Huge PS5 Leak Spills a Bunch of Info On Sony's Reveal Event

A PS5 leak posted on 4Chan, which was later reposted on Reddit, spills a bunch of information on the PlayStation 5 reveal event which is expected to take place in February. According to the leak, the PS5 will be unveiled on February 5 at a PlayStation Meeting event for the media. "The console design, controller, UI/home screen, certain features, console specs, talk from third parties/indie publishers, as well as announcements for PS5 exclusives will be shown," says the leaker.

The leak says the PS5 will support backwards compatibility with games from all 5 PlayStation platforms; PS4 accessories will be compatible on the new console as well; and the specs will rival Microsoft's Xbox Series X console. Furthermore, it states that the PS5 will launch worldwide in October 2020, priced at $499 in the U.S. It'll also be launched with several exclusive titles. You can read the full list of details here.

This is so fake

[Sarusa]

Back-compat for ALL Playstation generation games, including PS3? *fffft*

This is a bunch of stuff we already knew plus some wish fulfillment and some random stuff.

And if course it ends with 'Sony will return to E3 for 2020 to discuss more' which we already know is false.

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[Anubis IV]

Ayup. For those who haven’t heard, Sony already confirmed that—just like last year—they will not be attending E3 this year, so the suggestion that more details about backwards compatibility will be discussed “especially” at E3 is patently false. Hell, it tells me that this “leaker” isn’t even aware of Sony’s recent history, since anyone with even a passing awareness of the comings and goings in the industry could read the tea leaves month ago to know tha

A bit of explaination.

[Gravis Zero]

Back-compat for ALL Playstation generation games, including PS3? *fffft*

While technically possible, Sony has a large disincentive to do this. Supporting games Sony already sold costs money to develop, so it would need to be a VERY strong draw. However, Sony could instead simply recompile their recent games for the PS5 platform, upgrade a few graphics and sell the games again as a download. They've already done something like this by selling PSX games that come packaged with an emulator to run them.

Architecture differences.

[DrYak]

Were you under a rock when the $599 PS3 was mocked to hell? They had to remove the PS2 compatibility hardware to lower the price.

Back in the PS3 era:
- architecture between two different generations of console vary vastly (CPU architecture, co-processors, etc.)
- PS3 doesn't have the CPU grunt to do an emulation of a PS2 (obviously, as it's too recent).

So building in the PS2 chipset inside an expensive fat PS3 was about the only possibility to insure backward compatibility.
Ripping out this backward compatibility chipset is an obvious cost cutter, but prevents any backward compatibility.
(Contrast with PS1 which is already emulable on a

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[tlhIngan]

Back in the PS3 era:
- architecture between two different generations of console vary vastly (CPU architecture, co-processors, etc.)
- PS3 doesn't have the CPU grunt to do an emulation of a PS2 (obviously, as it's too recent).

And yet, Microsoft could do it. The Xbox360 emulated the OG Xbox, and the Xbox One could do backwards compatibility with the Xbox360.

Granted both were limited since they were effectively doing HLE which can lead to all sorts of strange issues which basically meant all the games had to be

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[Gravis Zero]

- PS3 doesn't have the CPU grunt to do an emulation of a PS2 (obviously, as it's too recent).

Actually, this is entirely incorrect. Later versions of the PS3 emulated the PS2 but it's compatibility sucked. The problem was never the hardware, it's just that their ability to write code to emulate consoles really sucks. Even the PSX emulation on the PS2 really sucked.

Developing emulation software isn't easy and making it perfect is expensive to develop. Sony prefers to shove things out the door first with a higher price tag and then release cheaper revised hardware and shitty emulation.

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[rldp]

Here is what they are doing: offering the ability to rebuy the games digitally, or stream them on PS Now. Of course, only the select games they have rights to and choose to put on the platform.

Exactly the way it is now on PS4.

People out there whoi think the thing will actually be able to read PSP games off of UMD discs and authenticate Playsation 1 & 2 games on CD will be disapointed.

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[Sarusa]

Playing some PS3 games is one thing - playing all of them glitch-free enough that you can really call it backwards compatible is a huge problem given how defective the PS3 architecture was. Go took a look at the compatibility list for RPCS3 and how many defects there are. It took MS a colossal effort to get so many XB360 games working on the XB1 and that wasn't nearly as hard a problem as this because the XB360 was a much saner design than the PS3.

Sony just has no incentive to write an emulator, test every

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[Sarusa]

I am definitely paying attention to your being completely unable to judge costs, effort required, and rewards.

Fire BeauHD

[Thruen]

This is clearly fake, is posting crap like this under the "too good to be true" dept you trolling us? Isn't this your job? #FireBeauHD

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[The Cynical Critic]

For me the real bullshit part was the $500 pricepoint. No way they're going to squeeze all that expensive hardware, particularly the high-end SSD, into that a pricepoint like that without selling the machines at a decent size loss and in a position like they are in right now they're just going to do that.

The backwards compatibility going back to the first machine isn't even that impressive when it comes down to it. Software-based PS1 emulation is a doddle these days (even the PS3 had it), software-based

backwards compatible

[MrKaos]

I wonder if the network will allow LAN parties to be ressurected, pure internet gaming isn;t as much fun as having a group of friends around for a massive game session on a local router.

Personally I'm looking forward to playing the original SW:Battlefront!

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[Snotnose]

I wonder if the network will allow LAN parties to be ressurected, pure internet gaming isn;t as much fun as having a group of friends around for a massive game session on a local router.

You do realize you're now 30 years older, presumably have a (ex) wife and kids, and even if you don't all your friends do?

I'm old, and one thing I've learned is you can't bring your childhood back, even if you define "childhood" to be "mid 20s".

Re: backwards compatible

[subie]

I'm 52, married my high school sweetheart, 5 kids, 2 grandchildren and I'm still playing dnd once a month with my friends from high school. Maybe you need to learn to live a little. Oh and my kids and I play neverwinter nights enhanced edition over the internet since we all live in different states.

You need to buy some friends

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[MrKaos]

I wonder if the network will allow LAN parties to be ressurected, pure internet gaming isn;t as much fun as having a group of friends around for a massive game session on a local router.

You do realize you're now 30 years older, presumably have a (ex) wife and kids, and even if you don't all your friends do?

Who do you think is trying to get me to game with them? I played GTAV and realized all the new games require a huuuuuge time investment that I simply don't have. I want to get in fast play and then go back to what I was doing.

I'm old, and one thing I've learned is you can't bring your childhood back, even if you define "childhood" to be "mid 20s".

I don't want to bring back my childhood, I just want to access it sometimes and play a game for some fun. I've got grown up toys but sometimes a few beers and weed with some mates playing a game til all hours is the perfect way to blow off steam no matter what age you are.

4chan not allowed?

[niftydude]

How come there are two links to reddit in the summary, but not one link to the original 4chan post? Is 4chan too scary for slashdotters, or does slashdot get revenue for feeding eyeballs to reddit?

Re:4chan not allowed?

[BlacKSacrificE]

Simple. 4chan threads do not last. They bump up to the top of the board on a reply, but (depending on the board) once they hit 300-400 posts they stop bumping and eventually slide off the arse of the thread list into the archive. You could link to the archive, but they disappear after a 7 days as well. Anonymous, ephemeral etc.

Aside from this, I would guess mods over there are deleting any threads relating to the leak on sight, as they tend to do. A quick check of the boards you'd expect to see related chatter on, reveal nothing.

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[Thruen]

It probably has less to do with the mods (they barely bother to take down riskier illegal content, and there are multiple threads discussing it so I'm not sure why you can't find them) and more to do with even 4chan idiots aren't even dumb enough to believe this leak is real, someone even posted an image of the exact same leak from weeks ago. Now there's a new 4chan post trying to explain away all the information that was provably false, such as Sony attending E3 this year (they are not), couldn't be more o

Erm

[ChoGGi]

> Backwards compatibility is such a major feature, that games from all 5 PlayStation platforms (PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3 and PS4),

How would they get decent performance emulating the PS3 with it's 8? cell processors? PCSX2 still only does a "decent" emulation of the PS2.

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[DontBeAMoran]

Maybe it has something to do with Sony having access to the complete datasheets and specifications of all their own consoles?

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[ElectronicSpider]

Sony with access to datasheets and the engineers who designed the PS2 couldn't get the PS3 to be compatible with the PS2 without having to practically put an entire PS2 inside.

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[DontBeAMoran]

Maybe it was limited by what the PS3 hardware could do.

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[ElectronicSpider]

IIRC it was because of the processor architecture, that's why I'm very skeptical about the PS3 retrocompatibility

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[DontBeAMoran]

It's not about being able to emulate the previous generation of hardware (CPU architecture or not), it's about being able to emulate the previous generation of hardware in real-time.

Maybe the PS3 wasn't powerful enough to emulate the PS2 in real-time, and maybe the PS4 also wasn't powerful enough to emulate the PS3 in real-time.

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[MtHuurne]

For the PlayStation Classic, they used an open source emulator instead of writing their own. And the PS1 is a way simpler beast than the PS3.

If this "leak" is true at all (the E3 mismatch makes it very suspicious), I think it's more likely they have a data center with a rack of PS3 mainboards and plan to stream from that than that they have a well-performing PS3 emulator.

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[thereddaikon]

The cell isn't a true multicore processor. Its more like a regular PPC chip with 8 FPUs attached to it. If AMD could get sued over calling Bulldozer multicore and lose then Cell definitely isn't multicore.

There would definitely be some issues in emulating all of this but modern cpus are much faster than back then and since they are using a Zen derived APU for the PS5 it may actually have more real cpu threads than the Cell has SPEs. In that case you can brute force it.

If you believe this...

[sizzlinkitty]

let me tell you about a fantastic opportunity to own a piece of the moon today! Seriously, don't believe everything you read on the internet.

Backward compatible?

[StikyPad]

So that means it runs Linux?

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[ElectronicSpider]

Probably a custom OS based on FreeBSD again.

Know a fake article when I see one

[theCioroRedittor]

>More details about backwards compatiblty will be discussed at a later date, especially at E3 Sony will not attend E3....