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Nintendo Announces New Console: Wii U 330

_xeno_ writes "Nintendo has announced the official name for what had been known as 'Project Cafe:' the Wii U. It is an HD console, it retains backwards compatibility with the Wii (it's unclear if this includes GameCube software), and the controller does, in fact, have a touch screen on it. Nintendo demoed moving a game off the TV and playing it solely on the Wii U controller." Also in E3 news, cylonlover writes "At its E3 press conference Sony finally revealed that its next generation handheld — previously codenamed the NGP — will carry the official moniker of the 'PlayStation Vita.' The PS Vita — which is Latin for 'life' — will come in two flavors: a Wi-Fi only version priced at $249 in the US, JPY24,980 in Japan, and EUR249 in Europe, and a 3G/Wi-Fi version going for US$299, JPY29,980 and EUR299."
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Nintendo Announces New Console: Wii U

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  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @02:58PM (#36365850)

    My Hands hurt just looking at that controller.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )
      Yeah, it looks like what the Sega Game Gear would have looked like if it had been designed by Apple
    • Re: (Score:2, Funny)

      by sqldr ( 838964 )
      after a recent incident involving a bottle of cinzano and a wii nunchuck, I'm having similar feelings about my butt

      er, did I just say that out loud?
    • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *

      Good lord, that's the first thing I thought too. I love the specs and games they've announced, but Jesus does that controller look like it would be a pain in the ass to hold for any length of time. I get carpal tunnel syndrome just looking at it. Damn thing is almost as big as an iPad (and a lot heavier I bet).

    • by juancn ( 596002 )
      Early hands-on seem to agree that the controller is really comfortable. For example Ars Technica [].
  • price (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:01PM (#36365886)
    those controllers look like they are going to cost more than the console...
    • I suspect most multiplayer games will be playable with wiimotes, only requiring you to own one screen controller... which will be bundled with the console. Would be cool for split screen though to use the displays and have the TV show game stats or a map or something.
      • From decades of experience, I can tell you that ANYTHING that is related to that level of being optional will not catch on. Virtually anything that's not considered "standard equipment" (for ALL the players) will be avoided by the developers, as few want to target the smaller market segment.

        • Generally yes, however you do miss the one exception to that rule. Nintendo doesn't play by the same rules as sony and microsoft. Nintendo is well known for one huge ability. The ability to make the games that can sell a system all by themselves. Face it, nintendo would still have sold millions of wiis, if you limited the supply of games exclusively to titles developed in house by Nintendo. Even if the controller is only required to play nintendo in house games, they will sell.
          • Re:price (Score:4, Informative)

            by MBGMorden ( 803437 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @04:51PM (#36367632)

            Virtual Boy
            Super Gameboy
            SNES Mouse
            N64 Transferpack
            Nintendo 64DD
            N64 VRU
            Gameboy Printer

            There are a ton of Nintendo Accessories that flopped because they were off the wall and not supported by many games.

            • Re:price (Score:4, Insightful)

              by scot4875 ( 542869 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @06:02PM (#36368568) Homepage

              Why the fuck do people keep bringing up the Power Glove as a Nintendo accessory when it was made by Mattel?

              Also, you forgot the E-reader. But also, you forgot that people buy the accessories because they think they're worth buying for the uses that are available. Anyone who bought a Gameboy Printer and thought it was going to hit some mainstream feature status that all games would use was an idiot. Only a fool would buy something solely based on what it might be able to do in the future.


    • those controllers look like they are going to cost more than the console...

      The video is rendered and streamed from the console [] apparently.

      So I'm sure that cut some corners, err I mean costs.

    • From what it appears most of the processing is done on the console side and sent through a wireless signal. So the unit itself will be pretty light weight and wont need to contain a lot of processing power to display the image and send and receive information. The cost will mainly be in the battery and the screen. As for the end cost, Nintendo can afford to release their next console at a loss, they were profitable with the Nintendo Wii from launch day and could take a loss to be competitive.

      From my pers
  • Err...What?? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Houndofhell ( 1480889 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:03PM (#36365910)

    They call that a controller? Yeah maybe for a giant. The way the Wii was designed in the past you want real movement and reflexes with the controller.

    Just thinking back to those people who accidentally threw their Wiimotes into their TVs, can you imagine the mess that one would cause :)

    • This one seems more tilt-motion controlled rather than the fuller range the wiimote handled. I doubt anyone will swing this at their TV.
    • I was excitedly waiting to see the size of the new Wii controller - because my favorite line to use in chat rooms is "my nuts are bigger than the original Xbox controller" and I was hoping to update my quote (as fewer people remember the original Xbox controller) - but now, it's just not going to make sense unless I shave my balls and slap a sticker in the middle. :\
    • Re:Err...What?? (Score:4, Interesting)

      by Hatta ( 162192 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:24PM (#36366182) Journal

      That looks even worse than the Atari Jaguar controller [].

    • My understanding is that the old remotes will work with the new wii.
    • Just thinking back to those people who accidentally threw their Wiimotes into their TVs, can you imagine the mess that one would cause :)

      If you look at the Nintendo website you can see that the new system will also support the old Wii motes (and Wii motes with motion plus). You would likely use those for the more active (sports) games, and the new controllers for the games that are more similar to what is played on other consoles currently.

  • by Lemmy Caution ( 8378 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:04PM (#36365928) Homepage

    Pii U.

  • by SaidinUnleashed ( 797936 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:06PM (#36365944)
    PlayStation Vista. I bet THAT ONE will be AWESOME.
  • I though it was the Wii on U
  • The alt text for the image is "new nintendo wii e3 small". Yeah, there's nothing small about that control, people. This is probably the most anti-Nintendo thing I think I've ever seen Nintendo do.

  • by psergiu ( 67614 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:14PM (#36366034)

    > The PS Vita — which is Latin for 'life'

    Vita - which is a Romanian derogatory term for "cow / bovine" :-)

  • This controller seems like it's well suited for turn based RPGs and that's about it. You have to LOOK at the controller to do anything on that touch screen, and that goes against much of the philosophy of modern games. I get the general idea, you put your status indicators and such on the controller screen, but to really register anything you're going to have to be looking at it all the time.

    I'm hoping that this is a mistake that this is the default controller and they expect you to normally used an evolv

  • I just gave in and bought a Wii last week.
    Oh well, at least it will be easy to find used games soon.
  • I find it strange the whole concept of a second movable screen for gaming strange. How exactly do games benefit from this? If you're aiming for casual gamers, then the second screen will likely add "workload" (for the lack of a better term), as a player will have to share his attention between two screens. Will casual gamers want this? If you're aiming for the more hardcore gamers, than two screens can decrease immersion, as the player has to stop focusing on the game to twiddle with a touch screen. If th
    • Let's think about Multiplayer games instead, which to most "casual" gamers is what's important.

      In some games, you actually want to keep things hidden from the other players. This is true of practically all closed-hand card games and LOTS of board games. Consider games like scrabble, where you have the "main" board and your own set of letters. This controller could easily have things like your "hand" which can be kept secret/hidden from the other players. The whole Ipad/Ipod scrabble thing (where you c

    • by bws111 ( 1216812 )

      Seems like it would be good for any multi-player games where a player would want to keep something secret from other players. If you're playing a sports game, make your play selection on the handheld screen, then do the actual playing on the TV. Make your car selection (Mario Kart) on the handheld, etc. In addition, it opens up all kinds of possibilities with card games, word games, board game simulations, etc.

  • What will happen when we all are carrying multiple cellular-enabled devices? Would you simply pop a SIM card into each cellular device? Will you have to pay for each device? Would your plan allow for up to X number of devices? Or would they simply bill you by total sum of bandwidth?

    My guess is that, the cell companies will take the most complicated solution possible. You will need to bring each cellular device into the store so they can activate it for you. Each device will have a different bandwidth

    • by QJimbo ( 779370 )

      Up here in Canada, Rogers and other providers offer Data Sharing plans and allow you to add a device to your plan for $10 a month and get a data-only SIM card for them. I'm sure the same thing is available down in the US.

      And even if that doesn't work for you many modern smartphones can act as WiFi Hotspots, though this does considerably reduce the battery life of the phone.

    • by Luyseyal ( 3154 )

      Each device will have a different bandwidth limit and your bill will be 10 pages long.

      Your bill is only 10pp long? I have 3 lines on AT&T and mine is 58pp long. Glad it's a PDF instead of mail, though.


  • that Xbox and Sony are bound to have equal failures.
  • I haven't seen mention of how many of these new uber controllers can be active at a time. Just one? Hopefully two. I'm guessing the streaming video will limit on the number they can support.
  • I always liked my Atari Jaguar, but the thing that always bothered me the controller wasn't big enough. Thank god someone finally got around to making an even bigger controller to finally accommodate me.
  • When the Wii was announced people were _very_ sceptical about the whole motion control thing...

    I'll wait and see if this is a winner or not. Also, I'm wondering if it will play my old Wii games. Not really that interested in keeping a stack of consoles in the living room.

  • Hard to say (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Godai ( 104143 ) * on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:41PM (#36366388)

    I look at that controller and I think both "Wow, cool!" and "Holy crap its big!" But it wouldn't be the first time we've all thought the Big N has lost their collective marbles only to be right. When they announced the N64 with its 3-prong controller, everyone said that looked like the most uncomfortable thing they'd ever seen -- and it was maybe the most comfortable one I've ever used, even to this day. When they announced the DS, everyone thought they were certifiable, and it turned into the best selling handheld of all time (no, we're not counting the goddamn iPhone just because it can play games). And I seem to recall that the Wii's announcement was also met with a fair bit of ridicule and it outsold its competitors (at least console-wise).

    Of course, they also released the Virtual Boy (or whatever that thing was called) and that was a trainwreck. Still, I'm going to withhold judgement until I can try it for myself. At the very least, it sounds like there's some real possibility there. I just hope I'm not paying $150 a controller!

    • Of course, they also released the Virtual Boy (or whatever that thing was called) and that was a trainwreck.

      Headache-inducing, no good game lineup, and you had to sit in an awkward position non-stop to play it. That was a mistake from the beginning.

    • <pedant>Technically, the Nintendo DS is the second best-selling console of all time, behind the Playstation 2 (146.42M vs. 150M as of December 2010).</pedant>

    • by Luyseyal ( 3154 )

      The biggest issue with the DS was that it took a long, long time before interesting games became available on the platform.


    • by elrous0 ( 869638 ) *

      You should have seen the Power Glove. It was so bad!

  • by bughunter ( 10093 ) <> on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @03:42PM (#36366426) Journal

    That Wii U photo makes it look a whole lot like one of several [] makes [] of Small UAV hand controllers [].

    A lot of work goes into the ergonomics of these things, because soldiers spend a lot of time using them, so there's a reason they all look very similar. Several ergonomic factors, obvious from the convergence of these designs, appear to be universal:

    - Touchscreens are sexy but impractical. They're imprecise without a stylus, awkward to hold, and you have to obscure your view of the action to effect a control.
    - It's nearly impossible make the screen too large. There's a reason the screen is big and dominates the faces of all of these units.
    - Controls are arranged on the sides so that the fingers can take the weight while the thumbs work the controls without requiring the user adjust his grip.
    - Control paradigms are borrowed from the original Playstation hand controllers because most users have prior experience with them.
    - Light weight tradeoff against battery life, screen size, and ruggedness.

    Looks like the convergence is happening from both directions. And it's not surprising because the human interface requirements are very similar in both applications.

  • "and can be used in conjunction with Wii controllers, the company said"

    Hold your horses people, they aren't saying you have to use this mammoth just to play wii bowling.
  • I see a lot of possibilities here. What about a Battlefield 2 style command and control team system? The commander could have the main screen and the troops could use their controllers as FPS devices.

    Or playing mario kart, each with there own individual screen and the TV showing a top down view of the amp with score keeping.

    I'm excited about the potential...
  • They could have named it the Wii Wii.
  • FYI, "Vita" is a Latin world as much as it's an Italian one. The meaning is the same, too....
  • This controller (too big for extended gaming periods, though it is likely to be revised before launch) and feature-set won't appeal to the hardcore gamer but is perfect for the mid-core gamer [].

    Backwards compatibility with the original Wii means a neverending stream of casual games (that will continue to be created for both Wii and WiiU), good to share with family and friends; but now finally A-titles will be released for the three main systems, so the mid-core player won't be left behind.

    People speculated th

  • Do they have to make it this friggin easy?

    What game console is that?

    I think it's Wii U

    I we you what?

    What's the third gen tech going to be - the "Wii U Mii"? Followed closely by "Thay Wii U Mii"?

  • the one geared more towards young kids? I wouldn't trust my kid with that.
  • This controller looks more like a cross between the Wii classic controller and an Intellivision controller.

  • Wii U, Wii U, Wii U :-(
  • Is there some kind of internal contest within Nintendo on who comes up with the most idiotic name? with big cash prizes? instant promotion for the winner?

    I really can't explain it otherwise...

  • That's $365 for the Wi-Fi and $439 for the 3G in the EU - they don't list UK prices, but assuming £249 and £299 that's $409 and $491 respectively.


  • by taucross ( 1330311 ) on Tuesday June 07, 2011 @07:05PM (#36369208)
    If Nintendo get off their collective asses and add some decent HTPC capability to this unit, that remote would be quite awesome.

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