PC Gaming Suggestions for Console-like Fun? 513
jayminer writes "We are a relatively newly married young couple who enjoy spending our spare time at home. We don't own a console but have a gaming laptop with DVI output to play games on our TV. My wife is also a CS major so she's computer literate enough. She does not like strategy games, MMORG or any other role-playing game. Apart from "Find the Sausage" jokes, we need quality gaming advice, preferably games which we can play with a single laptop connected to a single large screen, with two gamepads, a console-like experience. What are your suggestions?"
Obvious answer... (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:Obvious answer... (Score:5, Insightful)
Ive sat here and tossed around all the game I can remember playing over the years, and the ones worth the time all equate one pc with one player.
Consoles are the king of multi user gaming hands down. Like suggested above, nab an old console. PS 1 or Nintendo 64 or such should be had for under 75 USD with several games.
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Super Mario Bros 3, Pong, Frogger, PacMan. Plus they make excellent drinking games (One shot for every fruit you didn't get on a PacMan level.) The best thing is an xBox can store ALL of these games and more.
Or you could even get some classic looking controllers and play these on the laptop.
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at that point it'd be easier just picking up some old hardware too. Obviously by ripping your NES carts you'd miss out on the enthralling experience of blowing on the connector to get the damn thing to boot.
Re:Remember my.mp3.com? (Score:5, Informative)
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Re:Obvious answer... (Score:5, Funny)
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Most of us though have our own consciences and prefer to use them. The simple act of copying a file in the privacy of my own home harms no one. Therefore, it cannot possibly be wrong.
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But that's not really the point. The point is that copying a file is a private transaction between two consenting adults. The people who are behaving unethically are those who are trying to control voluntary consenting behavior. They're not losing any revenue because they're not ethically entitled to
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The "lost revenue" argument is a joke. It may (and probably does) apply to people who produce illegal copies for distribution, but has zero weight with regards to individuals making copies for themselves.
Re:Obvious answer... (Score:5, Informative)
For arcade games, you can use MAME
http://mamedev.org/ [mamedev.org]
Once you've got MAME, you need a set of current ROM files for it. You can find ROMs on BitTorrent or on any P2P application.
As MAME evolves, the ROM sets get replaced with new and better extractions, so you'll want a piece of software to manage them.
ClrMAMEPro is a tool that will use the data files from the latest version of MAME, and scan a big huge mess of old ROM files, extracting whatever is useful from them into a nice, neat set that works with the current version
http://www.clrmame.com/ [clrmame.com]
To get yourself set up, download any new or old MAME ROMs you can find, then use ClrMAMEPro to make a proper and current set out of them and burn it to backup.
There are also emulators floating around out there for Playstation, Nintendo 64, NES and Super NES. I've gotten good performance out of Project 64, an emulator for Nintendo 64. MarioCart plays quite well.
When you're choosing GamePads, you should look for something wireless that has as many buttons as you can possibly find. You want to be able to map the controller you choose to every possible controller from history, so you're going to need something that is flexible.
re: MythTV and MAME (Score:4, Insightful)
The nice thing about this is, it gives you a good excuse to dedicate an entire PC to your TV set, since it works as a very capable DVR, gives you a set-top web browser, and other goodies.
The downside? At least from all the knoppmyth distros I've used, I've always had some hassle getting MAME working well with it. (EG. You can purchase wireless gamepad type controllers from Logitech that use USB dongles and are detected just fine in Linux. But you'll have to do some creative stuff with the xmame config file so you have all their buttons assigned in a sensible manner. If you don't assign one to simulate dropping coins in, for example, you'll never be able to get a new game to start from your controller.)
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When I think of the number of times my weekly allowance was ALMOST enough money to beat Double Dragon... now it's "Hahahah, fuck you Willy. Click, click, click, click..."
Petty I know. But very satisfying.
Atari 2600 (Score:4, Funny)
Re:Obvious answer... (Score:5, Insightful)
Only if you're talking "Current gen". A Used Gamecube is $30 at Gamestop, and a Used X-box is $60. There are a Ton of good Co-op games for cheap (NHL HITZ is an all time favorite). Hell instead of buying the extra controller, buy 2 Gamecubes and an extra memory card in case you both want to game solo at some point.
Buy a console (Score:3, Insightful)
The 360 and the Wii cost less than the original NES did if you count in inflation. Do some research in game libraries and pick one. Well worth the investment.
In terms of games, Guitar Hero is addicting.
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Re:Buy a console (Score:5, Insightful)
Reviews of modern games are often clouded by hype and irrelevant trends. Many nerds will retrospectively look at their video game library and wax poetic about the ones that are still fun (and they'll do it on their blog thanks to ego^w web 2.0). You can get these games used for $3-$10. A seven-year-old game can still be fun.
And if you haven't played it, it's new to you.
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DON'T get the PC version of Guitar Hero, apparently it has slow-downs in game even on a high specced PC. If you have a HDTV I'd definitely recommend the PS3
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How could anti-aliasing improve those types of games?
Perhaps you meant to say "If you want mindless racing around a track or run around killing people, then get the PS3."
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I would probably agree that just buying a console would be a better option for them, but not because of anything to do with the resolution of the screen.
If they don't want to spend a lot of new money on a console, a PS2 might be a great choice fo
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Before buying a console just for one overpriced game bundle, try downloading Frets on Fire, Coffee's Ultimate Mod, and all of the ripped Guitar Hero songs. Load it up onto your PC and hook up some old, ch
Mario Party.......seriously. (Score:2)
Stepmania (Score:5, Interesting)
Or get a Wii. Tons of simple flash games through the browser. Fun and simple.
Emulators (Score:5, Insightful)
Get some old-school console emulators and play some of the great classics.
I'm sure that what constitutes a "classic" will vary here on /., but I prefer some of the older Super NES games... Tetris Attack is awesome.
You didn't hear that from me, though...
Re:Emulators (Score:4, Insightful)
Just get SNES9X and download some games. I used to play that with my GF:
- Mario Kart (SNES version is one of the best ones)
- Lemmings (2 player snes version quite good)
- TMNT (2 player cooperative)
- Top Gear (one of the few two player coop. racing games where even if one is good enough, both of you will be able to go through the game [and you can cooperate by trying to block the first place cars to make one of you win
- Super Contra (a bit more "man" oriented, but fun coop too).
- Rock and Roll racing (another nice racing game).
- Battletoads in Battlemaniacs (two player kind of coop... a bit difficult [but quite fun if you enable infinite lives cheat])
- Bomberman (My girlfriend loves these ones. It is OK multiplayer)
- Joe and Mac (really funny caveman characters, multiplayer coop)
- Super Mario All Stars (I can never be left out! including Super Mario Bros 3, i have played it with my girlfriend from the beginning to the end)
- Ninja Gaiden Trilogy (not really multiplayer, maybe not really very good, but it is my favourite game of all time [Ninja Gaiden II for the NES] so I had to include it here =oP)
Those are all I can think of now. The reason I choose SNES is because such games are not as complex as todays' games; therefore you can just sit start it and begin playing without two hours of tutorial (I am looking at you Wii Zelda ).
Also, I think the SNES had the best kind of cooperative multiplayer games... these days it is very difficult to find such games in any console. The only cooperative games are FPS like "halo" but they are a turn off for most girls or other "casual" players.
And, the reason I don't choose Wii (even though I have one, which is in its box since I moved home 2 months ago) is because I hate mini-games, and all the multiplayer games from Nintendo are mini games (wiiware, mario party, rayman raymin rabbits, monkeyball banana... etc).
Oh! and the last one I would suggest is Worms. That is a really good game in which I have spent hours with my girlfriend and other friends (even a friend who never had used a computer had no problem playing the N64 emulated game =oO)
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BTW, if you're going to emulate don't just stick to the same old consoles. There were a some great games for the Mattel Intellevision, Atari 800, NEC Turbografx, Sega Saturn, etc etc.
Re:Legal ROMs? (Score:4, Insightful)
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Definition of copyright abandonment (Score:3, Informative)
However, the case of CherryRoms shows that most SNES roms are fine to download. To stay legal, just find a ROM site that complies with takedown notices.
So in other words, you say CherryRoms is in the same situation as YouTube.
Moving on, it's unfortunate that you added to the confusion over terms by inventing the action of "abandoning copyright". I'm pretty sure this is not an actual legal term
Wikipedia's article about abandonment [wikipedia.org] states the following: "In the domain of copyright, abandonment is recognized as the explicit release of material by a copyright holder into the public domain." Nintendo has not done this with its own titles, nor has Nintendo done this with the code libraries that were "licensed by Nintendo" for linking into each game.
However this reply fails to account for how business is actually done: video game companies often farm out development or other aspects of game making to third parties. Have you researched whether all these copyrights were transferred (and transferred correctly) to Nintendo?
The copyright notice displayed when the program starts should disclose whether
Re:Definition of copyright abandonment (Score:4, Insightful)
We can all sit around and spout theories all day, but since you proposed this line of thought why don't you provide some actual leg work?
"Hey everybody, look at me!" (Score:5, Funny)
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Emulators (Score:2)
Although it's usually played with a mouse, the old Worms series is great fun as well.
Speaking as a married husband with a kid... (Score:5, Insightful)
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Speaking as a geek married with four kids, I say any time spent enjoying each other's company is good. You also make the assumption that they have the desire and means to get out and explore the world... I know we didn't early in our marriage.
Not saying that exploring the world is bad, but I think if they really enjoy gaming together, it's better than a lot of other alternatives. :)
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I never really thought about access for public footpaths, until I tried taking a pushchair over a stile and onto wet mud and loose gravel. The next plan - carry the baby - failed miserably within weeks, since my wife made the somewhat inconvenient mistake of feeding the baby. Neither myself nor the missus are what you might call slight, so our baby grew quite heavy before she could reliably walk.
Furthermore, trying to walk from A to B with a toddler provides an experience similar
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You are right that while the child is awake you can go have a blast, but there is a huge amount of my life that has become sedentary while waiting for the boy to become more self sufficient.
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If you didn't mean to be presumptuous, but knew it was sufficiently presumptuous to include the disclaimer, then why did you bother posting? So that we all know that you go outdoors? Next thing you know we'll be hearing about how you don't own a television [theonion.com] either.
Wii. (Score:2, Insightful)
Much simpler- fewer wires.
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you're doing it wrong (Score:5, Funny)
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Lego Star Wars 1&2 (Score:2, Informative)
Gametap (Score:3, Informative)
continuum/ subspace (Score:4, Informative)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubSpace_(computer_game) [wikipedia.org]
its like the original asteroids, without the asteroids, and instead a maze of a bunch of other ships (random people from around the world)
i think a lot of slashdotters messed with it 10 years ago, and forgot about it
however, i recently rediscovered it (its free now) and was surprised to find a lot of zones still heavily populated. each zone has a different variation on the basic ship types and their abilities. you can waste 5 minutes or half an hour on it, to great effect
nothing like meeting a guy in a tank from finland, dodging his mine, blowing him away, while a guy from china materializes out of cloak and shoots you in the back. its cheap and easy mmorpg fun without the massive time commitment something like WoW demands
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a head designer was the guy who coined the term mmorpg. it is in fact the first (graphical, sorry mudders) example of an mmorpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubSpace_(computer_game) [wikipedia.org]
its like the original asteroids, without the asteroids, and instead a maze of a bunch of other ships (random people from around the world)
i think a lot of slashdotters messed with it 10 years ago, and forgot about it
however, i recently rediscovered it (its free now) and was surprised to find a lot of zones still heavily populated. each zone has a different variation on the basic ship types and their abilities. you can waste 5 minutes or half an hour on it, to great effect
nothing like meeting a guy in a tank from finland, dodging his mine, blowing him away, while a guy from china materializes out of cloak and shoots you in the back. its cheap and easy mmorpg fun without the massive time commitment something like WoW demands
Having played SS/Continuum for about 3 or 4 years, I can't in good faith call it a mmorpg. MMO, yes. RPG no. Even some of the more "creative" arenas were strategy based games.
It is however, highly entertaining. WZCTF, ftw.
Go green, neg.
Buy a Console (Score:4, Insightful)
For Co-op play, console is King. There are a myriad of two player titles out there to cater for all tastes, and co-op is something that even gets included in some one [youtube.com] player [youtube.com] titles, owing to its popularity.
PCs are not designed for what you're looking for. Consoles are, and they are cheaper, faster, easier and offer a better selection of titles. Just buy the damn Wii.
Smash Bros (Score:2)
Aside from that I recommend getting n64 roms and playing smash bros till you pass out.
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Ok this is what you do. (Score:3, Funny)
Get 2 USB Keypads, and a Copy of VMWare. Install 2 OS the VMWare and copy of each game on it. setup the virtual network correctly and Link one USB Keypad to each VM. Now Resize the VM Windows so you have Split Screen. And there 2 of you can play games at once (even 2 different ones if you feel like it) on your laptop all for the price of getting a console.
Never mind games (Score:5, Funny)
Sexual deviance, man! That's what you need to try; your "find the sausage" game sounds like a good start. You're married, it's ok to do that now!
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Lego Star Wars (Score:3, Informative)
I think guitar hero has a PC port, if you're into rhythm games. (ba-dum-ching!)
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Serious Sam (Score:2)
"Find the Sausage"? (Score:2)
Buy a console (Score:2)
Really. Just buy one instead of trying to shoehorn a laptop into the role. As a new couple with (presumably) no kids yet, you can spare the change. In fact, if you're really price-conscious, go buy a 1st-gen Xbox for $25 or so and pick up some games at mom-and-pop used game stores for $5-$10 apiece. There are plenty of split-screen shooters and racers for the original Xbox that you two can spend countless hours on.
Console-like fun ey? (Score:3, Funny)
Nintendo-Hard, look it up.
(I kid, I kid).
Why not buy a console? (Score:2)
Genres (Score:2)
Call the Freelance Police (Score:2)
One game my wife and I play religiously is the new Sam and Max adventure series from Telltale Games. It's an epi
YDKJ (Score:2, Interesting)
Games you can play together (Score:3, Informative)
Since the post talks about what games the misses dislikes, I'll do my best with that even though no insight about what she does like was provided. Worms Armageddon is a seriously fun game anyone can play. It's an old game, and I want to say there is some hacked version that can run at higher resolutions than it was originally capable of handling, so I would suggest buying the game and looking into that. Also, I would recommend looking into emulators for NES, SNES, and so on. There is a ton of stuff out there for that which could provide a wide variety of games that are tons of fun to play (even if the graphics are far from top-notch).
Even though you can't go spit-screen on this one, if either or both of you likes racing games, GTR2 is a seriously good racing simulator, but keep in mind that the average person might find its realistic physics to be frustrating. The Logitech Momo force-feedback steering wheel works exceptionally well for this and other racing games.
If the misses also likes diablo-style games, Titan quest is a game my wife enjoyed. Again, you can't go split-screen here, but it could provide some good entertainment for both of you. Of course, if you have another PC in the house, you could play together over a LAN. ^_^
Use an emulator (Score:2)
Cortex Command (Score:3, Interesting)
It's not actually finished but its active mod community makes it not matter - if one of you skims the forums now and then, you'll find all kinds of giggle-inducingly overpowered toys to play with. It's ultraviolent but it's on the border between 'obscene' and 'slapstick'...
Cooperate (Score:2)
Classic point'n'click adventures like Monkey Island, Sam and Max Hit The Road and Day of the Tentacle, for example. We also played a lot of text adventures (Google "Interactive Fiction" and "Curses" for a fantastic one).
More recently we played the new Telltale Games episodes of Sam & Max on the PC, rigged up to a TV almost as you described. I got some joypad-to-mouse software, and we sat
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If "Find the Sausage" doesn't do it for you... (Score:3, Funny)
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However, play it with a five year old, my god, you'll go insane. It's like playing Contra all over again.
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I play Super Mario 3 with my girlfriend since she grew up in Japan playing it with her brother and so it has fond memories of home for her. Often I'll miss a feather or be facing the wrong way to catch the mushroom and she'll shout, "NO!!! Are you stupid?!" hehe. She's super competitive and knows where all the secrets and f
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Islands [wikipedia.org]
Admittedly I was probably about 10 when I played this, but I'm sure I'd still enjoy it
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The last thing you want in this scenario is to actually care about the game... so no RPGs or MMORG or even Team games... just good old fashion PVP action.
Re:a relatively newly married young couple? (Score:5, Funny)
This is Slashdot, so I'm going to guess "all of it".
What did I win?
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This is why home ports of arcade games usually have extra elements bolted on. For example, something like Soul Calibur in the arcade has one game mode -- play until you die, see your score.
After all, its job is to take some money from you, give you a quick fix, then get rid of you. You might play a few more times. Most arcade games don't try