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Popular Mechanics Defends Elon Musk -- While He Tweets About Fortnite (popularmechanics.com) 139

The November issue of Popular Mechanics includes a message from its editors that Elon Musk is "under attack," arguing that while some criticisms have merit, "much of it is myopic and small-brained, from sideline observers gleefully salivating at the opportunity to take him down a peg." But what have these stock analysts and pontificators done for humanity? Elon Musk is an engineer at heart, a tinkerer, a problem-solver -- the kind of person Popular Mechanics has always championed -- and the problems he's trying to solve are hard. Really hard. He could find better ways to spend his money, that's for sure. And yet there he is, trying to build gasless cars and build reusable rockets and build tunnels that make traffic go away. For all his faults and unpredictability, we need him out there doing that. We need people who have ideas. We need people who take risks.

We need people who try.

The magazine includes statements from 12 high-profile supporters, including investor Mark Cuban, who writes "When you invest in a company run by an entrepreneur like Elon, you are investing in the mindset and approach that an entrepreneur brings to the table as much as you are valuing the net present value of future cash flows. That is not typical for public companies that are overwhelmingly run by hired CEOs. My advice for Elon is simple: Be yourself. Be true to your mission. Respect your investors. Ignore your critics."

Meanwhile, in a Friday post on Twitter, Musk jokingly claimed that he'd purchased and then deleted the game of Fortnite, posting a doctored Marketwatch article quoting him as saying "I had to save these kids from eternal virginity."

"Had to been done," tweeted Musk, adding "ur welcome".
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Popular Mechanics Defends Elon Musk -- While He Tweets About Fortnite

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  • I fully agree (Score:5, Interesting)

    by fferreres ( 525414 ) on Saturday October 20, 2018 @05:49PM (#57510730)

    I feel exactly that way about Elon Musk. I don't care about his defects shown so far. They are absolutely expected. I'd buy his company stock in small amounts just to stand where I speak. And if any goes bankrupt, I'd gladly share the weight of what I put. But to try to make him step down, feels like s*****d Apple when they fired Jobs for a "stable proven guy"...nothing got invented. Actually, Apple is still riding Jobs' waves and has done very little if nothing to invent anything that will change how we live or work, otehr than what was already started.

    • Yup. We need people like Musk. He might need a better PR person though...

      Also happy to invest in Musk.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Anonymous Coward

      And it's not like he's wrong about Fortnite.

    • Re: (Score:1, Troll)

      by sittingnut ( 88521 )

      you associate, and even equate, steve jobs and apple, with "inventions"? lol.
      -
      musk and companies are indeed like jobs and his, lots of very creative hype to con people and governments in to buying mediocre products.

    • by DogDude ( 805747 )
      I don't care about his defects shown so far.

      He's a world class douche. He called some guy a pedophile. You shouldn't invest in his company or give him money.
      • Re:I fully agree (Score:5, Insightful)

        by JaredOfEuropa ( 526365 ) on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:06PM (#57510984) Journal
        If he makes good, innovative products for which there is a clear demand, and at some point manages to turn a profit, then I should be happy to invest in his companies and let him call other people whatever he wants. I'm not one of those douchebags who thinks just because someone is a public figure they are not allowed to have a temper, or a bad day. I'll take authenticity over carefully groomed but deeply fake media personae any time, even if the person in question is sometimes behaving like an authentic douche.

        With that said, all my money is in real estate...
    • Re:I fully agree (Score:5, Insightful)

      by hey! ( 33014 ) on Saturday October 20, 2018 @08:11PM (#57511156) Homepage Journal

      My wife asked me the other day whether I thought Kanye West might not be right in his head. This is what I said to her: West is a talented, intelligent, driven individual who rose from comfortable but modest beginnings to astonishing levels of professional success. Life experience has not taught him to be humble, hasn't even shown him the need for it.

      There's a word for that, it's called "arrogance", but a lot of people who have it are really extremely capable people. Until fate gets around to humbling them, if it ever does, what reason would they ever have to doubt themselves? Naturally people like that sound a little unhinged; they're living in a different reality than you or me.

      I think Musk fits this mold. If a bus were to hit him tomorrow he'd go down in the history books as the most significant tech entrepreneur of our age; where as Bill Gates made a fortune catching the PC wave, Musk actually drove change in a way that Gates never did. Why wouldn't Musk believe he can do anything just through sheer force of will? If he weren't a bit of an egotist he'd never have tried any of the things he's known for.

      But his overblown reaction to the Thai cave rescue operation not needing him, personally, exposed Musk as, well, kind of a dick. But be honest: you'd probably be a dick too.

      • think Musk fits this mold. If a bus were to hit him tomorrow he'd go down in the history books as the most significant tech entrepreneur of our age; where as Bill Gates made a fortune catching the PC wave, Musk actually drove change in a way that Gates never did.

        Yes, the tax breaks that drove Tesla and Solar City and the shift to commercial services that drove SpaceX have nothing to do with anything. Seriously, Musk caught waves too. He didn't force change, he latched onto circumstance.

    • Jobs would be the first to admit that the firing and subsequent failure at NeXT was a lesson that had to be learned in order to achieve what he did later in life.

      You can't look at the successes of his return to Apple without him going away.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    And stock analysis are supposed to be reliable and infallible.

    But reality has switched things around. And I end up with mutual funds managed by idiots, and there are people who invent big things who are criticized for perceived mistakes that have not even occurred.

  • Shaw. (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday October 20, 2018 @06:12PM (#57510798)

    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man."

        - George Bernard Shaw

  • So what exactly did he buy?

    I feel like this guy jumps on any bandwagon he sees as popular and then tries to capitalize as much as possible from it.

    • Re: (Score:2, Informative)

      by Anonymous Coward

      He bought the joke, put it into a SpaceX rocket, and launched it into LEO above your head.

    • by mentil ( 1748130 )

      I had to read that a couple times to get it. That is, he joked about buying ownership of the IP/studio/control over the game's operation... and then shutting it all down. Fortnite makes so much money he might not actually be able to afford to do that, although if he did the players would go back to Minecraft or PUBG or something. Some kind of "how to not scream racial slurs at strangers 101" workshop would do more for their virginity than shutting down a game, though.

      • For some reason, Forbes wrote an article doing the math. Epic Games is privately held, but figured to be worth somewhere around 8 to 10 billion. So if Musk wanted to liquidate half his Tesla holdings to make a videogame go away he could, but it would be a massive waste of resources.

        I'd rather he use that money to make Twitter go away. He (and everyone else) would actually get some benefit on that investment.

    • You know there is a difference between owning a license to use the software, and owning the software (copyrights), right?

      That difference is, of course, a primary factor in understanding the joke.

  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Saturday October 20, 2018 @07:17PM (#57511004) Journal
    It is an American car company giving run for their money to the Germans. Audi and BMW and MB are beaten in their performance car game.

    He failed to deliver on his promises. True. The goal was so over the top, what he did deliver is way above other car companies delivered.

    He showed what a no compromise electric car can do, how it will drive, how it would feel and how great it would be. That genie is out of the bottle. No body can put it back in. No ICEV can compete with a EV.

    And the party is just starting. The batteries are getting cheaper, energy density is getting higher. While ICE is fully optimized and there is nothing more you could squeeze out of an internal combustion engine.

    In an EV, you can have two or four motors mechanically decoupled and electronically controlled. What such a car can do, no way an ICE can do.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    All my normie roommates who play fortnite incessantly fuck a lot.

  • by Anonymous Coward

    I, for one, think that it is ABSOLUTELY NO SURPRISE some people keep trying hard to discredit & take down Musk/Tesla!

    I, for one, can clearly see that, everytime a Tesla car taken apart (for reverse engineering?), what found is innovation after innovation!

    Tesla cars keep getting highest safety ratings ever & W/O CHEATING!!!
    Why others count as cheating, at least to me, is because all gasoline cars are always tested for safety w/ EMPTY GAS TANK!
    Is that really a realistic test? Traffic accidents in the

    • I, for one, can clearly see that, everytime a Tesla car taken apart (for reverse engineering?), what found is innovation after innovation!

      Design quirk after design quirk. What else would you expect when a bunch of SV Web developers set out to design a car? Some small fraction of whats thrown up at the wall won't slide off.

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  • by 140Mandak262Jamuna ( 970587 ) on Saturday October 20, 2018 @09:39PM (#57511392) Journal
    The traditional car making is a very stable business. All major efficiency breakthroughs have been achieved already. All the manufacturing improvements are mostly done. Prices are stable. Metrics are stable. Power/weight ratio of ICE, MPG vs curb weight, ... all are stable and the improvemens are coming at the rate of a percent of two per year. They are used to 4 years cycles of design. One year of tooling. 5 years from drawing board to production. No unexpected breakthroughs expected in the five years.

    Cell phones, laptops, Tesla are operating where you cant design for today's metrics. You need to predict the processor speed 18 months from now and design the phone. You need to anticipate the bandwidth increase expected in 12 months.

    An EV's most critical metrics are energy density Kg/kWh of the battery and price $/kWh of the battery. Elon, in his famour 2006 "secret" master plan calculated a 7 year half life for these two critical metrics. The energy density will double, and the price wil halve every seven years. Sort of like Moore's law of batteries. Tesla is designing, building and pricing the cars based on that model. In 2012 for the Tesla Roadster, the battery cost was 270 $/kWh. Model 3, battery is 130 $/kWh (Tesla's claim) 140$/kWh Monroe's tear down. It is following the expected path. Tesla says it is going to hit 100 $/kWh sometime in 2019. That is the figure when the EV and ICEV will cost the same off the dealer's lot. Battery + motor cost = engine+transmission+emission control+fuel tank cost.

    The legacy car makers are not used to engine manufacturing cost going down by 50% in 7 years. Nor the weight of the power train falling by 50% between drawing board and production.

    • by sinij ( 911942 )

      Traditional car manufacturing is also over-regulated. A car equivalent to original Beetle could be produced today for a fraction of what even cheapest used car costs and could easily deliver 40MPG and run for decades. Unfortunately, you have restrictive and illogical smog emissions (i.e. making all but impossible to have diesel car), very over-the-top safety requirements, and non-safety features (i.e. backup camera) mandated by the government.

      Electric cars are that much better because they are not

      • All the safety standards, anti lock brakes, backup camera, airbags are mandatory for the EV too. Only break they get is in the emission controls. Because they dont emit pollution where the car is used. You can argue they merely outsource pollution to a distant location. On the other hand utilities are better equipped to handle pollution mitigation and you dont really have lug the anti-pollution devices around in your car.

        We will not give any break and reduction in pollution standards. If ICE can't meet it

        • by sinij ( 911942 )

          We will not give any break and reduction in pollution standards. If ICE can't meet it, it can die.

          This approach is idiotic, considering that emission standards for passenger cars are well into diminishing returns and they are not even near top polluters. More so, additional emission control equipment on cars results in cars that have larger lifetime emissions due to added weight and additional manufacturing.

          It is no big loss. Getting rid of diesel and gasoline vehicles will do wonders top world peace. We will stop pumping a trillion dollars to the middle east. Once the money is gone, they will calm down and sort it out in some fashion among themselves.

          This is just magical thinking on your part. There is absolutely no reason to expect that middle east will become peaceful once petrodollars stop flowing.

          More so, you are not thinking what it would

          • More so, you are not thinking what it would take to switch to all-electric. We will need to completely rebuild power grid, we will have to drastically increase power generation capacity (probably natural gas or coal).

            The base load on the grid is 33% of the peak capacity. The peak usage is around 900 GW. The base load, the lowest usage happens at night between 10 PM and 6 AM. The usage is 300 GW. There is 600 GW of unused capacity available at night. Let us take out the peaker plants that are started and stopped on demand, these gas turbine power plants out. Using high efficiency steam turbines usually fired by coal or natural gas, they have about 400 GW of capacity unused at night. The electric cars are going to be char

            • by sinij ( 911942 )

              We have the grid capacity to charge even if ALL the cars become electric tomorrow.

              Citation required.

              • We have the grid capacity to charge even if ALL the cars become electric tomorrow.

                Citation required.

                He showed his work. Here's [eia.gov] (some of) the basis for the 33% number. The link is for New England only, in 2011, but the numbers only look better for the rest of the country which uses more peak power for air conditioning than New England does, not less.

                The numbers are actually getting dramatically better for available daytime capacity thanks to the ongoing installation of solar panels. The grid is so overpowered now that in two regions (California and New England), wholesale electricity prices go negative [pv-magazine-usa.com]

  • He just tries really hard. :)
  • Talented creative assholes are still assholes.
    • by ooshna ( 1654125 )

      But Musk for the most part seems to be a pretty good guy.

      • Except when he gets butthurt about someone publicly crapping on a dubious,over-complicated scheme to save some trapped kids, and takes to Twitter to levy completely unsubstantiated allegations of pedophilia. Twice.

        • by ooshna ( 1654125 )

          That compared to all the non asshole things he has done really isn't too bad.

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