Analysts See 80GB PS3 Dropping To $499 For Holidays 103
Gamsasutra reports on analyst predictions of another PS3 price drop in time for the holidays. This time, the 80GB sku would take the place of the now fully-cleared-out 60GB unit. "Jesse Divnich from fantasy video game prediction market simExchange has said much the same, adding that 'after examining more closely the hardware sales of the PS3 over the last 6 months we have come to the conclusion that the PS3 cannot remain competitive in the current North American environment at its current retail offering at $499 and $599 ... To remain competitive against the other consoles, the Sony PS3 would have to reduce its 80GB SKU by $100 down to $499. Other options, besides a price drop, could be the bundling of more free software titles, which has always been a popular option during the Holiday season.'"
Like I care? (Score:2, Insightful)
When I finally get an HDTV, My $$$ are going to the evil Borg empire (rather than the Evil sony empire) and getting an XBox 360 for Halo and GTA IV.
So why should anyone care about the PS3? The zealots who got them got them already, and all the rest are just not gonna care, get a Wii (gameplay) or get an XBox (more games and similar "oohh, shiny" graphics)
Re:Like I care? (Score:5, Insightful)
For some, it's a case where we're assuming (maybe foolishly) that the PS3 will eventually have some interesting and unique games that are otherwise unavailable on any of the other platforms. Examples of this for the PS2 for me would be Ico, Shadow of the Colossus, Ratchet and Clank, etc.
It's akin to asking why anyone bothered buying an original XBox, when there were so many more titles for the PS2? If you were a Halo fan, the answer was obvious.
Re: Like I care? (Score:2, Interesting)
The difference is Th X-Box launched with Halo. What "Syst
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Multiplatform Titles (Score:2)
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Use the Wii to make gaming a family activity, and get the kid and your wife to game with you. All the fun of "in-person" multiplayer, without needing to invite people over.
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And even if the Wii gaming isn't your cup of tea... if your family likes it, the Wii may be the trojan horse that opens them up to the possibility of a 360 or PS3 for you... maybe even one for Christmas :)
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I bought the NES, SNES, GB, GBA, N64 and Gamecube, so I'm not a Nintendo hater. I've seen them focus more and more on party games, quirks, and non-gamers. The often resell their old games over and over again, and people seem happy to buy them over and over again. Most are excited about the virtual console, but I see an inferior replacement to
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I actually agree with most of what you said about Nintendo, and if it weren't for the golf and bowling games I probably wouldn't have bought a Wii myself. Yes, the controller is sort of a gimick. But it works well with two types of games I like, so... meh, it was worth it for me. Its not for everyone though.
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So basically you are advocating that Sony adopt the same marketing approach with the PS3 that was used for the Commodore 64 (successfully) and the Atari XEGS (not successfully). "Our gaming console has a keyboard, which makes it a computer and not a gaming console! The kids can do their homework on it! Mom can file h
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Re: System Seller or Decent game? (Score:2)
Is Warhawk worth buying if you have a PS3 (IE: A good game)? or is it Worth buying a PS3 and the game in 1 purchase? (IE: A system seller)
My impression is that it was the former, not the latter.
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Or in other words, I'll buy a Nintendo console secure in the knowledge that they'll release enough stuff themselves over it's lifetim
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The 360 finally has about 10 games I want to play, so i'll end up buying one t
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I actually own the games -- and have a number of friends who play them as well, despite not owning anything newer than a PS2 themselves, and they're excellent.
Sure there aren't many out right now, but they exist, and some of them are excellent. It hasn't even been a year since release yet, I seem to recall all the 360 people decrying the lack of games for the 360 in the first year too; "sure, PGR is good, but I'm sick of it" type stuff.
PS, if a game isn't w
Re:Like I care? (Score:4, Informative)
I'm not a Sony fanboi, I waited in line for my Wii and ignored the PS3 launch completely. I want my games to be fun, not just pretty. (Which probably explains the old Atari 2600 in my living room) But I see interesting things in the PS3's future that I don't think the 360 will be able to match.
Just my $.02
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Please, don't take this as a Bash, but I honestly would like to know what you feel the PS3 is capable of in the future that the 360 can't match.
Off hand I can only think of one instance (aside from Multiple DVD'
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You are assuming that the PS3 will be given enough time to become that popular. Third party vendors are already re-assessing their support for the PS3. Unless the PS3 starts to put consoles in people's homes then there is little chance that developers are going to spend the time and effort that optimizing for the PS3 will take. It would make far more sense for these developers to spend their time making the Wii version look good, since that's what their customers are most likely to actually own.
The PS3
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Sheer power (Score:2)
Now, whether the game developers are savvy enough to take advantage of the cell is a different question entirely.
Don't discount the whole multiple-DVDs vs. 1 BlueRay, either. Or the fact that the PS3 comes standard with a hard drive, allowing game manufacturers to cache textures to disk before they are needed ("streaming textures"), making gameplay smoother, with richer visuals.
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Re: Sheer power (Score:3, Interesting)
Well, 7 active (useable) and 1 redundant core in the Cell vs. the 3 (Active) cores in the 360. Point understood about More cores being better. One of the issues I see is that the PS3 has half the system RAM (256 megs) of the 360 (512 megs) so a game like Gears of War that uses all that RAM wouldn't be playable in its current form on the PS3.
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I got corrected on this a while back, so I'll pass it on: The 360 has 512 megs that are fully shared with the video, whereas the PS3 has 256M for each of system RAM and video. It doesn't seem to make a lot of difference in the end. They're both nice consoles, and I could afford both
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I just went through that this summer! I went through a spell of old Xbox games, Both Max Paynes are good (and cheap) as is Panzer Dragoon Orta (all BC and under $10). Then a buddy loaned me Oblivion... That pretty much turne
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Just some factual corrections. Your opinions don't really mean anything to me.
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I have both. My main reason for getting the PS3, in addition to the "interesting things in the future" that you mention, is Blu-Ray.
Turned out to be a good decision, since, when my 360 bricked with a "Red Ring of Death" yesterday morning, it didn't entirely ruin my Memorial Day.
They should have put it at $499 to begin with... (Score:2)
80GB SKU is a meaningless term (Score:2, Informative)
"Sony's 80GB PS3"
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"Sony's N82E16868110016 SKU"
Except SKU [wikipedia.org] is assigned at the merchant level, so there are approximately eleventy billion different SKUs for the 80GB PS3. The above is Newegg's SKU.
STOP FUCKING SAYING IT
Re:80GB SKU is a meaningless term (Score:4, Funny)
It would wear the finger down pretty quick.
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The gist: SKU may be businessese, but it has a real, specific meaning that's hard to express any other way.
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Like so many others, you were judging a game's graphics based on its BETA. Liek so many other console gamers, this doesn't make you stupid, it just means you aren't used to the idea of a beta. See, in a beta, it is 100% assured that what you see is not the final product. Not in sound, balance, or even *gasp* graphics.
Try doing a side-by-side comparison of Halo 2 with the single-player screenshots of Halo 3 in the latest issue of
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I'll take a good SNES game over yet another "beat up whores
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Have you met my friend the kettle?
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People wouldn't be paying the $50 a year for Xbox Live if they didn't like the service they were getting...personally I think it is very much worth the money. Besides, have you forgotten the early days of PC gaming? Dwango, MPlayer, etc.?
As far as the same "Halo Crap", it's a franchise...people wouldn't buy a Halo game and expect Ratchet and Clank...they would expect Halo. They want a conclusion to the story arc,
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Fixed
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The point was for Bungie to collect information about the multiplayer aspect of the game, anyway. So for the peopl
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Prediction (Score:2, Insightful)
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I could, with effort, afford a PS3... (Score:2)
I also find that with a new job and promotion that I'm not just gaming less than I used to, I'm gaming a HECK OF A LOT less than I used to, and its very hard to justify $500 for what might be a 6 hour a month hobby for me now. On the other hand, with disposabl
Not going to matter (Score:1)
There's also no reason to go an
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Agreed.
I disagree on the latter. There is a reason to get the 60 gig now... They are no longer producing them. If you are someone who puts a lot of value in the EE chi
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I thought it was pretty clear that there was a reason to pickup the 60GB while it was still available if you wanted to have an EE chip.
I'm not personally in that camp, my PS2 still works.
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But no one claims that BMW sells a crappier car than
gm just because they sell far fewer. The Sony PS3 is a great little toy. It's an interesting and useful device for some people.. people with lots of movies and media and blurays. It plays plenty of games, though not as many next gen titles as the 360, it still plays about 9000 games. It's not as good for gaming as the 360 (I prefer the online selection on XBOX live when I get bored). The PS3 is trying somet
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Welcome to Slashdot. Digg not treating you well? Poor guy, here, have a complimentary tinfoil hat.
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Compare the PS2 to the 360. Which is the better system, the one that is in the average house or the one that has the best performance?
Anyway, this login is only new because I got tired of slashdot a few years ago and forgot my password. Never really got into Digg.com. But I do find tinfoil to be very useful, and appreciate the nice hat.
Who can say? (Score:2)
I also think a publicity stunt with a decapitated goat is very unlikely.
I just don't think I trust attempts to predict Sony's future actions based on a rational evaluation of expected outcomes.
Not suprising (Score:3, Interesting)
That being said, I know that the numbers speak differently, but in all honesty in looking at the three 7th-gen consoles (which, btw, I own all three), I see every console as having a potential market of it's own...The Wii for it's "in-person multiplayer" appeal, the 360 for it's exclusives lineup and overall "feel", and the PS3 for the folks that want their gaming system to do something other than just play games.
Really, this is a very VERY exciting time to be a gamer. It's a shame everyone is still so ass-backwords and fighting with each other. This is the first generation that I could honestly see the big three living in harmony with each other if they would simply stay in their respective niche's...which, we all know, they won't.
Oh, and one more thing. Stop using 'SKU' in article summaries...not because it's used wrong, I'm just tired of hearing people argue about it's usage. That is all.
Remember folks. Play as many games on as many different platforms as you possibly can.
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I'd rather be a game-playing all-console-owning fanboy than a shill though, I'll tell you that.
500 Blu-Ray player (Score:2)
Most gamers don't see it that way, and that's fine. But for me, it is actually quite a value.
Re: 500 Blu-Ray player... or was that 350? (Score:2)
Make sure you buy the Sony Remote. You CAN control the movie playback with the 6 Axis, but the interface is Ass-tastic. Als
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A) its wireless
B) the left and right buttons move the movie back and forward
C) the big X you use in games to mean 'okay' does the same in menus
D) the big Dpad and analog stick thingies you use to move around in games does the same in BD menus
E) the square button brings up the menu while playing the movie
E) the triangle button brings up all those on-screen options to do other fancy setup stuff I've almost never done with a remote anyway
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F) the triangle button brings up all those on-screen options to do other fancy setup stuff I've almost never done with a remote anyway.
Perhaps I should have clarified. The triangle is largely the issue. Rather than organize functions in a logical maner, under the viewable area of the movie (like the BluRay menus do) they throw it up on the screen and overlay over 25% of your viewable area.
If you only do the basic functions of pause, p
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Remote Play... (Score:2)
http://www.psp-hacks.com/2007/09/02/lair-psp-remo t e-play/ [psp-hacks.com]
Personally I don't care too much for the PS3 as a whole, price and lack of games being the two biggest
Still over $850 in Britain (Score:5, Informative)
Stores are not being allowed to officially offer discounts, but judging by the 'unofficial' hand written cardboard signs outside every games shop, stores can't shift the boxes without offering a huge bundle of freebies. You'd be hard pushed to buy a PS3 without art least 2 free A-list games, 2 free blu-ray films and a free sixaxis controller in my local mall.
Add in the way Sony UK are stubbornly pretending that 80Gb machines don't exist (all we get is 60Gb ones without the Emotion engine) and it seems they are hell-bent on crashing and burning over here.
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The average income in the UK is approximately the same as in the US, if the two country's currency's had equal value. For someone living in the UK, the PS3 costs the same
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US median household income $46,000. UK median household income £24,700 GBP, which is $49,631.07 at today's rate.
(Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_
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Original and complete report (Score:1)
Just to add, our analysis examines the sales of both the Xbox 360 and PS3 for the next few months as forecasted on the simExchange prediction market [thesimexchange.com]. The forecasts are those of thousands of gamers, developers, and investors trading on a virtual stock market and are not the forecasts of an individual analyst. Our findings show a widening
Prices (Score:1)
80gb SATA laptop hard drive: $90 [newegg.com]
80gb PS3: $599 [newegg.com]
So you have a choice between Motorstorm, or your entire library of PS/PS2 games (plus $10). They should have just stuck with the 60gb. Maybe they needed an excuse to raise the price, while lowering costs.
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Oh really? (Score:3, Interesting)
I'm not asking any and all analysts to be clairvoyant, but I don't recall any of them being at all accurate. The most dire prognostication was that Sony wouldn't absolutely dominate, but only lead.
As far as I can tell, 90% of analysts are going to make predictions anyone who has a passing interest in the subject could make with about as much accuracy. Basically, they pick whatever follows the old trends irregardless of the fact that trends change.
Sony might drop the price, that's always been a possibility. However, this is Sony we're talking about. I personally find it just as likely that they'll stick to their guns and keep the price as is; it wouldn't even be stupid. If they lower the price, they piss off a lot of hardcore people and potentially reduce their revenue. If they don't, they piss off a lot of hardcore people and potentially reduce their revenue.
I won't be surprised either way, but I would believe random anonymous coward Sony fanboy trolls before I'd listen to analysts.
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Please explain... (Score:1)
However, the fact that there's an article every day about this makes it seem like people actually
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In theory, the PS3 is a neat toy that can run stuff like Folding@Home superfast on its exotic CPU.
In reality, it needs to match or beat XBox 360 in price, and it would have too if Sony didn't get all Sony about Bluray.
I think the offensive thing is just ho