Microsoft's Latest Windows 10 Test Builds Includes Promised x64 Arm Emulation (zdnet.com) 30
Microsoft has made available two different Windows 10 test builds today, one of which includes the promised x64 app emulation for Arm, among other features. ZDNet reports: The RS_Prerelease build 21277 -- which ultimately is expected to be designated as the "Cobalt" branch -- includes the features Microsoft had previously been testing but removed at the end of October. This includes the updated emoji picker, redesigned touch keyboard, voice typing, theme-aware splash screens and more. It also provides the aforementioned Arm emulation support. Currently, Windows on Arm natively supports Arm apps, including ARM64 versions. But so far, only 32-bit Intel (x86) apps are supported in emulation. This lack of x64 emulation has limited the number of apps that can run on Windows on Arm devices, since apps that are 64-bit only have only been available on Windows on Arm (WoA) devices if and when developers created native versions of them. As of now, these x64 Arm apps also can run in emulation. More details on the x64 Arm emulation preview functionality are in this Microsoft post.
... includes x64 emulation on Arm64 (Score:5, Insightful)
There. Fixed it for you.
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Welcome to the 21st century where, like it or not, emoji's are a significant part of human communication over the internet.
Re:Lol emoji updates on the same page as a major f (Score:4, Insightful)
Apple does the exact same thing. And, even though it annoys the heck out of me, I also recognize that these platforms are fairly mature, feature-wise - so there's just not a whole lot of new and useful functionality they can add. So they resort to padding out the "new features" list by including (what in my mind counts as) trivial stuff, such as new emoji.
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Yep, and where are the real emojis? They're all "LOL" and happy.
Where's the emoji for "fuck off" or "screw you"?
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"Reversed hand with middle finger extended"
ðY-
Re:we're long past the point of useful emoji updat (Score:4, Informative)
and of course, Slashdot hates unicode.. so..
x1F595
Re: we're long past the point of useful emoji upda (Score:2)
Still wonder when theyâ(TM)ll get with the program? Probably just too hard for them, since this is all written in Perl?
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It's got nothing to do with being written in Perl, and everything to do with their general incompetence. Perl can handle Unicode. They just break the site all the time while making apparently trivial changes. Meanwhile, mobile fucking sucks all the rocks available for sucking. It's missing half the features of the classic interface, or more! What a shit-show.
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It's got nothing to do with being written in Perl, and everything to do with their general incompetence. Perl can handle Unicode. They just break the site all the time while making apparently trivial changes. Meanwhile, mobile fucking sucks all the rocks available for sucking. It's missing half the features of the classic interface, or more! What a shit-show.
Exactly!
It doesn't even have a Preview, FFS!!!
Slashdot's webcoders have got to be the most incompetent on the planet. Seriously.
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Slashdot used to support Unicode many moons ago. The problem was that
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Also it was not unheard of to place links to lookalike domains that use Cyrillic characters that are indistinguishable from Latin script. I do think that part of the motivation in disabling Unicode support was to make it difficult to converse in any language other than English, however.
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The problem is not implementing Unicode, but to make it troll-proof.
Slashdot used to support Unicode many moons ago. The problem was that /. trolls are too smart and used Unicode to write backwards, erased the post score or user id, and replaced those with fake values.
Well, they can still add validation and filters. Isn’t the strength of Perl meant to be its regular expressions? It is so annoying to see common characters being misinterpreted, with one of the most common ones being the curly quotes.
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Not really, the filesystem area still is in windows and linux a mess and osx about 80% there where it should be.
Problem is this stuff is rather unsexy but would help a lot!
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Yeah, that would matter to you and to me - but unfortunately we're a much smaller group than people who care about the latest emoji.
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It's not really emoji support, it's Unicode support. They keep adding emoji to Unicode, as well as a bunch of other characters for languages they previously screwed up. Emoji are just the most visible part so are the ones that leap out, but TFA does actually mention that it's a Unicode update.
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I'm not trying to be a turd, but it made me chuckle to see your sig. on a post that starts with "Welcome to the 21st century" =)
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I guess I missed something in the summary. Where exactly does it say that the emoji picker and the Arm x64 emulator are on par. All the summary says is that the emulator and the emoji picker are both included in the same update. There is nothing there that equates them as being equally relevant.
Since you didn't mention that "redesigned touch keyboard, voice typing, theme-aware splash screens" are also included in the update I guess I should assume that you find them equally as important as the Arm x64 emula
Curious how bad the performance is (Score:3)
While exagear's proprietary x86 emulation on ARM (which powers exagear desktop windows emulator), is able to get ~"core 2 performance" on an older samsung galaxy S5, that is for 32bits only.. and a pretty high penalty for the emulation.
I am curious how bad the penalty for 64bit emulation will be.
If Bill Gates and Balmer ... (Score:2)
... hadn't sold most of MIcrosofts shares in Apple (which would apparently be worth $120 * 10^9) today ,they could probably have persuaded Cook to use the M1 chip in their own tablets.
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Bill Gates doesn't give a shit, though. He's actually worth more personally now than he was since he started "giving" "his" money "away", and that's not counting the funds stored tax-free in his Foundation, which he is in ultimate control over (which is why he was able to rebuild his fortune so rapidly — directed investment.)
This is only necessary ... (Score:1)
because MS Windows is so wedded to the Intel architecture that the concept of recompiling for a different architecture is alien to Microsoft developers. This is not an issue in the Unix/Linux world where different repositories for different architectures is the norm and developers do not bat an eyelid. Oh, well - maybe MS will catch up with *nix one day.
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That was a while ago, but you can also see from people recompiling stuff for the new macOS ARM machines (which are, after all, Unix) and finding the same issues.
Re:This is only necessary ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Yes: you do get people who write stuff without thought of portability, but that is very much the exception rather than the rule. Don't get me wrong: writing code that is portable between CPU architectures takes discipline: look at compiler warnings; take care on int sizes; worry about byte ordering; ... but you get used to it and it becomes easier - I have been doing it for ~ 35 years. There are similar problems making code portable between different *nix and other operating systems - but people do it often.
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But I'm working with huge load of technical debt where the orginal authors had no concept of portability, not just porting to new machines but portability of data across a network. And the bizarre thing is they already migrated some of the code from a different architecture. A lot of this is a mixture of self-taught programmers, never having to grow up in a Unix world where portability is a concern even at the application layer, and the startup model of getting code to work now instead of worrying about t
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x86-64 (Score:5, Informative)
The designation is x86-64. x64 is a MS-ism.
AMD64 was the original designation of AMD's 64-bit chip designed to be x86 compatible. EM64T is Intel's brand designed to be AMD64 compatible. x86-64 is the generic name for AMD64 compatible chips.
x64 is only used by Microsoft and should be avoided by technically literate writers when talking about AMD64 compatible chips.