Should You Wait For The PS3? 110
News for nerds writes "Though Xbox 360 is launching tomorrow in the U.S. to usher the next-generation of game consoles, the champion of the current generation has been quiet... until now. From the CNN Money article with words from Sony's CEO, Sir Howard Stringer: 'Sir Howard said the PS3 will sell for $300 to $400 and will come with a bundle of games, movies, and TV shows, many of which Sony also makes. The question is whether the titles will be bundled on Blu-ray DVD discs or on a built-in hard drive.'" Update: 11/22 22:22 GMT by Z : Chris Morris over at CNN emailed to let us know that there have been signifiCant changes to the story since it was originally posted.
Another way of posing the question... (Score:2, Insightful)
How about Revolution? (Score:1, Insightful)
Re:How about Revolution? (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:1)
I'll probably buy an Xbox 360 some time next year, but I am never going to buy another Sony product again.
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:1)
> another Sony product again.
No music CDs, DVDs, camera, laptop, cinema release, walkman etc..? Really? For how long?
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:1)
"Oh nos! Not that!"
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:3, Interesting)
That said, though, Sony was very wrong for releasing such a nasty piece of software. If I put a CD in my machine and it installs spyware, I'm going to be PISSED.
As for being a hypocrite, though, it's really unavoidable. The world is too complex to always behave consistently, and nobody has time to keep track of every issue even within their o
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:2)
No offense, but that's like boycotting Wal-Mart...if you do it alone, you're pretty much just a loon on a street corner predicting the end of the world.
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:5, Insightful)
The Sony Playstation people I have spoken to / met (both online and in real person) all seemed nice and down-to-earth - not evil, moneygrabbing monsters.
The 2 issues don't need to be mixed, imho.
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:4, Insightful)
Sony and Microsoft are both about the same. Feel free to buy the system of your choice, but don't fool yourself into thinking one company is signifigantly better then the other. Either way you're money is feeding the beast.
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Tell me which company that is so I can short the shares.
Seriously though, if one department is doing the wrong thing you can't buy a product and say "Don't give any of this money to department X". And if you find out that your company is doing something wrong, very wrong, you can't just wash your hands of it and say, "That's not my department".
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read it yourself.
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:4, Insightful)
Of course not. Its the people above them that are the problematic persons.
The Sony Playstation people I have spoken to / met (both online and in real person) all seemed nice and down-to-earth - not evil, moneygrabbing monsters.
There are nice people that work for telemarketing and companies that border line in fraud. I don't have anything against them either and I'm not going to chastise them for trying to make a living.
The 2 issues don't need to be mixed, imho.
If my money indirectly or directly supports their profit margin then yes it does.
Secondly, how do you not know that DRM technology from another department will be used on the PS3?
Sure the nice guy geeks in PS3 won't include DRM, but what if the upper management or VP says they will use it? I remember a few kickass software devs that worked for a particular gaming company who were forced by their publisher to include pervasive anti-copying software on their game which they themselves disagreed with on their own forums.
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:2)
Too bad for them. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. If they don't like it, they can go form their own company that doesn't put the word "Sony" on their products.
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Since Sony isn't actually selling the PS3 yet, you don't know that they will be sold at a loss. Second point, you're wrong if you think sales of Xbox 360s don't help MS.
If you were to buy 30 million XBox 360 units, developers would see the 360 as a successful platform, more games would be developed, and more people would buy the hardware. If you were joking, it wasn't funny. If
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:1)
Haha. Ok:
Point A: Developers are going to make games for the 360 anyway, even if it starts off selling bad. Look at the Dreamcast for proof of that.
Point B: It's quite clear that the PS3 will be sold at a lost. I think you could ask anyone who knows anything about it at this point and 99% of them would be sure it will be... I mean the chips themselves cost $175 a piece as it is right now.. that's already as much as they could afford for the entire console at $400 on the standard retail scale.
Point C:
Re:Another way of posing the question... (Score:1)
Gamers have their games. Developers have a platform designed around their needs. Publishers have their money. And MS is a few steps closer to their goal of world domination. Everybody's happy (almost).
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here's a novel idea... (Score:1, Insightful)
Seriously the prices on these things are just insane.
Re:here's a novel idea... (Score:1)
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PC games are not more in-depth and detailed. That's a myth. I don't know where it came from, but it sure gets repeated a lot. I spend about half my gaming time on a PC, half on a console. The games are pretty much the same, except the PC has all t
Re:here's a novel idea... (Score:1)
First, I just want to say that I was trying to reinforce the post I replied to. I think it's better to just upgrade or build a new computer than get the 360 or PS3.
Now, I will try to cite some examples of the differences in depth of play. Let's start with FPSs. Halo 2 is the current most popular online console FPS, but how does it compare to PC games? I find several computer FP
Re:here's a novel idea... (Score:1)
But there are many other classes of games that PCs do poorly, if at all. There's nothing that comes close to Super Monkey Ball, Katamari Damacy, Gradius V, Soul Calibur, OutRun 2, SingStar or Mario Sunshine, to pick just a few games I play on consoles.
Re:here's a novel idea... (Score:1)
See, now... graphics are one of the main things I play PC games for. In my experience, PC games are where you get the best experience if you're looking for a game that rehashes an old idea, but does it prettier, with better sound, and maybe a tiny new gimmick or two. Now, that's good. I like PC games for that.
However, if you're talking about quality gaming where graphics don't matter, it seems to me that you should actually be talking about Nintendo.
Re:here's a novel idea... (Score:2)
$300-$400? The current cost per chip ATM is $150! (Score:2, Informative)
Re:$300-$400? The current cost per chip ATM is $15 (Score:3, Informative)
Yes, you should wait for the PS3 (Score:3, Funny)
As for getting the PS3, I'd highly suggest you pass.
Re:Yes, you should wait for the PS3 (Score:2)
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Consumerism (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Consumerism (Score:3, Funny)
Here's a coupon for a free big mac, now remember to go out on Friday and BUY BUY BUY!!!
Re:Consumerism (Score:2)
Re:Consumerism (Score:3, Insightful)
Somehow I missed the whole point of the movie until I rewatched the remastered DVD version. And then I felt funny about buying remastered DVD.
Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents and be happy.
Re:Consumerism (Score:2)
Not waiting (Score:2)
Re:Sony? why? (Score:1)
They're both not worth the dough (Score:4, Insightful)
XBOX360 and PS3 bring nothing new to gaming, in my opinion. I AM really tired of things like FIFA 2023 and Splinter Cell XVII.
But if Nintendo really pull off their controller ideas... I believe this is good for a genuine gaming experience.
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:1)
Nintendo got the pricing right with the GC and will stick to that if they're not totally braindead.
We have four kids, and no other gaming console could ever beat the fun the Nintendo boxen are when played by a mixed-generation crowd.
Uh, it just occured to me that maybe this is not what the XBOX360 or PS3 are about...
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:1)
I think you mean either.
" And don't forget the new Mario play to bridge"
I cant even guess what Mario will play to bridge.
"I understand that Nintendo want to innovate, but they are still planing sequel to overuse game title. Not counting their highly marketing behaviour with all the accessory going out usefull to only some game, but still mandatory for those game(All remember the Multiplayer option of FF:CC and Zelda:Four sword). "
This one is especially b
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:2)
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:1)
Maybe not all Zeldas take place in the same time line/dimension. So in universe #65545 Gannon wasn't bested by a boy with a magic sword at a particular point in time.
Re:They're both not worth the dough (Score:2)
As opposed to Super Mario Revolution, Metroid Prime Revolution, Legend of Zelda: Revolution, Pokemon Revolution, Donkey Kong Revolution, Resident Evil Revolution, F-Zero Revolution, Mario Kart Revolution and Harvest Moon Revolution?
(I own a GameCube.)
Neither (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Neither (Score:1)
*insert catcy subject title here* (Score:1)
More games (Score:5, Insightful)
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i am an xbox and playstation2 owner, so i happen to disagree with you on your second point as well. the xbox is nice, but i would truly feel burnt if i bought my xbox at the full release price. ive gotten my enjoyment out of it, but there are not nearly as many games available for it as i would like. i still want t
Re:More games (Score:2)
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Wow, can you tell me who's going to win the superbowl this year? I'd like to make some extra cash from your clairvoance.
The systems aren't even out. PS3 can't slaughter anything yet.
Re:More games (Score:3, Informative)
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PS3 rootkit? (Score:1, Troll)
Re:PS3 rootkit? (Score:1)
Oh yeah (Score:2)
This is the PS2 campaign all over again...
(And I bet it won't cost anywhere near $300-$400 either.)
Bodacious? (Score:1)
Perhaps he's part of "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure [imdb.com] in poor writing".
Re:Bodacious? (Score:1)
Is its sub heading.
Hardly shameless advertising, the recent CNN articles have actually been some of the more balanced views on whats going on.
Killer move... (Score:1)
What would really be a killer move on Microsoft's part would be to apply their apparent emulation software savvy to drive a spike into one of PS3's best features: backwards compatibility.
I mean, if the XBox 360 can support emulating the XBox, what would stop Microsoft from writing emulators for other consoles such as Playstation and Playstation 2? I mean, sure, they can't use the BIOS but it's already been proven that you don't exactly even need it anyway.
And, legally speaking, Bleem! already set pre
Re:Killer move... (Score:2)
If anything, look for that sort of move from Nintendo. Nintendo does seem to have true emulation, look at the Zelda disk for the Cube- it has Zelda I, II, Ocarina, amd Majora's Mask on it. They have simialr setups for other series, and they plan to use it for backwards compat
Re:Killer move... (Score:2, Informative)
Barely? In a limited amount of time of development, they were able to ABLY develop an XBox emulator way better than anything else you'll find right now, that emulated both the CPU and GPU rather precisely. A few of the games on the list have a few problems, but many are minor and are expected to be fixed in the next update.
It also upgrades the graphics resolution quite a bit with antialiasing and 720p. Pretty nice.
Nintendo will definitely make good on their first party titles being emulated as well as
Re:Killer move... (Score:2)
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Besides the fact that Bleem! does not set the precedent for something like this and I'm sure Sony's lawyers would sue Microsoft all the way from here to Japan if they tried emulating the PS1 or PS2.
PS3 (Score:3, Interesting)
If Xbox 360 has some really cool games that I really want to play then sure I'll get a 360, until then PS all the way.
The whole Sony/Microsoft whose worse just doesn't matter to me, as it probably doesn't matter to the %99.99 that aren't registered to slashdot.
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Quantity Over Quality (Score:1)
I've always felt Sony followed the quantity over quality approach. Especially when the Playstation One was out. Sure they had some great games but there were a lot of other that were pure crap. More so than the other systems. I think Sony just wanted to get as many out as possible so that when people went to the store, saw all the games that Sony offered compaired to Nintendo it'd be a reason for a person t
Why not get both? (Score:2)
Re:Why not get both? (Score:2)
In that case, it comes down to wha
Re:Why not get both? (Score:3, Insightful)
Unfortunately, we now have rent/morgages and utilities to pay, food to buy, student loans to pay off, medical bills... I'm asking my mommy for a gamecube for Christmas.
No, actually, I'm not willing - or able, honestly - to pay $400 for a freaking game console, plus $50 per game. My SNES has served me well all these years, but I've just about played it out and it's time to upgrade. Even as a gift, though, I
Re:Why not get both? (Score:2)
For myself, I plan on probably buying a
All About the Games (Score:3, Interesting)
With the last generation, I picked up a PS2 and a Gamecube (not at the same time mind you). I had friends with XBoxen, and they had some decent games, but nothing that was exclusive that would make me go and spend more money on hardware to play. And the PS2 and GC had titles that I had wanted to play more.
This generation, I'm waiting. I might pick up the YBox, I might not. Ditto for the PS3, or the Revo. All three sound good, sound like they've got some pretty impressive specs and design philosphies all around. But I'm going to wait until the PS3 comes out to see how the games play on it, and see which of the first two I'm going to go for. Not to discount the Revo of course.
But I'll base my decisions on how developers use the new hardware to do something interesting, because I don't care to play yet another console FPS or RPG unless it's different, and not just in the better graphics department.
Re:All About the Games (Score:1)
Did you learn nothing from Office Space?
Easy way to make a purchase decision (Score:1)
I have trouble believing I enjoy reading all the hype about the systems.
But I guess that is how you find the killer game (app).
The Xbox 360 will likely have a shortage no matter what.
For me, it is all about the games.
1. Most systems that first launch are pricey, have issues and don't have great games.
2. Wait until the dust settles, take a look at a variety of systems and games over time.
3. And when your awesome games debut, buy that system and the g
Re:Easy way to make a purchase decision (Score:2)
MGS3 was a joy to play as well.
I also discovered Singstar, which is great fun (and oops, non-violent)
Great Strategy in Front Mission 4.
Good fighters such as Naruto or Soul Caliber.
Get a PS2 today and treat yourself to a great library of games (Heck, get it secondhand, with networkcard, hard drive, mod chip for more fun fun fun)
Choose? (Score:1)
Wait for the PS3? (Score:1)
*shrug* (Score:1)
XBOX360 = waste of time and money (Score:1)
XBox 360: another Microsoft mistake (Score:1)
This truly proves that MicroSoft is a company built on luck and monopoly.
My jaw dropped as I saw a fat, stupid manager at WalMart actually be AMUSED that he turned away dozens of people willing to spend $400 EACH on a product from his store.
So now I am so pissed off, I will not buy a 360 until the price goes down. Good job, Bill!!!!!!!!
Bodacious Apologies to Slashdot (Score:1)