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EA Blocks 'Origin' Access In Six Countries, Citing US Embargoes (pcgamer.com) 121

An anonymous reader writes: "In compliance with US embargoes and sanctions laws, Origin is not available in Cuba, Iran, Myanmar, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and Ukraine (Crimea region)," a community manager from EA posted in September. Engadget calls it "a reminder of the risks you take when buying copy-protected game downloads... Even if you started your account elsewhere, you aren't allowed to either visit the Origin store or use any of your purchased games."

Sunday an employee at EA's Origin game store commented "This isn't an EA-specific issue -- it's an issue that impacts all companies offering services that are covered by trade embargoes." But since the U.S. lifted sanctions on Myanmar in September, EA "is internally reviewing the situation... It's unclear to me whether we can do anything for residents of other countries that are still similarly embargoed, but I'll bring the topic up for discussion internally."

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EA Blocks 'Origin' Access In Six Countries, Citing US Embargoes

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  • by Anonymous Coward

    What's the status of the Cuban embargo? I know you can get Cuban rum in the US now, and there are travel commercials heavily promoting flights from Fort Lauderdale to Cuba on Radionomy internet stations (like almost every commercial break).

    • Re:US Cuban embargo (Score:5, Informative)

      by Gavagai80 ( 1275204 ) on Monday October 31, 2016 @01:01AM (#53182033) Homepage

      The embargo remains in place, only congress can end it and the republican party at least has no intention of doing so. Obama has stretched the rules about as much as presidential discretion allows.

      • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )

        The embargo remains in place, only congress can end it and the republican party at least has no intention of doing so.

        Of course not. Cuban exiles and their families are pretty much the only Latino support the Republicans draw.

    • by kav2k ( 1545689 )

      Anecdotal evidence, as a Chrome Web Store developer I was notified on Oct 17 that free CWS items are now available in Cuba. I assume paid items aren't because there is no payment processing yet.

      So at least Google is lifting sanctions-induced embargo.

    • by Nidi62 ( 1525137 )
      Commercial air service has started back up form the US to Cuba, but from what I understand the US government still requires the reason for your visit still to adhere to a fairly narrow set of authorized purposes.
      • by AvitarX ( 172628 )

        They haven't changed the reasons you're allowed to visit at all, they have simply switched to assuming your visit is legitimate, and only investigating if they are suspicious you are lying (no pre clearance necissary like their used to be)

        There are companies that sell packages that meet the cultural exchange requirement, and you can basically just buy one and fly there with minimal effort now.

  • by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Sunday October 30, 2016 @09:55PM (#53181443) Journal

    EA's game servers were down several hours yesterday, affecting dozens of games (I play Simpsons Tapped Out lol). I wonder if this was a DDOS response attack against EA, or if they totally screwed up their access block and ended up blocking everyone?

    https://twitter.com/AskEASuppo... [twitter.com]

  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:12PM (#53181491)

    If you're not in a first world country. Pirate all your games just in case.

    Actually that's true for first world countries too. Never know when ea will fuck you.

    EA GAMES - we fuckup everything

  • reminds me of UMass (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Laconique ( 3426803 ) on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:18PM (#53181507)
    Last year, UMass had suddenly cited compliance to refuse graduate students form Iran. http://college.usatoday.com/20... [usatoday.com] It's bizarre when civic and corporate entities enforce laws that even the government doesn't ask them too
    • by Kkloe ( 2751395 )
      It is in the law, the gov can say\dont care if it being followed, but the gov can change, specially who is in charge changes and suddenly the company could stand there with a 1$billion fine from the government
  • by Lisandro ( 799651 ) on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:29PM (#53181555)

    A sad reminder of how the first sale doctrine is now a long forgotten memory.

    Are users even getting a refund?

  • by aliquis ( 678370 ) on Sunday October 30, 2016 @10:40PM (#53181585)

    .. with foreign elections, ..

    Whatever one has a problem with that is up to each and everyone I guess. I have absolutely nothing against American citizens or the American life-style but it's food for thought it the situation was the other way around:
    * Sanctions against the USA.
    * Pakistan and Afghans drones which bombed in the other direction (you see, I can't even write the sentence as it should be written because if I did I'm sure some US filter would catch that and flag me as suspicious and super-dangerous.)
    * Got invaded to have the ruling government replaced by something else, possibly nothing.
    * Other nations trying to influence the election outcome (we really have a bit of that with Russia and Trump, how much does Russia care beyond just being somewhat amused? I don't know!

    Is the purpose that the citizens in those nations will wake up and riot and demand a change of their leaders? How likely is that result? Has it been the result anywhere so far?

    Of course here in Sweden I would just be happy if someone helped us remove our ruling elite but in most scenarios I can understand if people get pissed.

    • * Sanctions against the USA.

      So... no more H1-Bs, outsourcing and the price of oil would increase? DO WANT!

      * Pakistan and Afghans drones which bombed in the other direction

      I hope they would go after the evil execs of companies or maybe the KKK. Getting it wrong sucks but thems the breaks.

      * Got invaded to have the ruling government replaced by something else, possibly nothing.

      Sounds like that would finally be enough to get people to fight for their rights instead of accepting the status quo!

      * Other nations trying to influence the election outcome

      So far all they have done is exposed wrongdoing within our government. That's something I like!

      I gotta say, it seems like it could be worse.

      • by aliquis ( 678370 )

        So... no more H1-Bs, outsourcing and the price of oil would increase? DO WANT!

        Not being allowed to export or import goods kinda suck. Though it's less of a problem for the US since it's so large and in the front-end right now you can be very self-reliable.

        I guess eventually you'd lose your edge if you didn't have access to the global market though. And for something like North Korea which doesn't have shit or even Iran considering how little those nations produce beyond pumping up the oil ..

        I hope they would go after the evil execs of companies or maybe the KKK. Getting it wrong sucks but thems the breaks.

        KKK is just fine but I get your point, getting rid of trash may be nice. Out in reality chance

        • it's less of a problem for the US since it's so large and in the front-end right now you can be very self-reliable.

          that's something i would like to see and would pay for instead of global exploitation and unnecessary dependency that props up nations like syria.

          KKK is just fine

          i'm certain that people from pakistan and afghanistan would disagree.

          I get your point, getting rid of trash may be nice. Out in reality chances are their families and friends and so on risk being bombed too I guess. Fair?

          absolutely. there should be a price to associate with evil and some people might actually start shunning these bastards like they should have been doing already.

          you need to preserve your negative freedoms, you're one of the very few nations which actually kinda have them

          and here i thought you didn't like us. ;)

          • by aliquis ( 678370 )

            that's something i would like to see and would pay for instead of global exploitation and unnecessary dependency that props up nations like Syria.

            Personally I think that it make sense to make things where's it's most efficient and from those who are best at it. Swedish trucks for Spanish tomatoes, or would you had wanted it the other way around? =P.
            It's very unlikely that I'll be able to get a Swedish-made processor and even if I did ..
            Also it brings the world closer which is retarded when people like our prime-minister have to keep a good relation with Saudi-Arabia even though the rule there is terrible simply because he likely don't want to ruin ex

            • Personally I think that it make sense to make things where's it's most efficient and from those who are best at it.

              It does but I also think all nations should strive to be self-sustaining.

              Why is Syria and Iran worse than Iraq and Saudi-Arabia? Isn't it simply because they aren't US allies strategically?

              oh this is embarrassing, I wrote Syria when I means Saudi-Arabia. Anyway, I think any nation that's being propped up by simply extracting oil should be cut off because they aren't doing the world any favors by extracting it at all! We need to move to electric cars charged using solar/wind/nuclear/etc and use bioplastics instead of garbage plastic that cakes our oceans.

              How would our own leaders deal with it if we tried to force them out?

              by "them" do you mean our own leader? we try to force them out on

              • by aliquis ( 678370 )

                It does but I also think all nations should strive to be self-sustaining.

                It's of course safer that way.
                Then again just one more reason the globalists wouldn't want to have that =P

                oh this is embarrassing, I wrote Syria when I means Saudi-Arabia. Anyway, I think any nation that's being propped up by simply extracting oil should be cut off because they aren't doing the world any favors by extracting it at all! We need to move to electric cars charged using solar/wind/nuclear/etc and use bioplastics instead of garbage plastic that cakes our oceans.

                True true. I said I liked / loved Americans and your society and that's one thing I don't like about it though. The kinda disrespectful behavior against the environment. People just shooting bullet after bullet into something, blowing things up, shooting things into pieces, less recycling, land-fills, oil fracking, .. Sweden is likely more messy now than it used to be, or at-least than what it could ha

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
      Well they are certainly welcome to try but I imagine we both know how well such a course of action would go for anyone attempting it. Economic sanctions against the US would honestly be harder on the rest of the world that it would for us. It would trigger a massive global economic crisis.

      As for any sort of military action against us, especially from nations like Pakistan and Afghanistan, well good luck with that. Not like we have responded with massive amounts of force or anything in the past, to such at
      • by aliquis ( 678370 )

        I'm not denying the capability of the USA.
        The question is just whatever it should be done :)

        "With great power comes great responsibility"? ;D

        • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
          It's like trimming your nails with a chain saw. Can it be done? Sure, but it's probably going to cause you more problems than it's worth to try.
  • by Blue Stone ( 582566 ) on Sunday October 30, 2016 @11:23PM (#53181705) Homepage Journal

    EA took these people's money. When they did that EA violated the US embargo. So that ship has sailed. EA broke US sanctions.

    Now EA has removed access to the games people in these countries bought and won't refund them. That doesn't undo EA's sanction breaking, it just heaps upon it the act of fleecing the customers from these countries who paid money for the games in good faith. EA is punishing innocent people for an illegal act by EA.

    EA needs to refund these people's money and talk to the US government about what fines EA will have to pay for THEIR misdeeds.

    • by jaa101 ( 627731 )

      I'm pretty sure that any attempt by EA to send money to embargoed countries is going to be seen as illegal and is even more likely to attract the attention of the authorities than processing the original purchases. For one thing, they won't be able to claim ignorance; any refund attempt would be clearly corporate-sanctioned embargo breaking. If you must blame someone, let it be the US Government; their law punishing presumably innocent citizens of selected countries is the root cause of this injustice. EA's

      • by Anonymous Coward

        "EA's only contribution has been some incompetence from which they are unable to recover."

        How fortunate for their bottom line.

    • by Anonymous Coward

      EA may have broken those sanctions because they weren't paying attention. That's probably grounds for getting a pass with only a fine or scolding.

      But any further interaction would be knowingly violating the sanctions. That's spend-time-in-jail territory. Sorry, but it's stupid to expect anyone at EA to risk jail over such a thing.

      When you've found out that you've made a mistake, the first thing you should do is to stop making the mistake worse.

      Since the government put the ban in place. Its resolution shou

      • by Calydor ( 739835 )

        Perhaps EA could do something nice (yeah right) and talk to the US government to perhaps get an exception to return money to these accounts, perhaps under orders that no single account can get more than X dollars back.

  • Who wants to purchase DRMd spyware shit from EA in the first place? Give them your money only to be treated like shit? This makes no sense.

    If it isn't on GOG or available directly without DRM strings it might as well not exist.

  • Eventually all DRM servers on the net will go down, and your wonderful collection of games will not be accessible any longer.
  • Not that I'm actually motivated enough to check on this...but I'm willing to bet that Steam blocks these same countries. I don't mind giving EA flack where flack is due, but the law is the law. This has nothing to do with EA and more to do with the US government. If Valve isn't adhering to the law, they are at risk of being sanctioned, just like EA would be with origin. That being said, EA is still a sack of shit.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Apparently, not, since Steam seems to be based off EU regulations.

  • This implies that DRM and "software as a service" can be used for political ends. Sure it'll give instant results but it will deter people from buying those products and services, and encourage home-grown solutions. Not a good move for the US but maybe good for diversity.
  • I think Stargate Command blocked it.

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