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Ask Slashdot: What Modern PC Games Would You Recommend For An Old School Gamer? 313

wjcofkc writes: The last time I was a serious gamer, I was playing Quake and Quake World. That type of first person shooter, with the qualities it offered in terms of physics, level layout, and community, produced for me some very fun times. I have long since fallen away from gaming entirely, but frequently look back to that era with great fondness. My question to the community is, are there any current games that recapture the spirit of the original Quake? Note: This is strictly for PC gaming as I do not own a console.
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  • Nothing (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Spy Handler ( 822350 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:45PM (#55086543) Homepage Journal

    You'll never have that kind of fun again playing computer games, because you're not 19 anymore.

    I know because I went ahead and played the games I played when I was young, and it's just not as fun anymore. Games haven't changed, I have.

    • Games haven't changed, I have.

      They haven't? Some people hold the opinion that The Elder Scrolls, for example, have been dumbified quite a lot recently.

      • Try going back and actually playing earlier Bethesda games in the series or even the originals. They haven't aged as well as you imagine they have. They're awesome for about 10-20 minutes as you experience a rush of nostalgia, and then you realize they actually pretty much suck by today's standards.

        I've learned not to replay any old games for the sake of preserving my rose-tinted memories from my childhood and early adult life. It's much more satisfying to buy the newer remakes, and then just complain ab

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      Yeah he shouldn't bother trying to have fun with things he enjoyed before, it didn't work for you anymore so why would anyone else bother?

      In actual response to the question : Doom 2016 or Quake Champions

    • and it's just not as fun anymore

      The fun is still there, just the expectation is different. This is one of the main reasons for the roaring success of Doom. All the fun of the original fast action packed arcade but with modern graphics that meet the expectations.

      I'm currently playing Puyo Puyo Tetris on the Switch. Though I wouldn't actually play the original Tetris in DOS anymore because frankly it would hurt my eyes.

    • Re:Nothing (Score:4, Informative)

      by Bigbutt ( 65939 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:40PM (#55086925) Homepage Journal

      It depends. I"ve picked up the original Doom series, Half-Life 2, Carmagedden, and Starcraft Remastered and still have a good time with them. I've picked up the newer versions of these games like Doom, Wolfenstein, and Starcraft II and even other games like Left4Dead, Fallout, and Bioshock and just don't find them as mindlessly fun. Even jumping across from tower to tower in Doom still gives me a thrill. :)

      Hell, Steam is having a sale again. Quake, Quake II, Quake III Arena, and Quake III: Team Arena are up for $1.24 or $3.24 each. Shoot, for $6.24, you can get Quake, Quake II, Quake II Mission Pack: Ground Zero, Quake II Mission Pack: The Reckoning, Quake III Arena, Quake III: Team Arena, Quake Mission Pack I: Scourge of Armagon, Quake Mission Pack 2: Dissolution of Eternity. (I know what I'm getting right now :D ).

      Why not keep playing what you like? :)

      [John]

      • by Bigbutt ( 65939 )

        Hah. A Bethesda Softworks Classics Superbundle has that plus the original Wolfenstein 3D, Heretic, and quite a few others I recognize :) Big snag and lots of "wasted time" this weekend :)

        [John]

    • I think it's more than that. I was 24 at the time and the excitement for me was always the newness of it not so much the actual game. Quake was pretty groundbreaking. So much so that even Cox Communications had dedicated Quake servers back when cable modems weighed 10 lbs and had actual heatsink fins coming out of the top. There was another startup called TEN (Total Entertainment Network) that created a IPX to TCP/IP plugin for Duke Nukem 3D. There never was anything more fun video game wise for me.

      I used

    • by skam240 ( 789197 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @07:27PM (#55087213)

      The average age of a gamer in 2016 was 35. http://essentialfacts.theesa.c... [theesa.com] . I realize that what constitutes a gamer can differ widely based on who you ask but what this assuredly says in that adults play lots of games.

      In other words getting older does not equal too old for video games. Sure, your personal tastes have changed over time, mine have too. I have no use for pro sports anymore and I used to love that stuff when I was a kid. Some one starts rattling off team and player names at me now and my eyes just glaze over. (My favorite is when some one asks me if I caught "the game" last night. What the hell are you even talking about?) Do I think pro sports are childish and for kids? Of course not, tons of adults enjoy them. Pro sports just arent to my taste.

      I still enjoy video games however and am well into being a responsible adult (although I have less time for them nowadays :( ). Don't confuse your own experience with everyone's reality.

    • Re:Nothing (Score:5, Interesting)

      by UnknownSoldier ( 67820 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @07:34PM (#55087249)

      > Games haven't changed, I have.

      Yes they HAVE changed -- often times for the worse. FPS Map Design 1993 vs 2010 [imgur.com]

      Modern games are full of bullshit:

      * unskippable cut-scenes
      * MTX (micro-transaction) because the game devs don't respect your Time, Space, nor Wallet.
      * Season Pass
      * bullshit DLC [fjcdn.com] (DownLoadable Content) [imgur.com]
      * QTE (Quick-Time Events) You remember Dragon's Lair ? Yup, that's what modern "AAA" gaming has devolved into.
      * Grindfests aka Skinner boxes [wikipedia.org]
      * Flat UI that you can't fucking tell what are UI elements you can interact with vs static elements.
      * Multiplayer games that don't allow you to run your own server -- typical EA bullshit.

      When the "gaming industry" refers to its customers as "whales" you know they don't give a fuck about you -- only how long they can keep "milking" you. If you wat to know the general state of the "industry" Jim Sterling [youtube.com] excellent Jimquisition [youtube.com] pretty much sucks up the fuckery that publishers and devs try to pull.

      With that said I'm a professional game developer and have over 500+ games in my Steam Library. This is my "best of the best" of modern games are in alphabetical order (I've included the "genre" in parenthesis):

      * Borderlands 1 and 2 (FPS)
      * Dishonored 1 and 2 (FPS)
      * Doom (2017) (FPS)
      * Elite: Dangerous (Space)
      * Inside (Adventure)
      * Left for Dead (1 not 2) (FPS)
      * Limbo (Adventure)
      * Luftrausers (2D shmup)
      * Minecraft (3D Survival)
      * Path of Exile (RPG)
      * Portal 1 and 2 (Puzzle)
      * Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 and 2
      * Serious Sam 1, 2, and 3 (FPS)
      * Terraria (2D Survival)
      * Team Fortress 2 (FPS)
      * The Stanley Parable (Story)
      * The Talos Principle (FPS)
      * The Vanishing of Ethan Carter (Puzzle)
      * The Witness (Puzzle)
      * Torchlight 1 and 2 (RPG)

      Stay away from grind-shift-fests like:

      * Defiance
      * Destiny
      * Diablo 3
      * Evolve
      * Fashionframe, er, Warframe

      There are still some good games out there -- but about 95% of them are shit. i.e. Any game that has non-cosmetic MTX is crap.

      • by skam240 ( 789197 )

        I disagree with "often for the worst". I can't even play a lot of older games I used to love because the old UI's were so clunky and/or terrible. That alone puts modern games well ahead of older ones in my mind.

        • Of course there are exceptions.

          For example, the beautiful:

          * Limbo,
          * Inside, and
          * The Vanishing of Ethan Carter

          have no HUD -- and they pull it off perfectly! They are gems in an otherwise turd filled landscape.

          But yeah, that is one of the downsides of older games -- the UI tends to be a _little_ less streamlined. I'll take clunky UI over MTX any day though.

          • by skam240 ( 789197 )

            Outside of expansion releases I don't think I've ever played a PC game with micro transactions (would an expansion even count?).

            Clunky UI equals I won't waste my time with it which is an individual's worst grade for a game. Meanwhile, I could play something with micro transactions if they were done right.

      • Just wanted to second the recommendation for The Talos Principle. It will make you think about more than just solving its puzzles, and some of that may be what you need for the experience to be memorable as an adult. Portal and Portal 2 are also excellent.
      • * Left for Dead (1 not 2) (FPS)

        Why not L4D2? It's as much fun as the first one and there's still plenty of players online.

      • Torchlight is just a grindfest like Diablo, except with even less story.

    • >I know because I went ahead and played the games I played when I was young, and it's just not as fun anymore. Games haven't changed, I have.

      I dunno. I played my first LAN party game of Quake in ages last month (playing the CustomTF mod for Team Fortress that I wrote) and it was still a heck of a lot of fun.

      In fact, the people that I was playing with were rather surprised at how much faster players used to be than in modern CoD games where you're running in mud in comparison.

      While there's modernish clien

  • by turkeydance ( 1266624 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:46PM (#55086559)
    then no.
    • by Osgeld ( 1900440 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:43PM (#55086943)

      when I got quake I ran it from dos in 320x240 on a 486DX2, its pretty old school

      • when I got quake I ran it from dos in 320x240 on a 486DX2, its pretty old school

        But it was so revolutionary with it's mini GL port for Rendition and then 3dFX Voodoo. Got me into gaming too, being a quantum leap in visuals over the original Doom. Then after playing all the mission packs, there was Quake 2, Unreal, Deus Ex, Half Life, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Far Cry (my all time favorite), Call of Duty, Crysis....

        I left off around there. Like the OP I am looking to take up gaming again. Look forward to the suggestions on this thread. The latest Doom is top of my list.

  • Portal (Score:5, Informative)

    by iMadeGhostzilla ( 1851560 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:49PM (#55086583)

    I'm in the same boat, played it all in the 90s and hadn't played anything since Half Life, until Portal 1 a couple years back. It was everything I wanted in a game, I played it for about two weeks an hour or so after work, between plays I couldn't wait going back to it. That's not terribly modern but there you go. Someday I will play Portal 2 too.

    • by dmbrun ( 907271 )
      Yep Portal and Portal 2. Throw in Half Life as well and possibly Half Life 2.
      • Yes, Half Life 2 is well worth it, because then you can enjoy the Concerned parody comic that much more. At least watch one of the playthroughs on YouTube if you can't be bothered to work the puzzles yourself.

        Haven't played HL1 yet, still waiting for that fan-based remastered remake... is it ready yet?

    • You'll probably be interested in my list [slashdot.org] of good games.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Ditto. I didn't think I would like Portal game when I bought The Orange Box from the local retail stores. Since it came with HL2, I decided to try it. Oh man. Valve Software made a good decision to include it with HL2 and TF2. I still haven't bought and played Portal 2. I am still trying to resume and finish my old computer games (finished Crysis 1 & Command & Conquer 3: Kane's Wraith, and trying to finish World in Conflict) from a decade ago during my unemployment period.

    • Portal 2 is great. Portal 1 feels like it was just a demo or proof of concept for Portal 2.

      I liked Half Life 1 and all its variants. Half Life 2 annoyed me; I waited until it was cheap since I hated the new DRM crap it had, then was disappointed that the game suddenly finished without resolving any storylines or saving the day, and you have to buy "chapter 2" to continue (screw that).

  • I played the demo (Score:5, Informative)

    by Billly Gates ( 198444 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:54PM (#55086625) Journal

    I am now 40 and bad news. I can't play anymore. My reflexes have remarkingly slowed down terribly. I am done before I see what is up. I get confused and pause on maps too for a good 1/6th of a second too. I am not really out of it like I am 80, but that one 1/6th of a second pause where I wonder where I am on the map and look around is enough for someone to run a rail in the back of my head.

    I am not 23 anymore so I gave up on FPS. You can try but the young kids today will 0wn you as they have 200% faster reflexes

    If you want to do something fun us old farts do MMOs like SWTOR (star wars the old republic) and or Elder scrolls online based on based on Skyrim. Man this is depressing

    • Crazy almost 50, playing world of tanks and kicking arse, playing world of warcraft cleaning up in raids, and occasional overwatch and CS and I can hold my own.

      The thing about getting older, you might not have the reflexes, but you can still learn maps, tactics, and experience to handle situations.

      But, World of Warships and World of Tanks is less FPS and more of strategy with some FPS features.

      Lots of games out there to enjoy. Star Citizen has a large older gamer population.

    • by antdude ( 79039 )

      Ditto. I used to hate turn based games, but I love them now since I am old and slow these days.

    • Re:I played the demo (Score:4, Informative)

      by pcjunky ( 517872 ) <walterp@cyberstreet.com> on Friday August 25, 2017 @09:22PM (#55087721) Homepage

      For those who reflexes are too slow for twitch shooters there is Mech Warrior online.

      BTW: Your reflexes will return pretty quickly if you give a little time. I am 57 and still play Counter Strike.

    • Plenty of games that don't need reflexes still. The whole twitch style of gaming never appealed to me anyway. A lot of games make it easier because they're ports from consoles where you can't do twitch play anyway because of the ungainly controllers. And FPS tend to dominate which means huge budgets with little room for actual game play or bug fixing, with lots of fans who will mercilessly mock your $2000 gaming rig for being a beginner's set up. You really don't need the fast reflexes except for player

    • by CBravo ( 35450 )
      I'm 42 playing Battlefield 4. It took me a while to get into it. I never played FPS when young but I am having fun now and ending up in the top 5 normally. But the fun part is the most important one.
  • Yeah, it's a niche genre that's being brought back a little bit.

    DOOM (2016) multiplayer is very much like the old Quakes:
    https://doom.com/en-us/ [doom.com]

    Quake Champions is sort of like Q3A:
    https://quake.bethesda.net/en/ [bethesda.net]

    Unreal Tournament is being re-made too:
    https://www.epicgames.com/unre... [epicgames.com]

    If you want a slightly less retro feel, some of the faster-paced MOBAs are reminiscent of the older games. Try Lawbreakers, Dirty Bomb, Ghost in the Shell, etc.

  • Right now there's not really anything on the market for a 'middle of the road gaming PC'. Most people are either focusing on a high end gaming machine or they just go for consoles.
    • Ahh crap, I miss tread the question... NM.
    • Naw, I disagree. The shooters tend to be marketed to high end rings only, but there are a lot of games I like that work on my system great. The gamergodz will diasgree but I am not playing in their silly world. Fallout 4 does not need a high end rig, neither does Skyrim, the new Thief reboot, Tomb Raider reboot, all worked great for me. I was not getting 100fps but 30 is good enough to enjoy games if you're not constantly twitching.

      At a certain point your average PC with 8GB and a $100 graphics card bec

  • by hduff ( 570443 ) <{hoytduff} {at} {gmail.com}> on Friday August 25, 2017 @05:59PM (#55086675) Homepage Journal

    Most all the old ones can run under WINE, PlayOnLinux, and Crossover, or they have a modern, multi-platform game engine and hires textures. I'm getting my friend set up to play Quake using the Darkplaces engine for MS-Windows and with hi-res textures. As awesome as Quake seemed in 1996, it is even more awesome now. It is impressive that fans of these classic games have kept after them all these years. It seems that those games were just that good. Many are still available for purchase from vendors like GOG.com and Steam if you have misplaced your original CDs.

  • Mass effect, elder scrolls (morrowwind and skyrim mostly)
    • by heypete ( 60671 )

      I concur. Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 are a lot of fun, though I prefer 1 and 2 over 3 most days. I really enjoy the character development and the environments, though I admit some of the levels on ME1 are a bit "cookie-cutter" (you find yourself storming the same planetary bases over and over), but otherwise the games are a ton of fun. I keep going back to them every year or so.

      ME: Andromeda is, so far, less enjoyable than the earlier ones.

      The original Deus Ex and its modern sequels are great fun, as are the H

      • +1 to Deus Ex. Fallout is another one.
        • by heypete ( 60671 )

          Agreed. I liked Fallout 3 a lot (1 and 2 are great as well, but aren't FPS). Fallout New Vegas was nice, but got really repetitive after a while. I played it all the way through, but it didn't really have the replay value I wanted.

          I started playing Fallout 4, and it looks promising, but the "fuel" mechanics for the power armor is a bit annoying (though not deal-breaking). Alas, finishing my PhD got in the way, so I haven't had a chance to play it. Elite: Dangerous, a space sim, has my current attention but

          • I rarely used the power armor for that reason. When I play it again I'll get or build a mod that lets you run in power armor for free.

  • by sursurrus ( 796632 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:05PM (#55086719)

    Overwatch - It's a relatively casual fun shooter, playable on a nongaming pc, and there's a balancing system so you are playing in games with people of roughly your skill level.

    FTL - A cheap and fun Steam game, relateable to old-school sci-fi fans, a full game can be played through in 2-3 hours (or 20 minutes if you're a speedrunner). I have gotten over 100 hours of entertainment out of it, from my initial investment of $10 during a sale.

  • My big brother had a Zenith(?) TV set that had a button you could push to switch it to a game of Pong. The most basic, boring game ever. We were absolutely FASCINATED by it.

  • You're obviously into FPS games. I don't play those like I used to, they mass produce them these days and though there's some good ones out there they've failed to lure me in as of late. Closest thing to an FPS that really lured me in recent years wise is Portal.

    What has captured the spirit of a little later FPS's now considered classic, such as Unreal Tournament but isn't even an FPS is Awesomenauts. It's got the team play and cooperation mid-era FPS's and I love it.

    I like platformers, my first system w

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:16PM (#55086791)

    As a person who also grew up in the same time, built my own PC's back then (I miss my AMD K6-2 and Athlon) and continues to causally game today (and continues to build my own pc's) the issue with gamming today is virtually all the games worth causally playing are designed to run on laptop hardware. League of legends, TF2, Overwatch, SC2, These are all games you can sit down at not have to worry about remembering were you were in the story since you last touched it a month ago and play for 30 min to an hr. (you really have more than 2 solid hrs to dedicate to gameing as a 40yo?)

    Buy a $300 bare bones kit, stick a $300 video card in it and you'll have a gameing PC that will do 95% of what you want. (you'll spend another $1500 chasing that last 5%)

  • Its free, has old school 3D graphics and is shitloads of fun for a 40+ year old, because the game offers so much freedom and doesn't depend on fast reflexes like Battlefield and COD for example do. Take a look here: https://soldnersecretwars.de/m... [soldnersecretwars.de]
  • This suggestion won't immediately address your nostalgia issue. But if you want to putter around a little more with games, and don't want to buy a console and stay exclusively PC, install the Steam app/client (its free).

    Steam, from a business perspective, is a game management interface/platform. It makes money by acting like a software games store (its a middleman). But besides the client program being free, it can help you access/install free games (and you can google/reddit for lists of free games avai

    • /. in general has a split mindset regarding steam. Some like it because of the convenience of one stop shopping for most games. Others mostly the militant Anti-DRM people hate it, because to them anything not open source and DRM free is evil.
      • I guess for my personal edification, I'd have to see what specific Steam DRM features are they objecting to.

        Yes, there is an implied requirement to have working steam/publisher servers to permit installation or allow gameplay, but that can be addressed by backups. If you backup the steam folder, and individually backup each game, you should be able to install/run each game offline (thus indefinitely).

        Steam does limit you to three game installs, but you can still remove a game install from a machine, and mo

  • by future assassin ( 639396 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:23PM (#55086829) Homepage

    Modern FPS based on DP engine and tons of fun servers with modified game plays. http://www.xonotic.org/ [xonotic.org]

  • I spent a good year on that game. Best FPS of it's day.
  • by musicon ( 724240 )
    Like you, I was playing on the PC well before Wolf3d, Doom, Quake, etc came out. Most current modern games (like the current iterations of Doom, Overwatch, etc.) are too flashy and have too many different colors, landscape and building details, and distractions for me to be able to focus well on the hunt. I'd recommend TF2.Half-Life, HL2 (and episode 1 & 2) are good as well. Also Portal and Portal 2.All of them use older, more simple engines that won't support all of the flashy effects, and as a bypro
  • The most recent iteration of Doom IMO captured all the things that made the original great. Arcade style fast paced action. Basic map navigation (find keys, unlock doors). Interesting bosses, it can be quite challenging, and best of all none of that hyper realistic stuff that seems to bog down modern games like weapon reloading, only being able to carry 1 big gun etc.

    I highly recommend it.

    • Doom (2016) is a very much a modern interpretation of old school shooters like Quake - way more than other modern FPSs like CoD, BF, Halo, etc. It captured the over the top speed, action, fun factor, etc. perfectly and the changes they introduced fit perfectly. The new Wolfenstein is also quite good, but I enjoyed the new Doom more.

  • I don't know if you're going to find anything these days that matches that experience. I think a number of suggestions by other posters are good. Half-Life (1 specifically) was a very good game, on a versatile engine that became used for multiple community efforts. The Half-Life mod Counter-Strike was very popular, and the derivative Counter-Strike : Global Offensive is currently popular. Team-Fortress 2 is another game with roots in a Half-Life mod. Portal and Portal 2 are must play first person...err
  • by wjcofkc ( 964165 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:37PM (#55086911)
    Going through the comments so far, I took a look at Quake Champions. Just what I have been wanting. Now we will see how my own personal age factor affects the enjoy ability.
  • by techno-vampire ( 666512 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:39PM (#55086917) Homepage
    If you want old time FPS fun without worrying about such details as what's plausible, try out Redneck Rampage [wikipedia.org], the expansion pack Redneck Rampage: Suckin' Grits on Route 66 and the sequel Redneck Rampage Rides Again! Lots of surrealistic violence at several different difficulty levels. Yes, the clipping's a tad careless so that if you kill somebody behind a barrier their arm might stick through, but for me, at least, that just adds to the charm. Written for DOS, it plays under Windows, or in DOSBox, and if you're running Linux, it works just fine under Wine.
  • The kids are in to Overwatch for FPS these days, but if you've been out of PC gaming for a while you might want to check out Bioshock. Single player only, but even my wife was hooked after playing for 5 minutes.
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @06:58PM (#55087047)
    Dragon Age (any) and Mass Effect 1-3 (skip Andromeda, buggy mess). Pilliars of Eternity, Tyranny and Divinity Original Sin. Torchlight I&II, The Adventures of Van Helsing. Street Fighter 4 (not 5), Injustice & Mortal Kombat 9/10. Ys, Xanadu Next or pretty much anything from Nihon Falcom. Sonic & Sega Racing Transformed (great game, lousy title). Cave Story, Momodora I-IV, Freedom Planet, Shadow Complex, Rayman Origins. Fire Pro Wrestling.

    I'm mostly a "PC Console Gamer" to be fair. My bro's a strategy gamer and there's something of a renaissance going on if you've got the cash (the games are usually about $60-$100 if you buy the expansions, and you will buy the expansions). But I can't speak to those.
  • Bioshock for sure. Deus Ex, masterful. Get the original, skip Invisible War, and continue with Human Revolution. Borderlands was a lot of fun. Half life, not nearly as inventive as I wished. Same with Crysis, and Halo. I tried Fallout 3 but couldn't get into it. No ammo anywhere and a vast world with few clues what to do. I hear Fallout New Vegas is a different story altogether so that's what I'm trying next. I did play Duke Nukem Forever all the way through, just because.
    • I'll second BioShock and it's sequel. I have but have yet to play #3 so I can't comment on that. On Steam, you can get the predecessors System Shock 1 & 2. Others have mentioned Portal 1 & 2 and I'll agree.

      In additions to Steam, head over to GOG.com and see what they have. For example I lost Myst during some move and I bought it for $5 when it was on sale and enjoyed some old memories.

      I wished I had more time to play as there are some good ones out there, even for us mumble>40mumble players.
  • I've never played it myself, but it's getting a lot of love on some video game podcasts I listen to. Some of the guys on Giant Bomb are old farts like you & I too.

    I just confirmed, it can be played first or third person.

  • by SCVonSteroids ( 2816091 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @07:03PM (#55087089)
  • The spirit of the original Quake?

    Devil Daggers.

  • by snookiex ( 1814614 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @07:36PM (#55087259) Homepage

    There are really good modern old-school games made by indie developers/studios. The Humble Bundle [humblebundle.com] is a good way to start. Here [wikia.com] is a somewhat outdated list of bundles. Many of those games can be bought on Steam too.

  • I'd recommend Crusader Kings 2. It's not exactly turn based but its pretty close, and if you like the old strategy games you may like this.
  • Red Faction was the most amazing game of that era. It still, to this day, has a huge community and I've seen new maps being made for it. Red Faction was the first game to let you alter your world. Pull out a rocket launcher and play through the wall, floor, ceiling, etc. As you change the environment, it's changed for the rest of the game. The gun selection was fantastic and the LAN play to this day is top notch. Graphics are good on a moderate video card or usable on even a laptop.

  • Welcome back you were expected. I have a 4 second video nobody liked 400K times, the demographics are incredible with that traffic. There are three spikes in ages 36, 55, and 61 when people come back to games.

  • by dkman ( 863999 ) on Friday August 25, 2017 @09:14PM (#55087669)

    cross platform and free. cant beat that with a stick.
    http://www.urbanterror.info/ho... [urbanterror.info]

  • Starseige Tribes is still going. Mech warrior online is a new take on an old classic. Counterstrike (various incarnations). Team Fortress 2 (or just TF2 to those who play it, it's probably the closest to Quake World).

  • The pinnacle of Quake 1 was Mega Team Fortress afaic. Just started playing Ballistic Overkill and I'm having a blast with it. Any game that doesn't need me to fire up wine, VirtualBox, or PlayOnLinux is even better in my book.

  • Quake is not an old-school game. Most first person shooters are just prettier versions of the same thing.

    How about Sopwith Camel and Ancient Art of War? The later was the original tower defense game, only there was only one tower.

  • Our hobby has grown alot, and in many different directions, and so have you, and so has anyone who will answer you. Lately, gaming has also done something a great deal less common: it has united many different traditions into one modernity. I could show you something that I feel is a revival of the old ways. But my old ways aren't your old ways; four different kinds of console gamer still exist even though only three kinds of console still exist, and the PC is exponentially more riddled with tiny little zei
  • It's almost as fun as Windows 3.1 Solitaire was.

    (Yes, I know, don't ruin it)

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