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Toshiba Denies 360 With Built-in HD DVD 50

A few days ago we discussed the possibility of Toshiba working on an Xbox 360 with a built-in HD DVD component and HD tuners. Today, GamesIndustry.biz has word from Toshiba denying that they're working on that unit. "'It's got nothing to do with us,' said a spokesperson to gadget site Stuff. 'But we know Microsoft doesn't want to include the HD DVD so as not to limit the user's experience.' Microsoft currently sells the HD DVD player as a separate peripheral for the Xbox 360, and offers various deals for users who want to upgrade their console to a hi-definition movie player."
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Toshiba Denies 360 With Built-in HD DVD

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  • Good (Score:5, Insightful)

    by ADRA ( 37398 ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @06:07PM (#21105987)
    I hope this brain child never hits the light of day, at least not for a long time.

    Why "Built-in HD-DVD" is dumb
    Having built in HD-DVD drive will allow MS to push HD-DVD storage enabled games that utilize the extra capacity. This will piss off all the existing users from playing those games and force them to upgrade their systems. The only saving grace on MS side would be to make it ABSOLUTELY clear that the upgraded HD drive will NEVER be used for game content.

    Why "HD tuner" aka QAM is dumb
    The HiDef TV market is currently locked into Encrypted QAM in North America and the only way to bypass the "rent/buy box from provider" is to use a cablecard decoder which is very broken and restricted to 'certified' hardware. There may be some channels broadcasted over the air unencrypted but you can be damn sure that all cable companies will switch to encrypted sooner or later, and at their whim. I'll put hd-cable to the same place in my heart as Hidef cable. In the cold. Call me back when there are open(non-private-key-encumbered) pervasive standards to

  • Out Q1 2008 (Score:2, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @06:08PM (#21105995)
    Actually the rumor I heard is that the new "XBox HD" is due out during the first quarter of 2008.

    The only reason they are denying the rumors right now, is to help unload existing inventory during the Holiday Season.

    If I was looking at an XBox 360 though, I'd wait till after the Holiday Season for the new unit to be released.
  • by davester666 ( 731373 ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @07:00PM (#21106549) Journal
    It's very limiting to be able to purchase one device with all the features you want. You don't get the "you also need this add-on" experience... You don't get to experience as much time with the salesman in the store [when they bother spending time with customers]. You miss the "I forgot to buy that part, so I have to go back to the store" experience.

    The article doesn't say anything about them being positive experiences...

    And even if MS didn't have to digitally sign games for them to work with the XBOX 360, I'm sure they would at least have a software block on running games from an HD DVD.
  • Re:Good (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @08:17PM (#21107427)
    What the fuck does DX10 have to do with any of this?
  • by SailorSpork ( 1080153 ) on Wednesday October 24, 2007 @08:29PM (#21107539) Homepage
    It appears to the untrained, novice outside observer that M$ is making the same mistakes with the 360 that they did with Vista (at least, one of the mistakes they made with Vista)... there are so many versions that the average consumer doesn't know what's what. 8 versions of Vista, and now 360 Core, 360 Pro, 360 Elite, 360 Arcade, optional add-on HD-DVD, and coming soon: HD Tuner version!

    I certainly hope for M$'s sake that they don't release yet another type of 360. A pile of market confusion is just what Sony needs to... um... wedge in? Have to give Sony credit for finally getting some decent games out, even if the library lack's it's "Halo 3"-esque brand of killer app...

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