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• Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

The AC is right, of course -- Orange Box is worth it, or if you don't want to spend that much, Portal is absolutely worth it. But if, for some reason, you don't realize that yet, it'll probably work by downloading the Left 4 Dead demo, say.

• Re: (Score:3, Informative)

From what I've read the Left 4 Dead demo is no longer up. They pulled it so the servers could be used just for people who bought the game. Is that incorrect? I have Orange Box for my 360 but I don't have a legit copy for PC. Not really wanting to buy it a second time so I can play this mod, but from seeing the trailer, this mod looks pretty damn awesome so I'll end up buying something so I can play it.
• Re: (Score:1)

After the full version was released, when I try to play the demo, I get a message that says "A locked copy of L4D demo has already been installed on your computer. Purchase it now and start playing immediately!"
I bought the game, but I'm kind of disappointed in valve for doing that. They should just let people run their own demo servers. You'd think they'd want to keep the demo around to keep bringing in new players.
• Re: (Score:2)

The demo still works fine on the 360.

• Fix for "locked" L4D Demo (Score:2)

I'm still not sure whether Valve simply goofed and locked out everyone by accident, or they purposely deactivated the demo on purpose.

• Re: (Score:1)

Sorry, it doesn't work. You can download the mod and install it alright, but as soon as you try to run it you'll get a little message box telling you that you're not licensed to run source games.

Why do you think Valve is so supportive of the mod community? To play source mods, you NEED to give them money.

• Well, Duh! (Score:2)

Every game that allows modded content requires that you purchase the "core" game first. There's nothing new here.
• Re: (Score:2)

The Left 4 Dead demo no longer exists. If you have it on your Steam account, Steam will insist you don't own it and will try to get you to purchase it (which is impossible since it's a demo).

Also Source mods have NEVER been playable using a demo of a Source engine game. You need a full game, which will unlock the Source SDK Base (and Source SDK Base - Orange Box) which needs to be installed to play Source mods.

• One word!:R6034 (Score:2)

And make certain it doesn't generate any R6034 [overclock.net] errors.

• Awesome! (Score:5, Funny)

on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @04:24AM (#25956811)
So, now they're going to get started on Opposing Force, right? ; )
• Blue Shift (Score:1)

I'd rather they get cracking on Blue Shift. But I wouldn't say no to OpFor either!
• Re: (Score:2)

Fnyuh to both! Deathmatch Classic is where its at!
• Fingers crossed (Score:2)

As much as I hope this mod pulls off the feel of the original Half Life, I think an even bigger hope will be for the mod to be actually finished.

Either way, I hope these guys get the recognition and financial success they deserve.

• Re: (Score:2)

I agree. While I give them my emotional support ("Go, go, go!"), I can't be too excited until the mod is finished and released. Showing a trailer is nice and all, but if I can't play it, then the trailer is just a tease.

• Re: (Score:2)

Either way, I hope these guys get the recognition and financial success they deserve.

I agree. This has to be some kind of record in terms of the breadth of effort put into a mod. They apparently re-designed all the levels of a full game, re-created the models in higher resolution, added additional models, made new cut scenes (and I would think the HL style of cut scene where the player retains control are harder to do well), and did original voice acting. I've been reading their dev blog and it sounds like they've done some relatively low-level tweaking of the base game mechanics as well

• Impressive (Score:1)

Wow that's very impressive. I wouldn't be surprised, if this does well, that the modders might see a future in the game industry.
• Re: (Score:1)

No kidding. Judging by the quality of the media released so far, these guys really have what it takes. I am also very impressed with the opening score on their website. If only all games had music this good!
• Pay for it? (Score:1)

If the game is as good as the trailer led me to believe, I sure wouldn't mind paying for it. The Minerva mod for HL2 was also very high quality, for those that haven't seen it yet.
• Legalities (Score:5, Interesting)

on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @05:00AM (#25956961)

Are they legally allowed to do this if Half-Life is still for sale and as Half-Life: Source exists?

When we built a port of the original Teamfortress Valve came to us and made it quite clear we can't use the same set of weapons, names for classes and so forth because that would infringe on their IP even though all our assets and code were built by us from scratch. This was admittedly for a different, competing engine to Valve so I suppose it's slightly different and looking back I can imagine thus Valve probably weren't completely honest about what we could legally do.

I'm suprised Valve are willing to allow this if it will risk the admittedly small sales of Half-Life they may still get or do they feel this will instead increase sales of newer source engine games?

Of course the other question is how is this any different from Half-Life source?

Still I don't want to detract too much from the achievement this is. Releasing a mod of this scale can truly be a time consuming task that requires a lot of effort and discipline and I have to congratulate them on reaching this point. I truly hope Valve don't waste their time with a last minute cease and desist!

• Re: (Score:3, Informative)

you pretty much answered your own question... first off you were making a port for a competing engine, not using Source. Second, they were developing TF2 so why would they want someone else making a newer version of it on a different engine while they can make money off of theirs? I bet they haven't made a big deal about it because they had no plans to make a Half Life remake and the modders are using Source.
• Re: (Score:2, Informative)

sorry, let me rephrase slightly... Yes there is already "Half Life: Source" but it looks like the old version with updated textures and physics. I don't think they had plans to do a complete remake like TF.
• Re:Legalities (Score:4, Insightful)

<bakadamage-slashdot@yahoo.com> on Tuesday December 02, 2008 @06:02AM (#25957231) Journal

• Re: (Score:1)

It was \$0.99, and Black Mesa won't be released until 2009. I think you might be okay. Plus, assuming it is your first time with the original Half-Life, you get to play through it, then experience the upgrade when Black Mesa drops.
• Is this a joke? (Score:1)

Ha ha, fat chance!
• DNF Mod (Score:2)

I wish someone would make a DNF mod for HL2. That would be priceless.
• Awesome (Score:1)

Never mind the legalities of this, this game is going to be amazing. It brings a new look on a old awesome game and it is free which is gonna make it even better. This is a sort of open source produced game that will show a new way of producing games.

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