PSP Still Struggling For Notice 111
TheStreet.com is reporting that the 360 has captured the hype machine for this Christmas season. The PSP, meanwhile, is still struggling for mindshare compared to Nintendo's offerings. From the article: "Sony launched the PSP in the U.S. to great acclaim earlier this year and sold more than half a million units in the first two days. The device marked the first effort by Sony, the leader in the console game industry for the last 10 years with its PlayStation and PlayStation 2 systems, to enter the portable game market, which has been dominated by Nintendo ... Right now, the PSP's threat to Nintendo -- much less to Apple -- remains hypothetical. Sales of the PSP are disappointing thus far, particularly this holiday season. Through the end of October, Sony had sold just 1.6 million of the devices after the first days' sales flurry."
Re:Even though sales suck I still don't regret my. (Score:2, Interesting)
For still images, yes, it's gorgeous, but its response time is horrible. I was excited for GTA, but the constant ghosting makes me sick (not to mention the aforementioned ass-sucking analog nub).
Maybe... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re:Maybe... (Score:2)
1. Allow more customization of the platform. Seriously, there needs to be more to this device than movies, mostly crappy or just plain ported games (giving the sensation of deja vu), and a handful of mp3s that are fighting for space with your save files. The only problem is that the hardware Sony has already locked themselves into with this device limits some of the expansion capability of it unless they want to turn it into a gamer's PDA
Re:Maybe... (Score:2)
Also, I'm guessing that Sony would rather not sell a PSP to a person that's likely only to run an emulator.
I think the PSP is cool and all, it's pretty expensive. One PSP game costs about as much as two GBA games, 1.5 DS games. One PSP costs about as much as three SPs or two DSs. It's not hard to imagine why the PSP might not perform so well (economically) in comparison despite the unit b
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If you want to make a personal choice to avoid tainting yourself by owning further Sony products, I understand, agree with and applaud your efforts. But don't dellude yourself into thinking that Sony actually notices, let alone cares. If you're going to do it, make sure you're doing it for yourself,
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What the-- (Score:3)
Erm, what? How many have they sold? And when? According to the wikipedia article [wikipedia.org] they have sold 10 million units worldwide through October 21st, 4.5 million in the US alone.
(This isn't a comment on whether those are disappointing numbers or not, just that the quoted sentence was pretty unhelpful.)
Re:What the-- (Score:5, Informative)
IE: If retailers order 10 for their stock and don't sell them, you've shipped 10 units, but you're not shipping more until some of those 10 units sell.
I'm not sure how many units Nintendo has actually shipped worldwide. I'm positive it's higher than 10 mil if they've sold 8 mil.
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You're right, I did mis-read that in the Wiki article. The sentence I referred to above is still confusing as hell though.
Re:What the-- (Score:1)
According to the article(not the wikipedia link), Sony has sold 1.6 mil in the US. They've sold about that in Japan too. So I'm guessing they're floating at somewhere between 4 and 5 million.
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Who are these people? (Score:5, Insightful)
Slow out the gate? Wtf? Slow out the gate is having your console selling game released 6 months AFTER the system is released. Having a PS2 port come out a YEAR after the system is released is trying to breath life into the dead.
Sony just plain mismanaged the PSP. The movies offer little that DVDs don't outmatch, let alone the bonuses. The games are few, far and are often times nothing more than ports. Online capabilities is a joke, and trying to stop the PSP hackers has more or less alienated the PSP as a portable hackable Xbox.
Re:Who are these people? (Score:1, Informative)
What, exactly, does this sentence mean... in English? "Having your console selling game released 6 month after the system is released"? What PS2 port came out a year after the system was released? The system hasn't even been out for a year.
Re:Who are these people? (Score:2)
You say they're not ports, but did the gameplay change? No? Then they're just the same old games but probably with some
Re:Who are these people? (Score:1)
All of the games you listed had new content in each and every one of them, and
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just because the
Re:Who are these people? (Score:2)
Well let me say that I'm just the opposite..
When I was teenager I didn't mind the fact that I had to be tied down to a
It gets worse for the PSP (Score:3, Informative)
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2)
Huh? They sold 1.6 million this year, vs 2.2 million DS's. That's a gap of less than 500k, and these are devices that cost considerably more. The chart shows they've sold more than the PS2! So you look at a 7-day period and claim the sales are better? I'm sure we can find an arbitrary 7-day period where the PSP sold more, too.
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2, Informative)
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2)
Eh. We'll see. It hasn't even been a year yet, no less five. Far too soon to look back and tell. Remember, the PS1 had a really, really slow start as well. They were also up against Nintendo, and Sega. Two huge names in the industry, and no one expects the Playstation to go anywhere. Nor did it,
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2)
Besides, Square
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Also, when the PS was released, the N64 hadn't hit yet, and SEGA had gone through the whole series of half-supported addons, then complimented that with a seeming allergy to money with the Saturn.
We'll see, it's not over yet, but things really aren't looking good for Sony.
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2)
because nintendo is in first place on the handheld front does not equate to "teh pwning of the psp!1!!1!ONE!ONE!!!1!". the psp has already outsold the gamegear [relative to the timeframe]. as for title slowdown... what are you talking about? i assume you dont own a psp and therefore are not aware of the titles coming down the pipe.
hard
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2)
500k is around 30% of the 1.6 million PSPs out there. 30% is a sizeable gap.
"and these are devices that cost considerably more."
And that helps how? Fewer units is fewer units. Game companies don't care about how much the hardware costs so much as how large the installed base is.
"The chart shows they've sold more than the PS2!"
This is Japan we're talking about: everybody there already owns 8 PS2s, one of each color (heck, even I have two). And the PS2 is on the wane ("ZO
Re:It gets worse for the PSP (Score:2, Informative)
It's certainly possible but not likely [photobucket.com]. More info on Japanese sales [pcvsconsole.com].
Re:I KNOW HOW TO SELL MORE UNITS (Score:1)
Still trying to decide... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:Still trying to decide... (Score:3, Funny)
2 things I see. (Score:2)
2. Poor handling of QC regarding the monitors have a lot of people afraid of QC issues with the unit. If Sony's selling the unit just to sell the games, they should spend whatever it takes to make su
Keep it or ditch it? (Score:4, Insightful)
The PSP's been the best handheld ever in my opinion.
As soon as someone cracks the new firmware, 2.6?, I'll go games shopping again, since the two games I've waited for are out now. (Boku no watashi no katamari damashii and GTA, for those keeping score...)
Well (Score:4, Funny)
Wait...
Re:Keep it or ditch it? (Score:2)
Or, if I want to stay illegal, like you suggest, I can go flash rom, and run play 2500 GBA ports? Gosh, I've got that feature already on the PSP.
Re:Keep it or ditch it? (Score:2, Insightful)
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If anything it's giving more credibility to Nintendo's Virtual Console idea for the Revolution.
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Not sure how well the PSP SNES Emulator works, but SNESDS, a SNES emulator for NintendoDS, is not really that usable, its a good proof of concept, but not really much more, havn't tested the SNES emu for GBA, might be more solid, but GBA lacks a few buttons.
Beside from that Nintendo handhelds have no way to load ROMs, you need extra hardware to accomplish that and that hardware is quite expensive (~100EUR), w
Re:Keep it or ditch it? (Score:2)
The SNES emulator on the PSP runs quite well.
Re:Keep it or ditch it? (Score:2, Informative)
I dont know how recently you tried the SNES emulator but it can play a fair few games at full speed, and each update a great deal more are added. A fair distance from being completed and I dont think on par with the PSP but SNES9x (the PSP one ive tried. There may be others.) is
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PSP needs more good ORIGINAL games (Score:4, Insightful)
Gripshift [gripshiftgame.com] is the most original game I've seen in a while on any console. Currently it's the only PSP game I'm playing. I own several others, but they just didn't last long because I've played them all before..
Even better, Gripshift was made right here in little old New Zealand.
Give me a reason (Score:2)
I wonder why.. (Score:4, Insightful)
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Re:I wonder why.. (Score:2)
wipeout pure is still releasing more downloadable content, lumines is still just as addictive. Metal Gear Acid and ridge racer are still begging me to finish them. i get to play catchup on tv shows i missed by downloading and encoding them beforehand. i dont see what the big fuss is over. maybe its just that i don
it needs games (Score:1)
Re:it needs games (Score:2)
I must be the only person on Slashdot who bought a PSP and is happy with it as is. I don't care for modding it, hell I don't even care for watching movies on it. I got it only to play games and that's something it does very well.
Given the price difference between the PSP and the DS, I can see why the DS is doing a much better job. Plus I do think that the DS has more games that are good. The PSP certa
You bought *one* game, but you're happy? (Score:2)
Maybe I misread, so let me get this straight: You shelled out the full price of the PSP, bought only 1 (in words: one) game for it and are happy with your purchase?
Either you bought your PSP only a few days ago, or you're so stinking rich that you don't mind paying hundreds of dollars for being able to play one single game.
Re:You bought *one* game, but you're happy? (Score:2)
It came with Ridge Racer as part of the bundle, so I actually own 2 (in words: two) games and I am happy with my purchase!
I would not say I am stinking rich by any measure, but the PSP wasn't a terrible tax on the wallet because I shopped around for ages and eventually got one duty free.
I don't play it that much, I would say probably 2 or 3 hours a week tops. Mostly I use it while waiting for stuff (in the care while waiting for GF to come out of work, while sitting in the
Re:You bought *one* game, but you're happy? (Score:2)
I've had my DS for about 5 months. I own about 20 games. Part of the difference may be that I use it a lot more than you do. I commute to work by train, so there's an hour of gaming I have every weekday, no matter what. I simply can't play the same game for months. Or even weeks. Because sooner or later, you finish it, or it gets boring. Or you simply need something new. Sure, Meteos is awesome, but if I had to play Meteos an hour every day, I'd have a nervous breakdown.
Or maybe you aren't playing more bec
Memory Stick (Score:2)
I'm moving away from Sony's hardware precisely because of the memory cards. I bought a P800 three years ago. It has a Memory Stick DUO, so I couldn't use the Memory Sticks I already had in it. Would I buy the new P990 now, I couldn't use the DUO sticks in it, because it has Pro DUO sticks. And I can't use those sticks in any of the other devices I own
Re:it needs games (Score:1)
I like Lumines and I play it on my roommates PSP but to be honest it's no where near as fun as Meteos.
Even my anti-Nintendo sony fanboy roommate agrees.
Where are the games? (Score:4, Interesting)
So I'm left with my PSP and almost no games. I've played others (Mercury, Twisted Metal, and a few others) but there is no killer game for the PSP in my eyes (Lumines is great, but I don't think it was THAT great); and there doesn't seem to be in anyone else's (I figured it would be GTA:LCS, but I guess I was wrong).
Compare that to the DS. It was slow at first but we got Yoshi's Touch & Go, Wario Ware, Castlevania, Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Mr Driller (not new, but the second screen really helped), Phoenix Wright, Kirby: Cursed Canvas, Trauma Center, Mario & Luigi, and I know there are some I'm leaving out. Nintendogs was a massive breakout hit.
The DS has more great games right now, the PSP doesn't. Some of the titles they promoted haven't done well (Death Jr. turned out to be a bit of a dud). The mainstays aren't there (no MGS, Acid doesn't count; GTA didn't have a big impact; a Ratchet & Clank or Jak & Daxter game isn't out yet; we're waiting on Gran Turismo Mobile; etc). A quick look at the release date calendar over at IGN shows nothing I am interested in with a real date, or even a quarter. The next stuff is just "TBA '06". The only thing I can think of that is out now that I want to see is Tokobot which looks interesting but the reviews range from a 50% to a 90% and are all over the map (means it will be a rental at best).
I've had fun with my PSP, but it will be a while before the next game I'm interested in comes out. (Can't even think of what it is). But the DS has those games that just came out I mentioned (Mario & Luigi, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart) plus more comming (Metroid Prime Hunters) in the not to distant future. There is even a title in the Black & White series scheduled to come out in February. And let's not forget the new
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Being one with disposable income enough to buy a game now and again, my DS is getting more play than my xbox, PC, PS2 combined. It is by far my favorite system since the NES. And thats saying alot from a guy who has gotten pretty much every system in the last 15 years (save original PS and
Bingo. (Score:2)
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Overheard... (Score:4, Funny)
Doh! Looks like someone will be asking for a DS for Christmas... Even when Sony manages to get one sold, they still haven't truly taken the "mindshare"...
I Saw One on Display (Score:2, Interesting)
Finally I got to the menu and tried to start a new game and
I actually felt kind of stupid just standing there waiting for this thing to load. I started looking around and saw the new Xbox 360 displayed impressively on a high resolution monitor. I noticed all the new DS games I'd like to play. I no
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unless the owner set his personal PSP out so that everyone can play around with it, its well known that sony doesnt have or permit PSP display units. nice try though...
Stating the Obvious (Score:1, Informative)
Game Gear vs. Gameboy
PSP vs. Nintendo DS
The common denominator is the price difference. The fact that a product is far superior doesn't mean that it will sell better. People will usually go with a lower cost alternative. And often if they can afford the more expensive product they end up buying the cheaper one also.
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PS2 and Xbox vs Gamecube?
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Windows vs Linux
MS Office vs OpenOffice
SQL Server vs PostgreSQL
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Where is Java? (Score:2)
As a PSP owner, let me just say... (Score:3, Interesting)
Of course, if you're more interested in NES, go for it. I haven't tried Genny/MD yet, but I imagine it runs better than the SNES code (i. e. full speed).
I got my PSP because of what I could put on it (ROMs and the occasional MP3, but I got something smaller that plays MP3s with no DRM crap), not for what Sony could put on. I have yet to see any compelling UMDs to buy, be it game or movie (but my opinion of the movies may be skewed by my refusal to buy movies from MPAA members).
Modern games? Well, I know I'm getting Animal Crossing for Christmas...
Note to trolls: I've only played the ROMs of cartridges I own (and still own) and dumped myself with my SWC. Take your holier-than-thou attitude and shove it.
Re:As a PSP owner, let me just say... (Score:2)
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Anyone have any first-hand experience with these things?
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Sometimes, companies just die (Score:2)
Re:Sometimes, companies just die (Score:1)
Well, there are probably a lot of grunts who are honest, but it seems nearly all who make decisions worth any value are completely brain-dead.
Hype machine? (Score:2)
Too bad the hype card is only played when the product fails to meet expectations and fails to gain word-of-mouth marketing (which great products always have).
Oh wait, I think I misread the article. Maybe the Hype Machine is the name (or codename) of the next generation of XBox.
I just got confused prematurely (my girlfriend hates it too).
Backwards compatibility (Score:3)
Established market, backward compatible, IDEAS (Score:2)
I'm a new PSP owner (Score:1)