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Bubble Bursting On the MMO Market? 162

An anonymous reader writes "An article at Ten Ton Hammer has an interesting take on the current state of the MMO genre; not too doom-and-gloomy, but it makes some good points. Ultimately, it's about how games that foster community the most will stay strong."
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Bubble Bursting On the MMO Market?

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  • by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Thursday June 02, 2011 @04:47AM (#36317286) Homepage

    Pretty much the whole article is about how cool Rift is, how smart he is, and how cool Rift is. Other than being an unabashed Rift fanboy - the author's qualifications are what?

  • That did it! (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Neptunes_Trident ( 1452997 ) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @05:14AM (#36317366)

    Soulskill is on my ignore list now.

                                                                                 

  • by iamhassi ( 659463 ) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @05:42AM (#36317468) Journal
    and this part threw me for a loop:
    " In the later part of the 90's I was working in a high stress industry that required long hours and a good part of my soul, but it paid really well. As friends of mine started to migrate away to new internet start up firms in droves, I was tempted to follow them for the promises of a better work environment and fat stacks of quick cash. Luckily, I had a fiancee..."

    Um, how old is this guy? A 30 yr old would be in his teens in the later part of the 90s, not exactly fiancee age with friends joining internet firms.

    This thread on a WoW forum has a Medawky (same name as author of this article) turning 35 back in 2008 making him 38 now. [verndari.com] Medawky is also the name of a high level (82 is high, right?) WoW character which leads me to believe it's the same guy [battle.net]

    Don't get me wrong, 38 isn't too old to be playing MMORPGs, but perhaps he's not the best judge of if the bubble is bursting or not. Perhaps the MMORPG bubble is bursting for almost 40-somethings like himself, the article would be more believable if it came from a 20-something with some actual numbers showing a decline in players
  • Rubbish (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DerekLyons ( 302214 ) <fairwater@@@gmail...com> on Thursday June 02, 2011 @06:02AM (#36317560) Homepage

    Don't get me wrong, 38 isn't too old to be playing MMORPGs

    Being just shy of 48 myself and an active MMORPG player, I should hope not.
     

    Perhaps the MMORPG bubble is bursting for almost 40-somethings like himself, the article would be more believable if it came from a 20-something with some actual numbers showing a decline in players

    And why would a 20-something be more believeable than a 30- or 40- something?

  • by Tridus ( 79566 ) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @06:29AM (#36317718) Homepage

    It's going to burst at some point simply because many of the people who joined the genre with WoW never play anything else. When they get bored with WoW (and given how badly Cataclysm is doing in North America, they ARE getting bored with WoW) they leave the genre entirely instead of going for another game. That spirals downward the same way it spiraled upward: as your friends leave, you have less and less reason to keep playing. So you leave. That in turn gives your friends who are still there less reason to play. Almost my entire network of friends is gone from the game now, and I didn't hold out all that long without them because farming loot with strangers who don't talk just isn't very interesting.

    You keep that trend going for a while and the whole genre shrinks. Which is probably a good thing. These games are a lot more fun when they're about doing stuff with friends instead of competing to get loot before some other random people. If companies don't all aim for 5 million subs we'd probably be better off.

  • Re:Skinner Boxes (Score:5, Insightful)

    by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @07:24AM (#36318028) Journal

    By that same standard, just about ANY entertainment is equally immoral. Go read a book - whups, the author MIGHT be telling you that story merely to hook you and get you to read his next book!

    Seriously, you're 'discovering' the relationship between media, consumer, and producer that's existed since advertising was invented, but reached its zenith with free-broadcast TV: the programs are bait, to get your eyeballs on the screen, and your attention is being sold to the advertisers, the real customers in the transaction. When you say "there are too many commercials", that just means the bait is too small for the hook, and the fish are swimming away.

    So for MMOs, they continue to entertain you with a carefully-metered trickle of rewards to keep you entertained? So what? If you're paying to be entertained, isn't that the point? I can drop $15 on a month of an MMO, and have hundreds of hours of fun, or I can spend $15 on a theater movie (and get 90 minutes of entertainment, and perhaps a pop or popcorn), or I can spend $15 on a pro sports ticket and get maybe 15 minutes of a game. Which is the best entertainment value?

    For all the people complaining about being conditioned as a faux-excuse for their excessive gameplay: grow up, and either enjoy your hobby unashamedly, or (if you feel your focus on it is too excessive) just change your friggin' behavior.

  • Re:Rubbish (Score:3, Insightful)

    by slackbheep ( 1420367 ) on Thursday June 02, 2011 @08:29AM (#36318402)
    Gamer in my mid twenties weighing in here to point out that if anything I'm more interested in what the beards have to say than another of my so called peers :P
    Lets put it this way, when was the last time you were looking for the guy with the LEAST experience for advice?

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