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Large PS3 Launch, Nintendo Resolutions 54

Posted by Zonk from the good-to-have-goals dept.
ConfusedFX writes "GameDAILY has published a news article featuring Reggie Fils-Aime, Nintendo's Executive Vice President of Sales. He had several things to say about Nintendo's 2006 strategy, one of which, 'We will sell more units than Xbox 360 did here in the United States in our launch window.' He commented about Xbox 360 owners spending nearly $800 at launch; he wants the Nintendo Revolution to be 'affordable' to the average gamer. Additionally, GameDAILY has posted an interview with Andy Parsons, senior VP of Pioneer Electronics, written by The Digital Bits. Some analysts expect the PS3 to launch with around 1 million units -- Andy says he's heard differently from Sony. 'If Sony ships the kind of numbers we expect them to this year, that will provide a very rapid growth of players out there hungry for titles. We've been hearing between 4 and 7 million units could ship.'"
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  • when launching a new product, make sure there's enough to go around. even if said product is nominally produced by a bunch of right bastards.
    • For sure.

      Especially since the whole concept of Pre-orders at any game store is so that a customer can be guaranteed to receive their order on "Launch". Myself, as many others have, stated to EB and Gamestop that there is no point in relying on their pre-order system since you guys accept too much business knowing that you won't meet the demand. Might as well satisfy your gaming needs at best buy or wal-mart, cause its the same kind of waiting as it is for pre-orders now. My boss had a pre-order for th
      • So I took a trip to EB Games recently to reserve my own Nintendo Revolution, and I was promptly greeted by a "Sorry Dude... we ain't takin' preorders fer the Revolution."

        Once I got passed the "dude's" outrageous lack of self-pride and good grammar. I then asked him if he knew when they might start taking preorders.

        *tumbleweed rolls across the store front*

        I figured I'd try to talk to him about what he did know about the Revolution.

        *tumbleweed rolls across the store front*

        Finally... I was like,
    • Has everyone already forgotten how horribly the PS2 launch went??? lol

  • It won't be hard to beat the XBox 360 (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 19, 2006 @03:26PM (#14512041)
    Seriously, saying you'te going to beat the XBox 360's launch is basically like saying 'We are not retards, and we're not rushing our product to market.'

    The XBox 360 had 400,000 units available at launch and has only delivered a couple hundred thousand since then; Nintendo (with the Gamecube) had 500,000 on launch day with 500,000 released that month (which I would expect to be the minimum we would see from the Revolution).

    Also, Nintendo's Price point comments could probably be replaced with "We are trying to sell for as low as $200, but that seems unlikely, so we're determining whether $225 or $250 is a better price point; we're just going to tell you under $300 so that when we announce it at $225 or $250 you'll be happily surprised. (Plus if we're lucky enough to get the manufacturing costs low enough to sell it at $200, you'll probably mess your pants)"
    • "We are trying to sell for as low as $200, but that seems unlikely, so we're determining whether $225 or $250 is a better price point; we're just going to tell you under $300 so that when we announce it at $225 or $250 you'll be happily surprised. (Plus if we're lucky enough to get the manufacturing costs low enough to sell it at $200, you'll probably mess your pants)"

      In terms of a) stressing the characteristics of the system that have to do with game play and b) pitching their product at a price I can im

  • Predictions... (Score:4, Informative)

    by ZephyrXero ( 750822 ) <zephyrxero@[ ]oo.com ['yah' in gap]> on Thursday January 19, 2006 @04:10PM (#14512483) Homepage Journal
    Revolution will come out within a month of Thanksgiving weekend (aka black friday), and it will launch for $250 or less... probably right at 200 I'm thinking... It will sell fairly well, but people will be confused by it at first... They will probably just sell around a million units in the US at first to the few people who get it... of course, overtime I think it will explode, but the kind of people who spend "$800" on an Xbox 360...ie...the first wave buyers will be too obsessed with their PS3s and the Xbox360's second gen of titles.

    As for the PS3 it may or may not go so well... There are 3 factors, cost, quantity and the quality of launch titles as comparable to the 360's games that are already out before launch... I can see it going for as high as $499.99, but if they go any higher it'll probably flop. If they can't get at least a million units to the US before Christmas that could be another major stumbling block (they couldn't handle the PS2 launch). And launch titles almost always suck, so they better be working their asses off to get some sort of must have title at launch. Another problem is that by the time PS3 comes out developers should finally be figuring out how to write a little parallel code for the 360, taking advantage of all 3 cores, and start really exploiting the power of the system, so PS3's graphical prowess may not be as apparent as people think it will be.

    A few more here... Halo 3 probably won't be out by the launch of the PS3, but I can almost guarentee we'll see a few trailers, if not a demo even by then... Zelda: Twighlight Princess will probably be released around June and won't take advantage of the Revolution anymore than any other Gamecube games will...and the redesigned DS will probably come out right around the same time too.
    • So far, Twilight Princess is set for 4/1/06. Has it been pushed back again, or are you just guessing?

    • Re:Predictions... (Score:3, Interesting)

      by SetupWeasel ( 54062 )
      I believe very strongly that Zelda and the Revolution will release within a month of each other. Since the Revolution plays GC games natively it would be a mistake not to release what would be such a huge Revolution-selling game so far a way. I expect Zelda to prime the market for the Rev's release sort of a pre-launch game to get the Nintendo name on everyone's lips.

      Just my prediction.

      It will sell fairly well, but people will be confused by it at first.

      Depends on the number of demo units they have. If they
    • I think the chances of seeing a redesigned DS before the Rev is released are slightly less than 1%. It seems more likely for Nintendo to focus on Rev development to have the best launch possible. Then in the 3 month game drought that usually follows a console release, you'll see a redesigned DS coming out.

  • What is going to happen to Microsoft and the 360? (Score:3, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday January 19, 2006 @04:10PM (#14512484)
    It appears that the 360 is getting pushed off the mind of the public and everything is turning into Nintendo Revolution and Sony PS3.

    Can anyone give a plausible scenario where Microsoft can remain relevant to the next gen race?

    I am looking at the release list of games for the 360 over the next year and it looks like all the same type of games that the first xbox had. There doesn't seem any reason for anyone to buy a 360 who didn't already buy the first xbox.

    The more I read about the supposed specs of the Revolution the more it sounds like it will, outside of higher resolution, easily outpace the 360 in performance. The dual 970ish CPU that is in the Revolution will easily outperform the 360 CPU - which looks like it has realworld performance around a 2 to 2.5GHz dual 970 system. And the custom ATI graphics system in the Revolution sounds like it will be much more advanced than the essentially current gen pc GPU in the 360 - outside of resolution once again.

    • Re:What is going to happen to Microsoft and the 36 (Score:4, Insightful)

      by MMaestro ( 585010 ) on Thursday January 19, 2006 @06:25PM (#14513703)
      Can anyone give a plausible scenario where Microsoft can remain relevant to the next gen race?

      Theres two plausible scenarios that can play out that'll serious help Microsoft's 360.

      1. The PS3 launch is more or less as bad as the 360's. (Remember, they bungled the PS2 AND the PSP launches so it is possible) Between the 360's early foothold on the market and the lack of any first-gen titles that take advantage of the hardware (which is true for ANY hardware), the PS3 crumbles between the 360's early launch the Nintendo Revolution's 'we complement, not replace, the 360 and/or PS3' strategy. Throw in Sony's poor economic state and the fact that the PS2 is simply far too old to be of any contest and after 3 or so years, the PS3 is axed to cut losses.

      2. Blu-Ray doesn't catch on for whatever reason, take your pick from too high costs to dislike of DRM to movie studios/customers do not support it (again, likely given Sony's past). Because of the added costs from the Blu-Ray drive and the lack of the same movie support the PS2 recieved with DVDs, the PS3 flounders since it cannot support itself solely as a video game system due to the extreme hardware costs. Again Nintendo survives with its video game-only system strategy and Microsoft survives either from HD-DVDs or it simply drives the PS3 off the market.

    • It appears that the 360 is getting pushed off the mind of the public and everything is turning into Nintendo Revolution and Sony PS3.

      That's definately to be expected. The public and press are always going to be interested in the next, newest things. That's what happened with the Gamecube and Xbox. There was an enormous amount of press about those two consoles, yet the PS2 obviously reigned supreme in the end.

      Wait until 2007 rolls around, when all consoles have (presumably) launched, and then see what the p

      • Controller too "drastic"? Rubbish! (Score:1, Interesting)

        by Anonymous Coward
        > It seems people are either really excited about the new control
        > scheme, or think it's going to fall flat on their face. I'm all
        > for controller improvements, and Nintendo has shown it is fully
        > capable of performing here (we have them to thank for analog
        > sticks and the trigger button), but this is a pretty drastic
        > thing.

        If you hint at the
        Revolution-will-flop-because-its-controller-i s-too-"out-there"
        argument, then you must, in fairness, address the obvious
        counter-arguments:

        1) Ye


        • If you hint at the
          Revolution-will-flop-because-its-controller-i s-too-"out-there"
          argument, then you must, in fairness, address the obvious
          counter-arguments:

          Sorry if I didn't make myself clear initially, but I'm actually one of the optimistic fans for Nintendo. I grew up as a Nintendo "fanboi" myself, arguing the merits of the N64 over the PSX in forums and such. I don't think it is going to flop because of the controller, because of many of the things you've already pointed out, but I have to admit I'm a

    • That's easy. Because the X Box will continue to have the popular games like it always has, and this time they're not latecomers to the race. Games like Madden will continue to dominate in sales, and the gaming industry will remain much the same as it is now to the dismay of that small group of gamers always complaining about the current crop of titles being released. It still won't matter though because that small group of gamers are not the ones making the gaming industry as profitable as it is.

      • That's easy. Because the X Box will continue to have the popular games like it always has, and this time they're not latecomers to the race. Games like Madden will continue to dominate in sales, and the gaming industry will remain much the same as it is now to the dismay of that small group of gamers always complaining about the current crop of titles being released. It still won't matter though because that small group of gamers are not the ones making the gaming industry as profitable as it is.

        I complete

    • The more I read about the supposed specs of the Revolution the more it sounds like it will, outside of higher resolution, easily outpace the 360 in performance. The dual 970ish CPU that is in the Revolution will easily outperform the 360 CPU - which looks like it has realworld performance around a 2 to 2.5GHz dual 970 system. And the custom ATI graphics system in the Revolution sounds like it will be much more advanced than the essentially current gen pc GPU in the 360 - outside of resolution once again.

      Err

    • Wait a minute--I didn't know anyone knew any details about the GPU or the CPU (aside from the manufacturers). Where are you getting your information; I would like to edumacate myself.
  • I'm having a hard time finding the direct quote which "confirms" that the Revolution will be under $300. With all the misinformation spreading throughout the video game industry, I'd much rather have that direct quote than hearing about it secondhand via some news outlet. Is there any other source for this information?
    • If you read the GameDAILY article, it lists its source.

    • January 4, 2006 - Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has all but confirmed that the Nintendo Revolution will be the least costly of the three competing next-generation game systems by stating that the console will retail for less than the Xbox 360 core system which currently retails for $299 in the United States.

      By revealing this information in an interview with Yahoo! Japan, Iwata fulfilled the expectations of many industry analysts who believe that the Revolution's focus on its innnovative control s

      • "Nintendo President Satoru Iwata has ALL but confirmed"
        All is the operative word, meaning, Nintendo hasn't confirmed anything.
        Putting a quote in Courier New or Times New Roman does not make it an official and confirmed source.
        • "by stating that the console will retail for less than the Xbox 360 core system which currently retails for $299 in the United States."

          Before correcting someone, read the entire thing.

  • Analysis (Score:5, Funny)

    by snuf23 ( 182335 ) on Thursday January 19, 2006 @04:23PM (#14512651)
    Hi I'm an industry analyst. My prediction are:

    Xbox 360 will drop in price to $35.32 to combat Sony's release of the PS/3 which will incidentally be marketed in the $1.2 million price range. Sony's initial stock of 5 PS/3s for the holiday season 2009 will sell out. The resulting influx of $6 million will exceed all money ever made selling anything Xbox related for any Xbox system ever that was or is to be.
    In an effort to get more non-gamers playing Nintendo will release the Revolution in a buy one get one free special pack marketed witht eh slogan "one for you, one for Grandma". It will come with an updated Robby the robot. Corporations such as McDonalds will take advantage of the low cost robotics and replace their entire work force with Robbys. The Revolution controller will be shown to be a cheap ploy by Nintendo to transition to teledildonics.
    The CEO of Nintendo will be compelled to commit suicide after a horrifying cosplay scandal involving a certain stain on a sailor moon outfit. The successor will distance Nintendo from video gaming and return the business to it's hana futa card making roots - stating that they want Nintendo's finanacial profile to be more in line with Sony and Microsoft, since profitability is no longer a sign of success.
    The Internet, having proven to be a fad, will achieve sentience and then blow itself up by detonating large nuclear devices in every major backbone location across the world. This will have no real impact on Microsoft's Xbox Live, as we all know that nobody really plays on Live anyway. There will however be "the scream heard round the world" as millions of World of Warcraft players are instantly denied their chance to earn phat lewt.
    PC gaming will rise from it's current dead status to achieve undeath with titles like Sims 3: Get a Life! shambling about Wal Mart screaming "braaaaaaainnsssss".

    Please adjust your stock portfolios accordingly.

    • Re:Analysis (Score:2, Funny)

      by Glytch ( 4881 )
      Simply sublime.

      If there is any justice in this universe, you will be promptly be rewarded with +5,Insightful along with a free harem of the gender of your choice.
      • Nah, this is Slashdot - I'll be modded down into oblivion. Apparently people really enjoy the dozens of pointless "analysis" articles we've been seeing and I anticipate we will continue to see until well after the Revolution and PS3 hit the market.
        Honestly, I don't really understand why people care about projected number of sales on these systems. I have an Xbox, a PS2 and a GameCube. The GC gets more play than the others. How can that be? It's the poorest selling of the three, doesn't that mean it sucks?
      • careful, sex of your choice is probably a better reward.

        Sex is the physical trait, gender is the social role so by choosing a gender of male you could end up with a person who looks and acts like a girl, with a little suprise tucked into her panties.
    • These predictions seem as valid as any other set of predictions I've seen on slashdot about consoles, plus unlike most people who seem to think their opinions about what is going to happen matter, you made yours entertaining, at least, so bravo.
  • Dear Hype,

    Personally, I hype there to be at least HYPE to HYPE units sold through HYPE!!!

    Hype hype hype hype, hype hype hype hype. Furthermore, hype hype hype HYPE HYPE HYPE!!! Yeah! HYPE!

    PS3 is the bomb dank HYPE!!!
  • When mentionning Players, Andy is referring to Blu-Ray Players hungry for movie titles to play, not game players hungry for game titles.

    This quote, out of the context, is very very misleading.

    That 3-7 million figure is the number of blu-ray players/oem ordered by Sony.. thus his assumption that Sony plans to sell that many PS3's.

    This conclusion is following a discussion on EvilAvatar [evilavatar.com] yesterday.

    Andy Parsons, senior vice president of Pioneer Electronics told Digital Bits, "The PS3 is going to represent an alm

  • Nentendo will do well like aways but will not be a factor with the 360 and PS3 war. Honestly I want to see Sony take a hit, They are not much for change in gaming and dont seem to have an online plan. But MS may have made some mistakes on 360 that they will have to pay for.
    • i disagree with you here. quite the opposite has happened here. although im cancelling my subscription to live, i cant say that i didnt enjoy xbox live. but other than that, my ps2 has the most true exclusive titles that seem to interest me. live is excellent, but not enough to qualify your average player to buy the console. since most xbox owners havent even signed into xbox live, they are finding other personal reasons to own the console. [maybe they prefer the graphics, who knows?]

      i do love my xbox, it s

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