Where are Wii? 440
WirePosted writes "Santa is in trouble, it looks like supplying the Christmas need for a Nintendo Wii game console is in jeopardy as stocks wither under constant and heavy demand. Conspiracy believers suggest this is an orchestrated move on behalf of Nintendo." Since this happens to be what I want for Christmas, I hope they work it out, or my loving wife has already found one.
They're in Taiwan (Score:4, Informative)
Plenty of Wiis here (Score:5, Informative)
(Seriously, I have no idea what Nintendo is up to, but claiming there's a severe shortage of PAL Wiis in the UK with lots of PAL Wiis available in other countries - only the plug on the AC adapter differs - doesn't sound right. Add a firmware flash and then the same hardware would become NTSC
Re:They're in Taiwan (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:5, Informative)
Yeah, but most of them won't be out any significant amounts of money though, because they will simply return them the day after Christmas. Last year I went to Best Buy the day after Christmas because my mom bought me the wrong Simpsons season on DVD, so I had to wait in the return line. I noticed that almost everyone in front of me was returning ps3s. I bet that most of them were people who bought the ps3 to try to sell for a few grand on ebay, and when they didn't sell they went straight to best buy to recoup their $600. So most of the resellers probably consider it a no-risk investment on their part.
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:1, Informative)
Seems in stock here in Sweden (Score:3, Informative)
The retail price hasn't shot up for the holidays either. http://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?pu=48126 [prisjakt.nu]
Re:Seems in stock here in Sweden (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Seems in stock here in Sweden (Score:3, Informative)
On one memorable occasion, they got a batch of 50 on a Friday morning and still had 2 left on Saturday.
This isn't a shop in the middle of London - it's out on the east of town in the arse end of nowhere.
They're in Turkey too. (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:5, Informative)
Be careful with the latter option. Sony has made quite a few changes to PS3 backward compatibility with PS2, ranging from supporting it in hardware on some models, to supporting it by software emulation in others, to dropping it completely in still others.
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:2, Informative)
xbox360 bundle with forza 2 and marvel ultimate alliance: $350
3 additional wireless controllers: $50 x 3 = $150
wireless network adaptor: $100
xbox LIVE subscription: $50/y
And you're at $570 without buying any meaningful games, at regular retail price. Toss in sales tax and a handful of games, you've already broken $700. So it's not like 360s or ps3s are cheap to start with, at least not the way most people set them up.
Re:Buzzlight year (Score:3, Informative)
You can't just magically increase production. Nintendo increased their production to what they thought was 'safe' for their business. If they wanted to I'm sure they could have built 5 new plants, cranked out 5 million a month and had everyone a Wii within a year.
Then they woudl have had 5 idle manufacturing plans for the next X years until the Wii2 came out.
Re:Blame the weak dollar (Score:2, Informative)
I got one, here's how: (Score:3, Informative)
http://binaryspiral.com/2007/12/01/how-to-get-a-wii-before-christmas [binaryspiral.com]
It's already worked for me and three other co-workers... YMMV.
Business school (Score:5, Informative)
I took a business class in which Nintendo was used as real world example for how they controlled prices for a release of Zelda. If I remember correctly it went something like this:
Nintendo tells retailers "we're going to produce X amount by Christmas, give us your orders." Wal-Mart tells them, "we're big and will sell a lot of games, give us a huge number of them at a ridiculously low price. Otherwise, we won't carry it and you won't sell enough of them to make any money."
Nintendo hates this, of course. So, they cut back sharply on production of the game. Closer to Christmas they tell the retailers, "oops, we only have Y amount. It's not enough for what we already know everybody wants. Give us your desired quantities with your _best_ price in Z days."
Walmart just lost their leverage. Nintendo sells fewer cartridges but at a significantly better price than Walmart was offering. Not as good as they originally wanted but better than Walmart's offer.
Something similar is probably happening here. The Wii could easily move in huge volume but the retailers would want a lower price. As long as:
you'll have a hard time finding a Wii.
Re:Are the underwear gnomes in charge? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:5, Informative)
The hell with this cheap consumer idiocracy!
Greenpeace complains about Nintendo using too tough plastics on the WII. Maybe that happens because they are intended to last.
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:1, Informative)
To add insult to shortage, you can get a wii if you are prepared to buy a load of lame games in a bundle.
Amazon in Germany has a stock of wii's but even though they were shipping to the UK a couple of weeks ago, have been stopped by Nintendo Germany shipping them to the UK, these are the same machines with a different power plug, I can only guess at the reason for this illegal action.
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:4, Informative)
20GB, 60GB - PS2 hardware
80GB - PS2 software emulated
40GB - No support for PS2 games
Not new, not rare. (Score:3, Informative)
It's neither new nor rare. It happens almost every Christmas to one "big toy," it's just that it's rarely something the Slashdot crowd cares about. All the way back to Tickle Me Elmo over a decade ago - and the year after that, it was the Barbie Fashion Designer CD-ROM, and then something new nearly every year since. Actually, Tickle Me Elmo was only the start of the most recent wave - ask anyone who had a kid in the early 80's how much they paid for a Cabbage Patch Kid doll, and that was pre-eBay.
Outside of Christmas, there have been plenty of "collectible" toys that have been scalped - look at Beanie Babies and Pokemon cards. I'm a Barbie collector, and in the late 90's the hobby became trendy for a bit. Employees of Target, Wal-Mart, etc would buy up dolls as soon as the boxes were open and put them on eBay before actual shoppers even got a chance at them. My dad has actually done the same for Hot Wheels.
Trust me, for most of the parents looking for a Wii, this isn't a new experience. It's just that this time, maybe it's something they'd like to play with, too.
Oh really (Score:2, Informative)
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:3, Informative)
It is hard to argue with these criticisms of my post. It is one thing to be clever, and another to be clever at someone else's expense. I disagreed with the original poster's premise, but I should have been less personal in my criticism.
Sometimes a joke is so easy to make that it is hard to resist, but I still appreciate you calling me out on it.
My point is that online play against random strangers (or even against people that you know) is not the same thing as filling your living room up with people and playing together. The fact that you can get a Wii and enough controllers for a serious party for the same price as an XBox 360 with a single controller is a huge advantage for Nintendo. The original poster might believe that online play is a replacement for more traditional, put everyone in the same room and play matchups, but I don't think it is. He presented his opinion that an XBox 360 with a single controller and XBox Live is a better deal than a Nintendo Wii, three controllers, and a pile of other stuff. Quite frankly, I think he's crazy. What's more, the market appears to agree with me.
Mocking him went too far, and I sincerely apologize.
Re:Couple Thoughts (Score:2, Informative)
All that has to be returned to the publishers for a credit is the cover.
Doubtful (Score:3, Informative)
In other words: Just because the media write about it doesn't mean it's true.
Or maybe it's because I'm in Europe and for some reason logistics and the supply chain work better here. I doubt that, though, given how much we've all become alike in those regards. Same companies running the same business using the same software to decide how much to ship where.