 'M' rated game, and the stink was about adding some extraneous clothes-on scenes to that mix.
Meanwhile, The Sims 2 has some steamy life aspirations and scenarios that are written into the game. There are little miniscenes of "whoopie" in the hot tub with cute graphics of fireworks and post coital bliss. You can fulfill goals such as being a virtual slut (boinking at least three differen
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:1)
The proper terminology is "WooHoo!"
And "WooHoo with 3 Sims" is just the beginning... Keep playing and you can get such wonderful aspirations as "Public WooHoo with 10 Sims" and "Have 30 Lovers at Once."
Romance Sims have all the fun.
Re:welcome to the 20th century (Score:1)
Re:welcome to the 20th century (Score:1)
Obv. Plug (Score:2)
Most likely, he's trying to link-spam his website. Google checks Slashdot and actually gives it a pretty decently high pagerank. Unfortunately, he's linked it as "fanatsy", so the only people he'll be getting are bad spellers.
Hot Coffee? (Score:3, Funny)
> out-and-about addition incorporates much of the "Hot Date"
> material from the original game, with a generous helping of extras.
Let's just not go there with the oot-and-aboot stuff. The last thing I need is to imagine a bunch of flappy-headed Canadian Sims, and the notions of "hot date", or worse, "hot coffee", all conflated in something that sounds like Greater Toronto Area: Sim City.
But as long as it's too late for my mind to escape the pain, I may as well share it with you.
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2)
<obligitory>That is a racist statement! You are a racist madam! A racist!</obligitory>
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2, Interesting)
But as long as it's too late for my mind to escape the pain, I may as well share it with you.
According to the UN and various research studies, Canadians have twice as much sex per person as Americans do.
Maybe you're just envious of how cute Canadian gi
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:1, Funny)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:1)
Re:Hot Coffee? (Score:2)
Second of all, I'm a bit concerned -- I have been taught, even in my university courses in the States -- that the Canadian health care system is failing because it is socialized (this coming from a professor who is pro-socialized health care). I've heard that the waits for even a simple checkup are hours, if not days. I've also heard that if you have an emer
Wow (Score:2, Insightful)
Is it really worthy of a review??
If its a paid review, I'd understand, but, really, there are much better new (and full) games to review.
Re:Wow (Score:5, Funny)
Is it really worthy of a review??"
I bolded the part where you answered your own question.
Re:Wow (Score:3, Insightful)
Where reviews are great are for silent releases of really good games that no one has had a chance to see. That's what really makes a review golden.
That game hidden in the corner of your local EB? Its really good or really bad. Don't tell me about something thats been out forever, or just an expansion of an already ultra successful franchise (unless its a preview, not a revie
Re:Wow (Score:2)
For example: Blender [dyndns.org] is WAY better than The Sims 2 Nightlife!
Re:Wow (Score:2)
I [mcdonalds.com] don't [microsoft.com] follow [britneyspears.com] your [peapod.com] reasoning [budweiser.com].
Re:Wow (Score:2)
Sims worthy of anything?!?? (Score:2)
Why so prominent a review? (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Why so prominent a review? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Why so prominent a review? (Score:2)
Re:Why so prominent a review? (Score:2)
Most of Slashdot's front-page articles aren't justifiable as "news for nerds." This one comes closer than many.
The best part of the Sims 2... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:The best part of the Sims 2... (Score:1)
Re:The best part of the Sims 2... (Score:1)
Parent is right, too. I've not heard a single complaint about my gaming (PC or console) since. As long as I keep the expansion packs coming...
Re:The best part of the Sims 2... (Score:1)
My buddy complained that his wife ignored him now and never wanted to hang out, talk or take any interest in him whatsoever. He said it started when he installed Sims2 for her. I installed Sims2 for MY wife that very night.
And that's a good thing? :)
Parent is right, too. I've not heard a single complaint about my gaming (PC or console) since. As long as I keep the expansion packs coming...
Well, if the goal is to get some quality gaming time in, that would work, but still...
What people really want (Score:4, Insightful)
Ah, slashdot (Score:1)
Re:Ah, slashdot (Score:3, Insightful)
Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, sex IS the outcome of all successful dating situations (even for religious zealots who wait until they've confirmed their dating status with a state called "marriage").
There's a ton of simulation that could be put into encounters that involve sexuality -- aggression, passivity, willingness to be adventurous, the level of emotional commitment required/desired, and that's just scratching the surface.
The depiction doesn't even have to be super hard
Re:What people really want (Score:2)
Singles as porn (Score:2)
Re:Hot Coffee Mod? (Score:2)
Does this mean... (Score:5, Funny)
I don't like it. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
I'll be honest; I don't get the appeal. Give me GTA any day of the week.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:2)
This game was designed to allow women to play "Dollhouse" or "House." Threads like this try are basically reviewing the game and expansions for geeky GUYS who are clueless about the game.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:3, Funny)
The point is: don't call it Virtual Dolls in front of an addicted woman. She'll get pi$$ed.
or not. . . what the h3ll do I know about women?!?
Re:I don't like it. (Score:2)
I've heard many stories of stuff like this here, especially in the realm of women creating a sim version of a guy they like, and living out their fantasy of being married to him, kids, growing old together, etc.
It *can* be creepy...
Sim versions of life (Score:2)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:2)
My daughter loves the Sims and has been drooling over Sims2 for months, but her computer isn't fast enough to play it.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
zzzzzzzzzzzzz.....
what a borefest. I do not understand how/why this is fun to so many people...but hey, whatever floats there boat.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
I agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment - I used to waste hours at a time on SimCity 2000 (my favorite of the 4). But Sims felt tedious to me...after I made two female roommate sims go lesbian, and killed the creepy family one by one, I got bored.
I especially hated having to wait for them to go to work & sleep & whatnot.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:3, Interesting)
I also always have the trailer in the cor
Are you a scriptwriter for "Dr Phil"? (Score:2)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:2)
I want to build that sweet dream home with 3 stories and a pool with an arcade. Play your SIM like he/she is a rich trust fund kid, break up marriages, sex every over sim in the neighbourhood, or murder them all and have a collection of ghosts haunting your house. Knock up girl after girl, have hot gay/lesbian sex. Seduce the maid.. gardener, repair man pizza boy... its good times and debaucery at its finest.
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
Re:I don't like it. (Score:1)
Not so sure about that (Score:5, Insightful)
What about license and registration renewals, car inspections, insurance payments, getting ripped off by mechanics, spiraling fuel costs, and getting into accidents?
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
So be your own mechanic! It never ceases to amaze me how gullible people are when it comes to repairs on, well, anything. Computers, washing machines, cars - they're all incredibly simple from a technical viewpoint, but the punters queue in their droves to pay other people to 'fix' them. And then they complain when they get 'ripped off'.
I'm just a regular geek, no special training or skills, and I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times in my adult life (say,
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
My time is more valuable to me than that. I'm not going to spend an entire weekend day just to save a couple hundred bucks, especially when doing so will violate my warranty.
I pay someone to repair a machine because I value their expertise and experience dealing with things that are over my head. If it's brake pads or something else easy, I do it myself.
Besides, it was a tongue-in-cheek post, did you leave your sense of humor at home today, or did you just want to brag tha
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
What kind of warrenty do you have that you have to pay for your repairs? Generally speaking, when a repair is costing you cash warrenty isn't an issue any longer.
I pay someone to repair a machine because I value their expertise and experience dealing with things that are over my head.
That's a very valid point, sometimes the "do it yourself" attitude costs more than it was
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
Routine maintenance isn't covered under a lot of warranties. Some warranties don't cover non-drive train repairs after a certain period.
"That's a very valid point, sometimes the "do it yourself" attitude costs more than it was worth if you're not honest to yourself about your abilities."
Or, if there are barriers such as equipment (I don'
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
I don't have a ton of experience here but no warrenty I've ever had has ben broken by the user doing their own routine maintenance. As for the drive train, like I said, if you're paying for the repair than the warrenty is not an issue. If you've had an incident where you've done work to one part of a car unrelated to the drive train and had the warrent voided by that work
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
Being your own mechanic tends to require things that not everyone (particularly the Slashdot demographic, which tends to involve a lot of college students) have. Like a Gar
Re:Not so sure about that (Score:2)
I've worked on cars quite a bit, bein' as how I'll gladly spend the time to save me $200 in labor for something simple. Can't say I've ever worked on a car in a garage, though. I'm from Oklahoma, so nine months out of the year the weather is fine for working outside. I'd imagine most of the southern U.S. is that way.
I agree though, these newfangled cars often requi
Looking forward to the next release... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Looking forward to the next release... (Score:2)
Source: GameSpot [gamespot.com]
Re:Looking forward to the next release... (Score:2)
In the next release, Sim Hot Tubbing ... (Score:1)
So far, they just seem to get dressed and hurry out the door, even when my master chef sim makes a nice omelette breakfast for them
Strange, that
So this explains it! (Score:2, Funny)
Zonk, you've got some 'splaining to do
Sin City redux (Score:5, Funny)
-Rick
Re:Sin City redux part duex (Score:1)
There is a video cheat that lets you turn the animation to black and white with grainy kind of like in Sin City. You might try playing it with that mod on.
Re:Sin City redux part duex (Score:2)
What's the fun of a virtual life that's just like normal life? Give it some edge. Go to the bar, catch a great show, have fun with the buds, and run a 10% chance of getting gunned down! 40% chance of bar brawls breaking out, 30% chance of getting arrested, 15% chance of getting laid, etc.
-Rick
Hot Coffee - Sims Style (Score:3, Funny)
Now if only I can make it so that my vampire can have sex in his coffin... My new house was too small for both the coffin *and* a double bed...
Re:Hot Coffee - Sims Style - Sim Troubles (Score:1)
Sounds like the character I'm doing in Sims 2 with University add-on
The only thing that I have to
If its not a game YOU play.... (Score:2, Insightful)
Hot Date vs Nightlife (Score:3, Interesting)
Now if only on real dates we could have a list of four different things that would make our dates happy, updated as the dates progressed...
Re:Hot Date vs Nightlife (Score:3, Funny)
Wow, I didn't realize they upped the ante so far on the Woo Hoo options...
Re:Hot Date vs Nightlife (Score:2)
Ever been out with a real-life woman? The game's working fine...
New relationship options are the real point (Score:2)
She was giggling with glee as her bisexual Sim did "woohoo" with another Sim in front of the other Sim's ex, and then the two Sims getting in a fight afterwards.
Real Life Dating (Score:3, Funny)
No thanks!
Zonk really knows how to show a girl a good time! (Score:1)
Dating allows Sims to improve their relationship by attempting a 'dream date' at romantic locations like parks, restaurants, and bowling alleys.
Its not all that often you get to see a bowling alley described as "romantic".
Re:Zonk really knows how to show a girl a good tim (Score:2)
She was 18 and wanted to play pool (you gotta be 21 to get into a bar in this state). It might not have been all that romantic, but we had a lot of fun.
The poster makes an association between... (Score:2)
Violence Meaningless? (Score:2, Insightful)
Contention? (Score:2)
Kicky bag bug (Score:2)
I still fret when I see my sims start a game of kicky bag.
Re:Kicky bag bug (Score:1)
Mind you, Maxis is working on a patch for both University and Nightlife, but experience tells me the patch will only give us more bugs.
So just use the mods that are all over to get rid of these, though as they change parts of the so
Ewwwww! (Score:2)
Sounds like they still haven't addressed the biggest reality gap in the original game — sexual preference. Rather than deal with that issue at all, they just made all Sims bisexual — any Sim can get it on with any other. I guess there's no place for
Re:Ewwwww! (Score:2)
It's interesting that all of your sims are bisexual.
I wonder what that says about you?
I'm just messing with yah. In all seriousness, they might have thought about it, but what fun would it be if you couldn't make the wife sleep with the husband's mistress?
Re:Ewwwww! (Score:2)
Torrent (Score:1)
Hate to be negative... (Score:2, Interesting)
But staring a simulation to see how the character you created will play for you, in the house you designed for him, within the limited options of the game, and with no obvious objectives/victory conditions, does not sound productive or fun at all.
Say you play a RTS game, waste a good 1 hour developing your bases and armies in an online play, you win/lose get an allied victory/ or whatever. The objectives are obvious, and fun.
However with this "game", rather simulation, its like looking at a bunch of rat
Sims 2 Goals (Score:2)
Really, I kind of wish they modeled more parameters than
Crazy Stuff (Score:1)