Microsoft Releases Game Advisor For Windows 108
av_2_0 writes "Microsoft has released a web accessible Game Advisor for Windows. This will check your system's configuration, compare it with a knowledge base of around 360 games and tell you if your system is compatible." Requires the use of IE and the install of an ActiveX thingie. My system is apparently faster than 58% of systems checked.
Yawn. (Score:3, Insightful)
Well, that was exciting. And no, this wasn't the Slashdot effect as it loaded the ActiveX garbage just fine. It's just once it was here it died a horrible, "browser renders entire surface as white" death.
I guess this is the start of the "Microsoft is serious about PC games" initiative. Frankly, I could give a flying frootloop about the PC games scene these days: for the $500 the top end video cards go for I can pick up *two* console systems and a smattering of games, or one console and go freaking insane with games. Yeah, you can't do RTS or FPS as cleanly on consoles as on PC, but both genre's are in such serious ruts that it doesn't matter. And yes, I am aware how "pretty" PC graphics can be... but I'm there for the game play not the sparklies. I'm perfectly happy to watch the technology trickle down into consoles.
The last straws were the copy protection that demands I stop performing my job as a software developer to play a lousy game (quick hint, the debugger *ins't* so I can hack your freaking game) and the "your DVD isn't a CD, thus you are screwed out of your cash" crap.
Re:Yawn. (Score:1)
You should try it. You get a lot more productive too.
Wait... Is
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All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play make Jack a dull boy.
All work and no play make Jack a *snore*
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Besides, I have like 100 books on my amazon wish list. I'm working my way down.
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So, he's using his work box for games. I was addressing that specifically.
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All of this
Assuming you're old enough to drink (Score:1)
Go have a shot of RedRum [redrum.com].
others are slower (Score:1)
Well (Score:1)
Re:Well (Score:2)
Re:Yawn. (Score:3, Insightful)
What I don't understand is WHY Microsoft is trying to push PC gaming. It's not like Apple is competing in that a
Re:Yawn. (Score:2)
It's to fight off Linux and BSD (Score:2)
What I don't understand is WHY Microsoft is trying to push PC gaming.
Because if you're locked into games for Windows instead of games for GameCube or PS2 or the handhelds, then you're less likely to defect to BSD or Linux for everything else.
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There's a lot of good reasons for Microsoft to support PC gaming.
1. PC gaming drives PC hardware sales, and PC hardware sale
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That's exactly *why* they are pushing it. The only pure, unarguable advantage the Windows-powered PC has over it's Apple and Linux competitors is gaming. Productivity apps? Generally more user-friendly and versatile on the Mac. Control over your system or security? Linux all the way. And don't get me started on professional tasks like film editing. If I didn't play games with my PC,
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What a load of crap (Score:4, Insightful)
Price is still lower but you get less but lets not forget to check the price of the games. I don't know if this is true around the world but in holland games like Kotor and morrowind (released both for console AND pc) typically cost a full 10 euro's more for the console version. Wich is kinda sad since for both games the PC version was clearly better. Kotor because it came with extra content and Morrowind because of the whole user made content bit that is exclusive to the PC. Not to forget that the expansion packs for Morrowind were PC only.
Show me Counterstrike for console please. No not counterstrike itself but usermade modifications for your console. Sure 99% of usermade content probably sucks but the remaining 1% consist of some pure gems wich either are brilliant games in their own right or take an existing game to new levels. That is not including games like MS own flightsimulator wich ofcourse are all about user made content. Or Neverwinter Nights.
Their are of course prices to pay but you paint an extremely one sided picture and fail to completly analyze the costs.
A 1000 dollar gaming machine does not compare to a 300 dollar console. You should compare it to a 300 dollar console + accesories + tv + cheapo internet pc. Wanna bet that all that together comes pretty close to the cost of a full gaming pc? Anyway not everyone is a kid living on his mothers allowance. 500 dollars is all relative. If you think that is a lot never ever look at bills for your gf/wifes clothing.
The games are also different. Good luck finding an EQ2 or WoW on the console. Good luck with usermade games like Flightsim or NWN too. Then again good luck finding pure arcade titles on the PC.
Console games are easier to get running. Then again if you got troubles getting games to run on your pc what are you doing on slashdot?
Copy protection is a bitch at times but there is always away around it. Perhaps I have just been lucky.
I wonder what exactly the reason for this "test" is by MS. It is MS so there must be a motive. Could it be that they are trying to figure out exactly what kinda hardware is the norm for gamers? So that future games by them can be better tailored to the hardware available?
Both MS and Sony have a clear interest in making people game on their own propietary systems rather then the far more open PC. MS and Sony get paid when a game gets developed for their respective consoles. They get 0 for a game developed for pc. Yet both got really big titles that are exclusive to the PC, think MMO games wich MS is trying once again. Is Everquest just sony's way of testing the water until a future console is ready to run a MMO like and they will then drop the PC? EQ2 and SWG both like 1gig of memory so unless the new PS3 can perform some kind of miracle it will not be able to run the games as is. It used to be true that consoles needed less ram because they ran at far lower resolutions but with HD-tv this is becoming less true.
At the moment PC vs Console is not a matter of price. Yes a console alone is cheaper but you would still need the costs of a pc to be able to rant on /. on how much cheaper your console is. While I don't need a console to rant on how much bull that is.
It is a matter of different types of gaming. Sure I am tempted to the darkside by reviews of Jade empire and some other titles but am not willing to give up high resultions and user mods. My games also tend to need more buttons then a console has available. Then
Re:What a load of crap (Score:2, Insightful)
Of course PC games are "safe"... as I said, FPS and RTS live and die by the PC. MMORPG is a stronghold as well. Mods are a great thing too. My point is why bother when for a fraction of the price and *none* of the hassle I can have a lot more fun. I own a library of PC games, but I fish them out of bargin bins... if the $10 "Medievil Total War Battle Collection" had not booted, I can just dump in on a buddy.
Normally it isn't worth the hassle when I can plunk down in my c
Speaking of one sided pictures... (Score:2)
PCs do have certain advantages over consoles. They have better graphics, more modding capability, and the keyboard and mouse. Graphics are nice, but they're hardly a deal breaker. Dealing with lower resolutions isn't the horror you make it out to be. Modding capability is a great plus. The keyboard and mouse are great for some genres and horrible for others.
The thing is, while you can deny
Re:Yawn. (Score:3, Informative)
To remove the ActiveX: delete the "Measurement Services Client v3.7" file from "C:\WINDOWS\Downloaded Program Files".
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Try running Day of Defeat: Source and keeping the framerate above 60 FPS with a standard video card and a decent processor.
You can't. You can turn off HDR, dynamic lighting, bumpmapping. You can turn your resolution down to 800x600 and shut texture quality down to minimum. It doesn't matter what you do. With an average setup the framerate will constantly drop to 30 FPS, maybe even hitting 25.
The same goes for most newer games. Quake 4 is a good example.
Haha, I win! (Score:1)
Re:Haha, I win! (Score:2, Funny)
according to microsoft my system's performance is "WWOW!!!", i wonder how this translates into bogomips. or does that just mean "able to run Windows + WoW"?
Re:Haha, I win! (Score:1)
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Re:Haha, I win! (Score:2)
First, your proc. It's a nice proc, but not substantially better than my AMD 3500+. Sure, my proc only clocks at 2.2ghz, but it does more per cycle than the P4 ultra-pipeline archetecture.
Next, your video card. Your 9800 is ancient compared to my 6600GT. I upgraded from your card to mine and noticed a huge jump in gaming performance.
Our systems match on RAM and hard drive; you have a Raptor too, I assume.
Yet, my system rated in the top 9% while yours rated in the top 4%.
Obvious
Re:Haha, I win! (Score:2)
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They have to be favoring ATI over Nvidia
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Neat. (Score:1)
Wow, thats on my work PC.
FYI (Score:3, Informative)
IE-centric (Score:1)
This utility doesn't work with Firefox! Yaaarrgh!
Now why on earth would Microsoft want to make us use IE?
Re:IE-centric (Score:1)
Re:Top 6%!! (Score:1)
Not really...
64% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
I suck :/
Re:Top 6%!! (Score:2)
In a example window they told a person to upgrade his videocard, it was a Nvidia.
Only because the developer preferred ATI.
Yuck.
I was DQ'ed right off the bat (Score:5, Funny)
Windows XP Game Advisor requires the use of the Windows 98/ME/2000/XP operating system and the Internet Explorer 6 browser
This game sucks.
Re:I was DQ'ed right off the bat (Score:2, Funny)
Re:I was DQ'ed right off the bat (Score:2)
Seriously? (Score:2)
39% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
That's sad.
Re:Seriously? (Score:1)
Given that the Advisor ranks your system, it's apparent that it doesn't really test compatibility, it tests adequacy. If you've got an SLI system, are you really going to be worried whether your system will be fast enough once you've got DirectX 9.whatever installed? Unlikely.
The kind of gamer who will try this out is the one that's wondering whether Microsoft thinks that his PentiumII can run DoomIII.
-Tez
And why exactly... (Score:2)
Re:And why exactly... (Score:2)
How does it compare? (Score:1)
Not at all? (Score:2)
Re:How does it compare? (Score:1)
As an added bonus... (Score:1)
Internet Explorer 6? (Score:1)
Re:Internet Explorer 6? (Score:1)
for newline
damn
Crap (Score:1)
I guess my tablet PC sucks as a gamebox. Likely due to the intel graphics card.
obligatory... (Score:2)
Re:obligatory... (Score:1)
And mine (after only grudgingly loading up IE):
My System Specifications
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 2107MHz
Display Card ATI RADEON 9600 Series
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows 2000
Free Disk Space 23.71GB
Display Card Memory 256MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.6561
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card SB PCI
To save your system specifications for later visits, create a free
Game Advisor Account
My System Performance
34% of the systems scanned by the
Re:obligatory... (Score:2)
I've got a xp2800+, 1024MB ram and a 6600gt 128mb. 22% rank higher than mine.
Woot (Score:1)
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Top 1% (Score:1)
Incidently, this isn't Microsoft per se, it's just the super striped down Sysmark plugin from Futuremark, and we all know how reliable 3DMark is....
Blue screen here (Score:3, Insightful)
Oh well, now I'll never know if I pass or fail.
Re:Blue screen here (Score:1)
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Re:Blue screen here (Score:1)
sheared, you clearly have an IRQ conflict, ie. multiple devices using the same interrupt request. Reboot, go into your BIOS, and double-check all device IRQs, especially check video and sound IRQs. Most BIOSes all
Re:Blue screen here (Score:2)
Sure you will. Unfortunately, you failed.
I didn't know about graphics cards before (Score:1)
Please! Please! (Score:1)
Couldn't believe I made top half (Score:2)
this is pretty old (Score:1, Informative)
you sure about that? (Score:1)
Re:you sure about that? (Score:1)
I agree, it seems all too convenient.
"How can we get people to voluntarily give us detailed information on their personal computers for our marketing department to use?"
"Hey, just call it a 'benchmarking utility' and tell them that their computer is the most godly gaming rig to ever grace the Earth, and they'll never suspect a thing!"
Performance spread (Score:4, Interesting)
System 1: (Game Box)
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2549MHz
Display Card NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GTX
Memory 2048MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 102.48GB
Display Card Memory 256MB
Display Driver Version 7.8.0.3
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio
Your system is among the top 2% of all systems scanned by the Game Advisor.
System 2: (File Box)
Processor AMD Athlon(tm) 64 1809MHz
Display Card ATI RADEON 9500
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 219.49GB
Display Card Memory 128MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.6505
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio
Your system is among the top 14% of all systems scanned by the Game Advisor.
System 3: (Bittorrent Box)
Processor Intel Pentium M 1000MHz
Display Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 94.6GB
Display Card Memory 1MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.3762
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio
93% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
Re:Performance spread (Score:3, Insightful)
System 3: (Bittorrent Box)
Processor Intel Pentium M 1000MHz
Display Card Intel(R) 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV
Memory 512MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 94.6GB
Display Card Memory 1MB
Display Driver Version 6.14.10.3762
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card Realtek AC97 Audio
93% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher in performance than your system.
Well, why arent you using something with a smaller profile on that machine other than Windows? I
Re:Performance spread (Score:2)
Performance spread, my ass (Score:2)
Processor Intel Pentium 4 2800MHz
Display Card NVIDIA GeForce 6600 (@ 525/1050)
Display Card Memory 128MB
Memory 1024MB
Sound Card SB Audigy 2 Audio [FF40]
Desktop 2: 94% of the systems scanned by the Game Advisor rank higher
Processor Intel Pentium II 350MHz
Display Card ATI AIW 3D RAGE PRO TURBO
Memory 384MB
Display Card Memory 1MB
Sound Card N/A (Yamaha onboard audio)
Note: I just replaced the GF2 MX for this AIW, I could play smaller UT2003 DM maps on this box!
Laptop 1(HP
Re:Performance spread (Score:2)
Processor Intel Pentium M 1862MHz
Display Card NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Go
Memory 1024MB
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Free Disk Space 5.46GB
Display Card Memory 256MB
Display Driver Version 6.7.7.1
DirectX Version 9.0c
Optical Drive CD/DVD
Sound Card SigmaTel C-Major Audio
My System Performance
Your system is among the top 13% of all systems scanned by the Game Advis
Good to know.... (Score:3, Funny)
Atleast I can show my wife this when she see's next months credit card bill and there is another $1600 added to it....
Friedmud
My system... (Score:1)
Data Collection (Score:2)
No one here actually thought this was an aid for gamers did they???
Top 22% (Score:2)
That stuff is all about 1-2 years old.
Maybe it's true the hardware pushthrough is slower these days.
I certainly don't feel the need to upgrade, I just got Fear running in 1280 it's sexy.
Bottom 6%; Top 21% (Score:1)
P4 2.6 @ 2.8
MSI 6600 Diamond @ 525/1050
Gig of noname RAM.
It's about 2, maybe 2.5 years old now (except for the gfx card), runs Quake 4 just fine. Didn't have time to play FEAR yet.
P2 350 w/ 384 megs of RAM and an ATI AIW-Rage Pro
Load Of Rubbish (Score:1)
Re:Load Of Rubbish (Score:1)
Worthless (Score:1)
Hell, the now-ancient DXDiag utility is more useful than this for determining system capabilities.
Utterly pointless. Don't waste your time.
My Puter rox0rs (Score:1)
I so rule. No wonder the chicks love me.
AMD64 3500+
Radeon x800Pro
1204MB RAM
First Percentile (Score:2)
Well... that's what the scan would have said if my current Linux box actually ran Windows!
Is this some market survey by Microsoft in an attempt to determine how much cruft their games can handle? To this day I will never understand the amount of resources PC games require.
I find Games are now taking up over 500MB of RAM regularly. OK Texture resolutions are increasing, but has noone heard of streaming technology? Console games manage
Wow- er, I mean WWOW... (Score:2)
Powerbooks really do suck for gaming (Score:2)
Not New for Different Reasons (Score:1)
Contrast Microsoft's utility with the Aspyr Game Agent [aspyr.com], which does approximately the same thing but is a self-contained application that doesn't require a specific browser to work. And it's gone through numerous revisions for new games.
Granted, it only works on certain uncool [apple.com] systems, and only compares the system against the requirements for the one manufacturer/developer house, but it still seems like they have a more elegant solution.
Work PC can play games but I can't. (Score:1)
"Your system is among the top 9% of all systems scanned by the Game Advisor."
Fantastic. Now if only I can get this thing to convince my manager that installing Quake 4 will increase my productivity to be amoong the top 9% of employees...