Netflix Streaming Arrives For the Wii 171
Grant,thompson writes "As announced in January and mentioned here on Slashdot, Netflix is sending out discs today to enable streaming on the Nintendo Wii. 'Netflix has sent out emails to customers who pre-ordered the Wii's instant streaming disc, indicating that the disc will arrive in mailboxes tomorrow, and that the service will likely start within the next day.'"
great.... (Score:4, Funny)
i can finally sleep at night.
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The Wii appeals to a broader audience than just gadget freaks who buy all the latest HDMI-3D-HD-everything. The little white box has a huge market share, especially among people who don't play "typical" video games. That's why it's a smart move for Netflix, it brings them much a wider audience for not very much effort.
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Funny thing, not everybody runs out and buys every electronic toy on the market. So there's less redundancy in most households.
You need a disc? (Score:2, Interesting)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather that you need to load the netflix disc every time you want to stream stream something?
On my 360 (and I assume on PS3s as well), netflix streaming is built into the software of the device: I can play a game off of a disc until my wife gets home, then switch over to netflix and watch some tv with a few button clicks.
If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience. Why not a WiiWare app
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I gather that you need to load the netflix disc every time you want to stream stream something?
On my 360 (and I assume on PS3s as well), netflix streaming is built into the software of the device: I can play a game off of a disc until my wife gets home, then switch over to netflix and watch some tv with a few button clicks.
If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience. Why not a WiiWare application?
PS3 streaming also requires a disc. I heard it has something to do with xbox 360 exclusivity agreements, but I could be wrong.
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http://www.joystiq.com/2009/10/26/netflix-ps3-disc-must-remain-in-system-until-2010-update/ [joystiq.com]
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PS3 requires a disc, but a Wii can easily be softmodded so that a USB loader (such as USBLoader GX [google.com]) to launch the service from a thumbdrive/usb HD instead of a DVD.
It would be best if they made it into a channel, but they haven't even done that on PS3, so that seems unlikely.
Re:You need a disc? (Score:5, Funny)
If you have to get up and fumble with discs every time you want to switch tasks, this is a big Fail for the Wii in terms of convenience.
Think of it as "Wii Fit Lite"
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Good luck with that. Netflix is beholden to the content owners for that, and they are VERY particular with the who-what-when-where-how of content distribution.
I expect to see Hulu streaming to the Wii before I see a week-old TV show on Netflix.
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It's cool netflix has Heroes available for streaming, but the discs are still unavailable for Heroes Season 4. Very frustrating to see the Play button only.
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because by limiting the platforms on which a service runs will broaden their customer base, enabling them to have better bargaining power with the studios who control source distribution? Thank god you don't run netflix.
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I'm beginning to think that everything will one day stream Netflix. It would be nice if Netflix would concentrate less on getting their service on my refrigerator and more on expanding their selection of movies and shows available for streaming. It doesn't seem to have improved all that much since the service started.
Because selection is dependent on the content providers and not technological limitations, which is far as I can tell are much easier to overcome. However, they have been working quite hard at improving their streaming selection http://criterioncast.com/2009/12/21/criterion-on-netflix/ [criterioncast.com] http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-10426792-261.html [cnet.com]
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They can do both, you know.
(I work at Netflix, on the IT side. I mean, duh, I read slashdot).
The groups working on device support have nothing to do with the groups working on more content; the latter is largely a business effort anyway, whereas the former is SOME business efforts, and lots of technical efforts.
And my impression is that the top two priorities are:
1. More content;
2. More devices.
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Linux support needs to be added. Have they never heard of mythtv?
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They can do both, and the two goals reinforce each other -- the skills to do both are pretty non-overlapping anyway. For me, the streaming has been a non-starter so far because I run a MythTV media center and own a Wii -- the only place I can use the streaming right now is on my laptop (a Mac), which is not the best movie viewing machine.
This brings me into the market now, and makes me think that when I move out of my current place (the account is in my roommates name) I'll get my own subscription as well.
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... more on expanding their selection of movies and shows available for streaming.
What makes you think they're not already doing all they can on that score? They can't show a movie unless the people who own the rights say they can — and the entertainment industry hates and fears the very concept of online availability in any form. Short of hiring mercenaries or mobsters for a little extralegal negotiating (traditional [youtube.com] in the industry, but frowned upon these days) there's not much more they can do.
Meanwhile, the more devices they support, the bigger their customer base, and the mor
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Some of us have been waiting for this and read Slashdot more than we check every manufacturer's website... SLASHDOT IS A NEWS AGGREGATOR THIS IS WHAT THE SITE IS HERE FOR, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT STFU!
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Seconded.
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We get it... Netflix streams movies over the Internet to an assortment of devices.
This is the Wii, not a Windows CE wristwatch - people actually own these in large quantities. Plus, it completes the Playstation/XBox/Wii trifecta.
Add in Mac & PC and Roku, and pretty much everybody who has high-speed Internet in the US can be a Netflix streaming customer.
Their job is essentially done. It's the studios' turn to step up and start licensing content. The customers are waiting (and/or torrenting). The ball
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I wonder if the dolphin emulator could fix this.
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So are you picturing a garage with two dudes in it, both of whom are currently working on putting netflix on home appliances? "Hey Bob, maybe we better switch back to getting some more movies up". If the owners of the content decided netflix could post whatever they wanted this stuff would be up yesterday. Its legal agreements and handwringing with the suits at the movie companies worried about their bottom lines, not Netflix that's holding it up. But given that blockbuster is about to crumble its only a ma
Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet (Score:2)
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Technically the wii won't be supported until 3/26...
When I click on the "Find Out More" it shows that they shipped my disc and it will arrive on 3/26
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Re:Nothing about Wii on the Netflix site yet (Score:4, Informative)
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Technically, unless you're in the group of people getting the first batch of discs, it's not even supported then :)
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It may be multiply staggered. I haven't received a notification yet and I put in my request several months ago. I haven't checked the spam filter yet though.
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I've been checking my spam filter for it all afternoon, and still nothing.
All joking aside... (Score:2, Funny)
So I don't have to wait for the DVD to come in the mail, huh? That's awfully con-Wii-nient!
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The Wii /should/ have plenty of space (mplayer has been ported to it on homebrew) but there's no telling how much cruft the streamin app will have.
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And look at all that VLC can do ... play darn near anything, stream content in *multiple* formats, transcode, etc.
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To answer your .sig:
Don't try to switch. PCs suck at fighting games, in the same way that consoles suck at RTSs.
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After I read you post, I find I must agree. You did put all joking aside~
No email here (Score:2)
I signed up for this as soon as I heard about it. I just checked the email account assoicated with my Netflix account and there is nothing there yet. Hopefully soon, I've been really looking forward to this.
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Log onto your Netflix account and check this page..
http://www.netflix.com/InstantStreamingDisc?device=Wii
It should give your delivery status.
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I did that as soon as I saw I had no email. It says the same thing it said back when I signed up.
"Thanks for reserving your FREE instant streaming disc for your Wii console.
You don't need to do anything else - your instant streaming disc for Wii will ship automatically when it is available this spring."
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Linux (Score:5, Insightful)
Now if only we could stream instantly to a Linux PC without having to resort to a VM running Windows...
Duh (Score:2, Funny)
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This article actually made me wonder, for the first time... if the problem with Netflix on Linux is DRM, could they ship us a disc that would allow us to use Netflix streaming on Linux, just like they're doing for PS3 and Wii?
Dear Roku,
I will buy the above CD for however much money you make on one of your hardware devices.
Sincerely,
Quite a few of us
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That would suck, because then you'd have to reboot and wouldn't be able to do anything else at the same time. I'd prefer a native app, but even a VM would be better than that.
Linux next?? Petition... (Score:2)
Hopefully they will release a Linux version at some point. In the meantime, please take a minute and fill out this petition:
http://www.petitiononline.com/Linflix/petition.html [petitiononline.com] (right now it is at 4429, we can do much better)
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Not worth it for me (Score:2)
I don't watch enough movies for Netflix to be worth the cost. Redbox works better for me for the 1 or 2 times a month I want to rent a movie.
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I have netflix instead of cable. More stuff I want to watch, when I want to watch it and no commercials. I do watch far more DVDs than streaming though.
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VS $2 for 2 rentals a month?
Sigh...need more content (Score:2)
Great, so now I have Netflix on my Vista Media Center, DVD/Bluray player, and now Wii...all hooked up to the TV. Can we get some more content? I totally understand not being able to get recent releases and highly popular new content. But why can't I get 10+ year old movies and TV series from 3+ seasons ago on Netflix Streaming? Probably the last dozen titles I've looked up haven't been available. They should be building up their back catalog and getting obscure titles....streaming should be the answer
Don't use this.You'll get "Very Long Wait" on DVDs (Score:2)
Netflix seems to count streaming views similarly to physical disc rentals, so they de-prioritize your disc rentals the same way as many have reported for people who run through a lot of discs.
I picked up a Samsung Blu-Ray player which supports Netflix streaming. I found the selection to be fairly poor, but because of the easy access I ended up sampling a lot of material. After digging a lot, I turned up some good options, like some Showtime series, and PBS Frontline episodes.
During this time I had actual
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I'm curious, did your coworkers have the same movies at the top of their queues? "Very long wait" seems indicative of "very popular movies".
Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... (Score:4, Interesting)
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Remember that the bandwidth required is cumulative
Good thing the Wii isn't in HD, huh?
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Not everyone has an HD tv... I don't, but I do have a Wii. As a result, I'm excited about streaming on the Wii.
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I'm in the same boat. I am excited about not having to always wait for the disc to show up. After I get a HDTV then the kids can use this.
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No HD capability in my house anyway, so streaming "old fashoned resolution" stuff to my old fashioned tube tv (won't be replaced until it dies...) is fine with me...
Of course, I've not put our Wii on hte 'net yet - don't need to, got kids to worry about with it... and my DSL service tends to die while waiting for PADO packets...
I'm constantly impressed by the bandwidth a rural mail carrier's truck full of netflix dvds provide anyway :)
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Unless they use the browser. Then they might sully their eyes on slashdot!
But I agree, the parental controls should be enough.
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But without any hope of HD, whats the point?
Most of the stuff I watch these days is not HD.
Most of my movies are standard definition DVDs. I have a single TV in my house that can do HD... But, aside from the occasional HD television program, have nothing HD to watch on it.
Most of the stuff I get from Netflix is older titles that, frankly, are more like VHS quality than DVD.
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Yeah, because DVD-quality is so crap.
I mean come on, I play Faroudja upscaled DVD (PAL 576i) on my 40" 1080p HDTV and from my sofa 15 feet away it looks great. Blu-ray only looks a bit sharper thanks to the distance. Just because it's not HD doesn't mean it's useless.
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DVD-quality is not crap, but frankly I do rather watch in HD quality. I have a 50" TV and better HDMI connectors (studio quality, cost like $100.. but for me it's worth it) from PS3 to it and it's clear how much better HD quality is.
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You are about to be rediculed until you create a new account.
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You done got suxx0red on the high end HDMI cables, boy.
Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... (Score:5, Funny)
I hear that square-wave signals look WAY better when they travel through way-overpriced copper rather than inexpensive copper. You can totally tell the difference!
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Why stop there? I only use copper mined from a small mine in the amazon that has been blessed by a local shaman. You think your picture looks better on expensive copper? Mine comes from the freaking amazon. Like acai berries. Ever heard of them? Yeah.
My TV signal is freaking sweet.
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I work in a TV studio. As far as I'm aware, we don't have a single device that uses HDMI as an interconnect.
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"(studio quality, cost like $100.. but for me it's worth it)" /.? /. needs to have a test before giving out user IDs.
WTF? on
I Paid 2 dollars and 5 cents for my shielded 1.3b HDMI cables, and that included shipping. There is no difference between these and yours. I can go to Amazon and get 1.4 for 3 dollars.
Sucker.
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Bits is bits. I paid less for what are probably BETTER HDMI cables at Monoprice, because I understand that Monster and similar brands sell snake oil.
Re:Not to sounds like a video snob ... (Score:4, Informative)
Wrong, there is signal loss in digital. However, you are also right. Once you lose enough signal that you can no longer decode the digital data, your video becomes instantly unwatchable.
Therefore, if you needed a long enough HDMI cable, as the voltage drops enough from the transmitter to the receiver, you'd start seeing the difference between low quality and high quality cables in that the good cables would work and the others would cut out frequently or not work at all.
Not picking on you per se, but as long as we're going to educate people on why they shouldn't waste money on expensive snake oil, we should explain it correctly.
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Once you lose enough signal that you can no longer decode the digital data, your video becomes instantly unwatchable.
While we're nitpicking, this isn't necessarily true. There is such a thing as Bit Error Rate and you can have some in a digital signal and still have a usable signal. It might not even be noticeable. If a 24 bit color is off by the least significant bit for one frame on one pixel would you see it? It's an oversimplified example really, but I hope you get my point. On the other hand, a little bit of nasty on an OC192 can drop every cell call in 100 miles.
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Bit error rates affect different compression schemes differently. Specifically, the more you compress the data in general, the more single bit errors will start to destroy the signal completely, especially if the framing scheme was designed around running over a lossless connection.
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Therefore, if you needed a long enough HDMI cable, as the voltage drops enough from the transmitter to the receiver, you'd start seeing the difference between low quality and high quality cables in that the good cables would work and the others would cut out frequently or not work at all.
Signal loss and error rates aren't about "voltage drop", it's about signal loss and noise gain. Ultimately what matters is the S/N ratio. Also, the HDMI cables are designed with specifications for the allowed signal loss
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DVD-quality? Netflix streaming? Not so much :)
But that does make a point - why worry about HD Netflix streaming when their SD has plenty of room for improvement first...
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The lack of awareness (or interest) isn't limited to movie watching, either -- and here's where you should start paying attention for an idea on how the mass market will respond in the next few years. Only 30% of Xbox 360 owners were aware of the HD graphics capabilities of the machine, whereas that number rises to 50% with PS3. Considering the inclusion of a cheap Blu-ray player in the PS3, that's not so surprising, but, either way, a startling number of "HD gamers" don't know about -- or don't care about -- HD.
I think you'll find there are still huge numbers of people without HD TV as there hasn't been a reason for most people to get it. I'm sure both the 360 and PS3 are helping increase that. The PS3 more so because of blu-ray but considering more people own a Wii than any other console, it's quite safe to say that most people still don't care about HD TV so Netflix doesn't really have to worry.
I like HD, it's awesome, but I (like a lot of people on this site) aren't
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But without any hope of HD, whats the point?
Last I heard Netflix streaming on PS3 and Xbox 360 are both in 480p - same resolution as the Wii.
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But like the GP stated, "without any hope". It's still easily possible for 360/PS3 to add HD quality, but with Wii the hardware limits them from doing that.
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WHat's the point of HD? Its not worth buying a whole new TV for. I have a nice 53 inch SDTV, not upgrading to HD until that breaks. That'll likely be in the late half of the decade, if not next decade.
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The exclusive deal with MS for the XBox360. Running from the disc allows Netflix to bypass the wording of the contract, such that's how it runs on PS3 and probably Wii.
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I'd rather keep my warranty intact thank you.
If I want to work with something hacked together I'll do it on the PC where recovery is simple.
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I'd rather keep my warranty intact thank you.
That explains it. You've only had it less than a year.
Once the shiny novelty wears off, the ability to expand its function is nice to have.
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Signed, a confused Canadian.
I call shenanigans - there's no such place as Canada.
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