IeSF Wants International Game Tournaments Segregated By Sex [Updated] 221
RockDoctor (15477) writes The Guardian is reporting that a Finnish heat of an international gaming competition is being segregated into male and female branches in accordance to international rules. The International e-Sports Federation (IeSF) want "eSports" to be recognised as equivalent to physical sports. And that, it seems, requires that competitors be segregated on grounds of sex. Which may be appropriate for pole vaulters, but not necessarily appropriate for ePole vaulters. This leaves the organisers of national heats of eSports in a rather invidious position of having (in this case) a tournament only open to "Finnish male players." Update: 07/03 14:38 GMT by T : As several readers point out in the comments, this policy has been abruptly reversed.
simple fix (Score:5, Insightful)
Cargo-Cult Sociology (Score:5, Insightful)
"I don't know why it's important for physical sports to have gender segregation, but they do it and people recognize them as legitimate! If we segregate by gender, maybe that's what will make people recognize us as legitimate!"
Just like in programming, this line of thinking clearly translates down to "I have no idea what I'm doing, and I have no idea what the consequences of these choices are, but I'm just going to bang at things until something works or everything breaks."
(Spoiler alert: usually, everything breaks.)
to help future generations of dorky male teens.. (Score:3, Insightful)
No Longer News (Score:2, Insightful)
They already changed their stance.
http://ie-sf.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=iesf_notice&wr_id=105
Re:simple fix (Score:5, Insightful)
Whatever old people want it to be.
Seriously, just abandon the word "sport". It's not helping in any way. Trying to avoid "gaming" is understandable, as it means "illegal gambling" to many people, and in many laws, but there's got to be a better word than "sport".
"eSports" is trying to come down on the wrong side of the great jock-geek divide. Why do that?
Re:interesting times... (Score:4, Insightful)
so a lot of people think that there should be no gender seperation in shooting sport competitions, and I tend to agree. but for some reason, the top females can never quite break into the top levels with the top males.
This is simply not true. Margeret Murdock [wikipedia.org] won a silver medal at the 1976 Olympics (she lost the battle for gold under very controversial circumstances) and set four individual world records. In the eighties, most shooting sports became gender-segregated, the only exceptions being skeet and trap, which became gender-segregated right after a woman (Zhang Shan [wikipedia.org]) had won the gold medal in the skeet competition in 1992. There are other examples as well.
So, if today's women are no longer competitive with men, then that's certainly a consequence of gender segregation and not an argument for it.
Re:Already changed (Score:0, Insightful)
Sports VS competition (Score:3, Insightful)
I dunno, I've always equated "sport" with some physical activity. Certainly gaming can be a competition, but is it really a sport? Similar I've heard of chess tournaments referred to as competitions rather than as sports.
Re:simple fix (Score:4, Insightful)