Judge Allows Subpoenas For GeoHot YouTube Viewers, Blog Visitors 306
PhrostyMcByte writes "Stepping up Sony's lawsuit against PS3 jailbreak developer George Hotz, this Thursday a judge approved multiple subpoenas which seek logs of all viewers and commenters to his YouTube video, visitors to his blog and website, and all information associated with his Twitter account."
I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Informative)
I really hope SCEA crashes and burns. I personally won't ever support their products again.
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Insightful)
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:4, Informative)
Back when the PS3 came out things looked a little different:
PS3: Supported Linux, lets you replace the HDD, supports generic USB controller, supports generic Bluetooth headsets, supports USB webcams, supports Flash, SD, etc.
Xbox360: No Linux, proprietary HDD, proprietary controller (including special security to lock-out third parties), proprietary wireless protocol, proprietary memory cards and a heck of a lot of red-rings.
Basically the PS3 was extremely open for a mainstream console, far more so then basically anything else, Xbox360 on the other side was as locked down as possible. Sony looked to be on the right track with the PS3, what they hope to accomplish now with this witch hunt is beyond me, it won't put genie back in the bottle, but it goes a long way to ruin their image permanently.
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Some third party controllers no longer work due to the updates either. In trying to block the jailbreak USB dongles they killed many composite devices including early Mad Catz controllers.
Mad Catz offered a replacement if the 3+ year old device was under warranty, although in the UK you can still use the Sale of Goods Act to get a partial refund.
Get rid of your private, individual IP numbers (Score:3)
Re:Get rid of your private, individual IP numbers (Score:5, Interesting)
Once IPv6 really starts being used (granted at this rate that's years off yet, despite IPv4 having officially "run out"), with its huge range, I would not be surprised to see a push from large corporations to try and mandate that IP addresses are directly linkable to people.
the IP system is not setup for any thing like that (Score:2)
the IP system is not setup for any thing like that.
and then you can still post from free wifi places with a cloned mac.
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Outlaw DHCP and set up a replacement which uses a cryptographic token. Replace ID cards with crypto fobs. Every server etc has its own nonhuman cert. Done and done.
and do what force you to replace all network gear (Score:2)
and do what force you to replace all network gear?
most offices uses DHCP for the in side network.
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You mean the same way we were forced to replace our analog TVs?
Yes.
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Once IPv6 really starts being used (granted at this rate that's years off yet, despite IPv4 having officially "run out"), with its huge range, I would not be surprised to see a push from large corporations to try and mandate that IP addresses are directly linkable to people.
Goo d point. Both businesses and law enforcement have strong interest in making sure everyone is trackable by them all the time. Various criminals and spies as well. As technology makes it more possible, legal and lobbying pressure for it will increase. That will never stop. Let's face it - lots of data is easily collected with no detection, and the legal status of this activity often offers little deterrent. These hidden, illegal data stores exist and are bought and sold already. Some legal provision f
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"...mandate that IP addresses are directly linkable to people."
A personal IPv6 address will be assigned at birth, burned into an RFID capsule, and injected into your body. For backup purposes, the number will be tattooed on your forehead in ink made from kitten blood, because large corporations are just that evil.
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A personal IPv6 address will be assigned at birth, burned into an RFID capsule, and injected into your body. For backup purposes, the number will be tattooed on your forehead
I can think of six hundred sixty-six reasons why that will never come to pass at least in countries with a strong Christian right-wing.
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I can think of six hundred sixty-six reasons why that will never come to pass at least in countries with a strong Christian right-wing.
Well, I suppose the religious right will block the kitten blood part of it.
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Yea, because nobody has an individual number associated with them like a physical address, home telephone number, cell phone number, social security number, driver's license number, etc. The Christian right-wing hasn't blown up over that stuff yet, so why would they care if you had an IPv6 address?
I assumed he was referring more to the mandatory tattoo part of the plan. The body is the temple of the soul, man...the body is the temple of the soul.
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nobody has an individual number associated with them like a physical address, home telephone number, cell phone number, social security number, driver's license number, etc.
A physical address, home telephone number, cell phone number, or credit card number is changeable even if by moving. As for a tax or road ID number, it's still possible to buy or sell without either of these numbers by using cash in person or a money order through the mail. Tattoos, RFID implants, and any other unique ID permanently affixed to the body appear far more prone to misuse.
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Yea, because nobody has an individual number associated with them like a physical address, home telephone number, cell phone number, social security number, driver's license number, etc. The Christian right-wing hasn't blown up over that stuff yet, so why would they care if you had an IPv6 address?
When you speak you aren't required to sign it with your ID numbers. On the internet, everything you view or say potentially can be logged and traced. Many parties have an interest in that information and will pay for it. Presto, public mind-mapping data black market. Otherwise legally known as marketing, credit, research, statistics services, security, detective, police, etc.
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tracking ablity (Score:2)
Why do you think there has been a push for it in the first place when 99% of the IPs out there could be using NAT just fine?
You will soon have to get your block of addresses from the government and use them to make ANYTHING work, even your toaster as god forbid you make some toast in another persons home that wasn't authorized to have toast.
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Everyone should share net connections
Read the fine print -- you cannot do that with the connection I am on, and I bet you cannot do it with most "residential" (read: affordable) connections. Your ISP could disable your Internet access for that sort of sharing, particularly when they get a subpoena and you try to claim that it was one of the dozen friends you are "sharing" your connection with.
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Where I live the largest ISP uses Fonera compatible routers for home connections. Unfortunately that's not really anonymous, since you need to authenticate or buy a pass :|
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"Your ISP could disable your Internet access for that sort of sharing,"
Are you under the impression that going to jail or paying millions isn't worth losing your ISP?
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Are you under the impression that you'll get another? One that has acceptable service? Where I am, I have ONE cable ISP available. The alternative is some fairly horrid DSL.
I find it rather simple to not do things that would send me to jail or cause me to wind up owing millions, but by all means go with the "it wasn't me it was the person I was illegally subletting to". That's sure to work out just fine.
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There's nothing illegal about connection "subletting". You may be in breach of contract, but there's no law that prevents such "subletting" otherwise. I don't think that the word illegal applies to breach of contract?
If you are trying to defend youself from, say, accusations of accessing kiddie porn, the issue of whether connection sharing was in breach of the contract you had with your ISP shouldn't matter. The ISP can of course suy you separately, but really both issues got nothing to do with each other.
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Maybe not sharing the connections (that indeed may break the EULA you're under), but TOR is our friend in this case.
Of course, I'm under no illusions that many of you share the connection, even if it's only between several devices. My EULA prohibits even that, with an enforced limit of two devices, in addition to an IPTV set-top box.
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Not much respect on my part either, I confess, but what T-Online HU does is kinda low: not only do they do not grant admin access to the router (the default account is only a power user, barred from actions like backing up and upgrading the firmware) while reserving the right to upgrade remotely both on the router and on the STB, but it appears that the WLAN driver of the router is defective by design.
You see, my contract stipulates a two-device limit on one connection, the STB excluded. I had a laptop, a s
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Basically it means you are responsible for everything which happens on your connection because if someone else is responsible, you are still responsible for letting him do it
Indeed. Having an IP number in your name is a legal risk. So don't get one, share one with lots of people.
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"Now you cannot defend that it wasn't you, because if you do then you've still violated the EULA" -- WTF has breaking the EULA to do with someone doing something bad on the connection that you "sublet"? Those are two separate issues. The former is an issue of contract law and is solely between you and the ISP. The latter may be a matter of copyright or criminal law (media file sharing, kiddie porn sharing, etc).
If the local prosecutor wants to go after whomever was seen, say, torrent-sharing illegal porn fr
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Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Interesting)
Yeah absolutely. I'm an audio engineer for over 20 years now and when I started Sony owned the broadcast equipment market. Then some time during the nineties we began to realise that this stuff was going wrong *a lot*. Their DAT players although standard in many ways failed like no other brand. Panasonic took over that one and I changed my preferences to only buy Trinitron products - which in the CRT days were the best. Then they started failing quite badly too - but not before they'd mugged me for a large multisync CRT that died after about three years. Something very wrong with Sony and has been for years.
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Something very wrong with Sony and has been for years.
When companies have competition they fight for their place in the market. Acting like you're #1 makes you into #2. People bought stuff because it said Sony on it (myself included) and because of their successful advertising. Sony is one of the few electronics companies to have any success with a factory store because, like Apple, they sell marketing. Unlike Apple, however, they pushed profit margins not by inflating prices (although Sony kit does tend to be slightly overpriced) but by compromising quality.
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Interesting)
I used to work for xxxxx many years ago and we had a massive joint project with Sony to create an open reel digital multitrack standard. It failed ultimately but I did learn of the prejudices of the Japanese engineers. Even then (late 80s) the word was that Sony was making deliberately short-lived consumer products which reflected the extremely fast turnover of their domestic market. In the rich parts of Tokyo you could (apparently) retrieve fully working VCR's etc from trash - things discarded for the latest model. Sony I think built this planned obsolescence into their products as they thought consumers were not interesting in having a VCR work for say 5 years.
Probably the peak of Sony design was late70s to early80s and since then it's been laurel-resting and marketing. I too miss the old Sony but I guess Apple have taken that now.
"Something very wrong with media companies". (Score:3)
There i fixed it.
Seriously, this is not a 'sony problem', its a industry problem.
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I was involved in pro video some years ago, and yes, Sony was the top pick when we chose gear for a project. So I bought Sony gear for my own use at home. As tech changed, and I needed to replace things, I bought Sony again, but this time, all that stuff pretty quickly died, long before needing replacement for format or tech changes. The one exception is my Trinitron set from 1995 that is still kicking, but about to be replaced with something I can play HD content on. It won't be a Sony set.
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If you were 15 or less years old, Power Rangers would have first aired before you were born.
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If you were 15 or less years old, Power Rangers would have first aired before you were born.
There's this thing we have in the 21st Century called reruns...
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At this point, I wish SCOTUS would crash and burn.
They've lost all my respect, turning into corrupt politicos pushing their owners' agenda, and not unbiased protectors of the individuals that make up the nation and her constitution. If it wasn't for SCOTUS' bought and paid for decisions during the last 15 years, this would have gone nowhere.
And I can't even vote them off the bench. Some democracy.
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:4, Funny)
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Informative)
Here's one [salon.com]
Here's another one [salon.com].
Is getting asked to speak at a mostly Republican event, and getting "reimbursed for the flight and hotel" enough of a payout for you? How about if it was a first class flight and 5-star Penthouse room with "order anything you want from room service.". Sure, no cash exchanged hands, maybe he just got lobster dinners and got it "reimbursed" because he was traveling to be a guest speaker, and he surely had to eat right? Is that still kosher?
And Thomas' wife works with tea partiers and get money from them. OK, neutral much?
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Lobsters are definitely not kosher, according to Leviticus.
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Don't forget state courts, systematically shooting down the results of various state referendums as unconstitutional.
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That's their job. Just because the people voted for it doesn't mean that it's constitutional. Recently the idiots here voted by a simple majority to require a super majority in the future on measures to raise taxes. It's not constitutional and has already been ruled unconstitutional in other states, but because of people like you that say they can't or shouldn't do it, we're having to see crushing service cuts so that MS and the like can avoid paying their taxes.
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Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Informative)
>>>unbiased protectors of the individuals that make up the nation and her constitution
Where did you ever get the illusion the Supreme Court was "unbiased"??? That was never, ever, never the case. Even as early as 1805 Thomas Jefferson wrote, "You seem... to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions --- a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy.
"Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps.... Their power is the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the Elective control. The constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members would become despots. It has more wisely made all the departments co-equal and co-sovereign within themselves.
"...But the Chief Justice says there must be an arbiter somewhere. True there must, but the ultimate arbiter is the People, as represented by their deputies in the State Legislatures. Let the States decide to which they meant to give power, and amend the constitution if necessary."
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Since the power of Judicial Review is not expressly granted to the Supreme Court by the Constitution, this power is "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people" per the Constitution's OWN words. It is not the Union judiciary's responsibility to protect individuals. It is the responsibility of the People and the States, standing-up for their rights against an overreaching central government-megacorp tyrant, and nullifying unjust laws whenever the occasion warrants.
Re:I'm really getting tired of all this.. (Score:5, Interesting)
In the age of the Sega Master System and the NES, both Sega and Nintendo tried to use "drm" to lock out third-party developers, so only Sega/Nintendo games would be able to run on the respective hardware. Developers didn't like this, so they bypassed it. Both companies sued these "hacker" "pirate" developers. In both cases, the cases were thrown out with prejudice, but not before the judges verbally tore Sega/Nintendo a new one. One judge said if they ever hear a peep from Sega again on the issue, they will invalidate their trademark on Sega. (Sega's lock-in technique was to have the console check to see if the first 4 bytes of the ROM were "SEGA" and then sue for Trademark violations).
Not that much later, even watching a video about installing software not signed by the cartel can get you arrested and thrown in prison for a decade or longer. Obviously something has changed. But you're right, it's not the courts that were bought and "convinced" to change their minds. Installing third-party software was made illegal by the DMCA. It was politicians who were bought. And for how much? It's all public, just look at how much Sony and Microsoft and Apple and Nintendo (etc.) have paid to various politicians, with the "understanding" that if they don't get the laws they want, those payments will stop. This is not a bribe because the money comes before the "request", I guess, or something. I'm sure a politician can explain why it's not a bribe.
On the other hand, the DMCA has exceptions for breaking DRM for the purpose of third-party compatibility, so maybe the OP was right, judges just might have been paid off to ignore such exceptions and enforce vendor lock-in, outlawing jailbreaking. This is bad news for people who jailbreak iPhones, too, as it shows that even explicit exceptions to the law can be ignored if you just throw enough money at the legal system.
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Seven days before issuing a ruling in Eldred v Ashcroft [wikipedia.org], Clarence Thomas accepted a seven-figure advance [slashdot.org] from Harper Collins on his memoirs.
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You might look into Asus as well. The hardware is nice, and you can sometimes get it without Windows. Just replace the Xandros adaptation they use with something that doesn't suck. I had a VAIO and it was a really nice machine, but that was many years ago and they had yet to do a lot of the dickish stuff that caused me to avoid paying money to them.
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But those few thousands are precisely those that get asked by their friends and families to recommend them a laptop, what console to buy for their kids and so on. I must have done that kind of thing for at least 20 people, and I generally try to avoid it if possible.
But piss me off and I get a lot more dedicated. I recently went shopping with somebody to make sure that their new TV wouldn't be a Sony one.
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What'll be interesting is if some of those masses had watched that video and find themselves in hot water. Over watching a video! In a free country!
Well, maybe not so free any more. Brought to you by Carl's Jr.
Re:Like Sony cares (Score:4, Insightful)
You know? I think it would be fun if all of /. hunted down said YouTube videos and left comments on them... each one describing exactly (and in clear layman terminology) why Sony is wrong, should go out of business, etc.
I figure after the 10,000th one or so being read into public record, they might just get the hint.
Re:Like Sony cares (Score:4, Interesting)
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It's like being angry at the rope instead of the guy who tries to strangle you.
Your rights to privacy and to free speech cost as much for you as you fight for it.
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Do you just avoid things that say "Sony" on them, or avoid everything held by Sony itself? Sony owns a cubic shit ton of other corporations and products, many of which aren't labeled as such. They also own large stakes in many other businesses; so do you avoid all of there tentacles?
Well then... (Score:2, Informative)
Shouldn't we all view his video and leave a few choice comments about what a dirty little slut the prosecution's mom is?
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Go for it (Score:5, Interesting)
I will watch the youtube videos just to make extra work for Sony - even if it's only a second or two of their time. I would love for them to come knocking - I don't own a PS3 (nor intend to), never owned a PS2 and my wife's PS1 is collecting dust in my basement. In fact, except for the PS1 only Nintendo has made it inside the walls of my house.
Oh, and I'm Canadian. *flips Sony the bird*
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I don't own a ps3 either. But that wont stop sony from getting a subpoena and having the cops kick down my door looking for it, with no investigation first. Just the fact that you (may) have knowledge makes you a criminal and you will be treated as one. You will have your belongs destroyed, taken and your financial ( and perhaps professional ) life ruined as you try to fight for your innocence. And if you prove ou are innocent, you wont even get a 'oops, our bad'. you get to rebuild your life on your own di
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Which videos are they?! We're not encouraging the Streisand effect as should be required!
More About the Judge (Score:5, Informative)
This says less about Sony, and more about the judge in the case. According to several ratings websites, Hon. Joseph Spero is pretty new to the Magistrate bench, and has the reputation for being predisposed to siding with government and business 100% of the time. Hopefully there will be an injunction and appeal coming soon on this.
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So freedom of speech stops at the court room door, huh?
More on this note (Score:2)
You say a Judge has a position of honor in our society. For what reason should we honor them?
Do they build homes or cars?
Do they design electronics or circuits?
Do they use medicine to heal people or animals?
Do they educate the young?
Do they put their lives on the line to protect us from crime or fire?
Do they make great discoveries that advance human knowledge?
They create nothing to help the people of this nation. The only reason they deserve any "honor" is because they can forcibly put you in a jail cell
Go after him, not his viewers (Score:5, Informative)
As much as GeoHot put himself in this whole legal mess, with his publicity-seeking and taunting of Sony, it's asinine of Sony to go after his YouTube viewers and commenters. I guarantee that 99.9% of the viewers are just bystanders who wanted to see what all the fuss is about. He created the content and put the video up, people who simply clicked "play" did nothing wrong. In fact, YouTube holds more guilt than all of them simply for making it available.
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Dammit, did everyone miss the scary point? Now I know why we face the threat of the end of the world in 20 months in Dec 2012 - because we might have destroyed the internet by then and we can't go back to the land before internet-time now.
View this either as multiplication, or set theory -
(Huge Disastrous Precedent) * (Temporary Artificial Narrowing of Scope) = "Yesterday's News".
Then because we are Dopamine-Junkies, "Yesterday's News" is never good enough! So then the (Temporary Artificial Boundaries on Sc
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I'm not sure what you're trying to say.
can you write it in something other than LISP?
Re:They are going after him, dolt (Score:5, Informative)
The entire purpose of getting IP addresses is to establish that many people from California downloaded information. Why is this important? Because Sony wants to sue in California, instead of where GeoHot lives. That's the purpose of this exercise, determining where the case is filed.
I think the judge should have required a neutral third party to analyze the data, instead of trusting Sony, but otherwise this is legitimate.
Re:They are going after him, dolt (Score:5, Informative)
Then it is not a valid purpose. Caselaw concerning the internet and personal jurisdiction has been clear for at least the last decade: you have to specifically transact with someone within the jurisdiction. Offering "static" information to the entire world does not subject someone to to personal jurisdiction within every court within the United States. Bensusan Restaurant Corp. v. King , 126 F.3d 25 (2d Cir. 1997). Sony has to show that GeoHot made a "purposeful availment of the benefits and protections" offered by California, not that he posted a video that even a horde of Californians viewed on YouTube. Bensusan; International Shoe Co. v. Washington , 326 U.S. 310 (1945).
An unsupported conclusion is no conclusion at all. Cite your authority.
This is getting ridiculous (Score:5, Insightful)
Maybe they will ask Google for people who have searched for certain terms, code names, utt.? What's next, going after people who criticize this witch hunt from Sony?
It is funny that some lawyer drones are capable to destroy everything company tried hard to build. It is time to require lawyers to have not only knowledge of law, but also understanding of common sense and intelligence. Otherwise modern society will slowly kill itself with such attitude.
Oops, here it is again... (Score:4, Informative)
Haven't we learned yet that threats of legal action don't stop anything?
erk: C0 CE FE 84 C2 27 F7 5B D0 7A 7E B8 46 50 9F 93 B2 38 E7 70 DA CB 9F F4 A3 88 F8 12 48 2B E2 1B
riv: 47 EE 74 54 E4 77 4C C9 B8 96 0C 7B 59 F4 C1 4D
pub: C2 D4 AA F3 19 35 50 19 AF 99 D4 4E 2B 58 CA 29 25 2C 89 12 3D 11 D6 21 8F 40 B1 38 CA B2 9B 71 01 F3 AE B7 2A 97 50 19
R: 80 6E 07 8F A1 52 97 90 CE 1A AE 02 BA DD 6F AA A6 AF 74 17
n: E1 3A 7E BC 3A CC EB 1C B5 6C C8 60 FC AB DB 6A 04 8C 55 E1
K: BA 90 55 91 68 61 B9 77 ED CB ED 92 00 50 92 F6 6C 7A 3D 8D
Da: C5 B2 BF A1 A4 13 DD 16 F2 6D 31 C0 F2 ED 47 20 DC FB 06 70
~geohot
props to fail0verflow for the asymmetric half
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i do not condone piracy
if you want your next console to be secure, get in touch with me. any of you 3. ...and this is a real self, hello world
it'd be fun to be on the other side.
although it's not NPDRM, so it won't run off the hard drive
shouts to the guys who did PSL1GHT
without you, I couldn't release this
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What the hell (Score:4, Insightful)
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crossing of a threshold (Score:2)
We have just crossed over where mere curiosity or even an accidental landing can get you a visit by an attorney at best, or your home raided at worst.
Never thought id see us dip so low in my life time. Gotta love a world run by attorneys.
What happend to proving intent (Score:4, Insightful)
Regardless of my disagreement that using your own hardware as you like is a crime this has dangerous connotations.
What if i decide i want to do research on a subject like the history of illegal drug use ( more of a black and white case )? Does that mean i get the feds beating down my door just because i did a search or read something? How about researching effects of child abuse? Am i now considered a contributor and can expect a visit?
What if i write a book about something that is declared illegal later... am i now considered a criminal and everyone that bought my book?
What's the point? (Score:2)
PAS3 Jailbraking video link? (Score:2)
Anyone got a link to the PS3 video. I wanna buy a used on off CL and Jailbreak it and I have several sites that I can post the video too. You know, to use it as I wish because its mine. Just like I use the radio control and servos from my RC car to control other things or is this kind of behaviour illegal now?
I Hope They Supeona Me (Score:4, Informative)
I'd love to testify about how I used his Nuit Du Hack talk as part of the Hardware and Media Security class this semester and why I think it's perfectly legitimate and worthwhile security research.
Scary beyond extreme. Boycott Sony. (Score:2)
How is this any different then forcing a library to turn over a list of what I read, what I listened to on CD and what I watched on DVD and Blu-Ray?
What's next? Will they now say give us a list of all people that checked out Sony products at a library so we can get a subpoena to search the patron's home for a copy of whatever was checked out that originated from Sony. This ruling is beyond extremely dangerous.
I've been boycotting buying any Sony labeled products since they pulled that rootkit crap a few
Time for some civil disobedience, neh? (Score:4, Insightful)
I think it's high time for some civil disobedience.
I propose we post the links to the contraband youtube videos, the blog this guy maintains, and his website, and slashdot them. Post them to 4chan, explain the situation, link back to this story, get Anonymous to hit them as well.
Sony wants to subpoena "logs of all viewers and commenters to his YouTube video, visitors to his blog and website"?
Well, good fucking luck with that, because there will be millions of 'em within a week, and the information will be endlessly redistributed and remirrored across the Internet, because information wants to be free, and the tech-savvy community (unlike the general public) still values our civil liberties enough to click on a few fucking links.
The stupid thing is, by going after this guy they're just providing free publicity, as we've seen happen so many times before in such instances.
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Why are they so desperate to have the case heard in San Francisco?
I'd say they're desperate to have the case heard anywhere they can get ahead, San Francisco just happens to be the place it's working.
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They're more than welcome to ban my IP addy... I'm sure my Wii would have a pretty hard time getting into PSN even without a ban. :/
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When I buy something I want to use it the way I want, not the way somebody told me.
Yes, because as we all know, you "own" what you buy...
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Yes, because as we all know, you "own" what you buy...
As much as you can own anything ever, you own whatever you buy. Unfortunately for you, there's lots of laws that permit the government to take things that you "own" away from you. Further, when you buy a program on CD or whatever the law essentially means you've only bought the media and its contents aren't really yours. And if you're connecting your computer to someone else's network and you've agreed to let them manage it then you deserve the management you get. You're free to buy the PS3 and bring it hom
Only if Morita and Ibuka are still alive... (Score:2)
Only if Akio Morita and Masaru Ibuka are still alive to see this.... right now they're probably turning over in their graves (or urn, since Japanese by and large cremates their dead.)
closed source devices (Score:2)
I don't own a PS3 and wouldn't buy one because I don't support closed source devices.
Just so that we can get definitions straight before proceeding further (Layne's Law), how exactly do you define "closed source devices"? Does a non-free BIOS make a device closed-source? What about a non-free microcode in the CPU?