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Neuralink Releases Videos of Monkey Playing Pong With Its Brain 25

Rei writes: Having moved from pigs to rhesus macaques in pursuit of the goal of hopefully beginning human trials by the end of the year, Neuralink has continued their recruitment drive with a pair of videos showing their latest progress. In the first video, they show how they train the macaque to control a joystick with its mind, and how after associating the neural signals with intent, they can disconnect the joystick and the macaque continues to be able to operate the training interface solely through Neuralink. They then switch it over to controlling a cursor in Pong (picture-in-picture showing synapses here). Even with the game set to high speed and with the distraction of his banana-milkshake reward, the macaque puts out an impressive gaming performance.

Musk expects the first commercial product to enable a paralyzed person to interact with a smartphone faster than a healthy person using their thumbs. ["Later versions will be able to shunt signals from Neuralinks in brain to Neuralinks in body motor/sensory neuron clusters, thus enabling, for example, paraplegics to walk again," adds Musk. "The device is implanted flush with skull & charges wirelessly, so you look & feel totally normal."]
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Neuralink Releases Videos of Monkey Playing Pong With Its Brain

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  • by rmdingler ( 1955220 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @05:23PM (#61256892) Journal

    Gives new meaning to the phrase, Monkey see, Monkey do.

    • Gives new meaning to the phrase, Monkey see, Monkey do.

      Yeah, definitely, though according to researchers in the field this has been done before:

      "Andrew Jackson, a neuroscience expert who is a professor at Newcastle University, told Insider that getting primates to control video games via neural interfaces was not new – comparable demonstrations were done in 2002 – but said it was a good test of the tech." link [businessinsider.com.au]

      It sounds like the big advance is the packaging into a wireless system without big cables coming out of the monkey's head, so less exciti

      • by Rei ( 128717 )

        It's also about not driving a veritable meat tenderizer [google.is] into the brain. Utah Array is a nasty piece of work. It just gets jabbed in, with (proportionally) giant pins, and destroys any blood vessels along the way, which of course triggers an immune response in the process (plus it's only one sensor per pin). Each individual neuralink thread is vastly smaller, contains multiple sensors per thread, and is automatically targeted to avoid blood vessels. For a size comparison, here's a Utah Array next to a pen [fdncms.com]

    • Im having weird Futurama flashbacks of the heads in jars with brain controlled little limbs.
    • I would expect that playing pong with one's brain would instantly cause a concussion and terrible spasms, and probably death.

      • I would expect that playing pong with one's brain would instantly cause a concussion and terrible spasms, and probably death.

        I can only state confidently there was a nonzero percentage of tween- and teenagers in the 70's who left their 1st pong game, mind blown.

        After that, waiting a half hour for your turn to take your quarter off the game and play Space Invaders almost seemed reasonable.

    • hm , whaddya know, monkeys can play pong ...
      after pavlovs dog now elons monkey - gathering data on translated alphawaves and electrical brain pulses seems to be the last barrier , as hella-cool as it is, who are the thought police so a bit more advanced now has you scanned as you enter the airport or the bus to see if you havent had any bad thoughts. "bad thoughts" defined, patented and copyrighted, trademarked and trolled by Fasc inc. Corporation. (but ofcourse they wont do that, the chosen one very like
      • Cynically, it's clear to me at this point that any great leaps forward that threaten to make life better for our species might/must be perverted by those with designs on being our overlords.

        We'll likely overcome them... you know how I know? Because, if we don't, there's a thousand plausible dystopian futures awaiting us.

  • The ratio of risk vs reward on this is extremely bad... an interface to your brain is going to be a two way street to some degree, and frankly I don't think it is even close to worth the risk.
    • The ratio of risk vs reward on this is extremely bad... frankly I don't think it is even close to worth the risk.

      That's your opinion. A quadriplegic may see things differently.

    • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

      by mark-t ( 151149 )

      Nobody's asking you to sign up.

      But the day will eventually come (probably not in our lifetime) when people who are not so wired up are perceived as being as disadvantaged as people who lack any means of accessing the internet from their home are today.

    • Why two way? That does not make sense. The neurons are sensed and the data is wireless to the computer. Why does the brain need a receiver too? That is like saying that fact I can input to a computer using a keyboard, that the computer must be able to control me back. As for two way communication, don't use software that is not open sourced and can be examined. Or demand interfaces/hardware that lets you can control what data is sent back to you.
  • by ffkom ( 3519199 ) on Friday April 09, 2021 @07:09PM (#61257130)
    ... guessed upon moderately frequent. It's either "joystick up" or "joystick down". Guessed from electrical signals from an animal that can fully operate its arms. Consider me not impressed, that kind of information could have been extracted from motor-neurons everywhere between the brain and the arm, with pretty conventional electronics.
    • Joystick Up
      Joystick Down
      Joystick Neutral
      Joystick Right
      Joystick Left

      That's at least 3 bits of information.

      • There's no left right joystick in Pong, an analog rotary control is used. So maybe a rotary encoder if you want to go digital, and a few extra bits would be nice to track control acceleration. Have you played Pong?
        • Look at the video, before playing pong the monkey repeatedly puts a ball in a box, which upon success materialises elsewhere. From there it's clear the monkey does 4 or even eight (all 4 diagonals) directions.
  • I was expecting to see a monkey with its brain on a table bouncing it from paddle to paddle. But I guess it using its brain is just as good...sigh.

  • Maybe it's urban legend, but I thought monkeys ate bananas from the other end, maybe it's a telepathic alien that just looks like a monkey
  • when the time comes I'll pass.
  • How many monkeys were killed or suffered brain damage before they got this one to work? As cool as the science is, Iâ(TM)m a little disturbed no one else is asking this question. Helping people regain some part of their lives is a long way off monkeys playing pong.
    • Humanity is a torrent of death for anyone not defined as fully human.

      That includes abortion of fetuses with brain activity who scream as they are torn to bits, the mashing and pulping of 4-6 billion (yes, not million, but billion) male chickens every year, the medical experimentation with monkeys, and eissection of animals with human neurons inserted into their brains.

      The last part is an interesting one, and we'll see human-animal brain-hybrids be used and pulped to an increasing degree.

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