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Microsoft Has Discontinued All Xbox One Consoles (theverge.com) 60

Posted by msmash from the end-of-road dept.
Microsoft has stopped manufacturing all Xbox One consoles. The software giant originally discontinued the Xbox One X and digital Xbox One S ahead of the Xbox Series X launch, then quietly stopped manufacturing the Xbox One S at the end of 2020, leaving retailers to sell out their remaining stock. From a report: "To focus on production of Xbox Series X / S, we stopped production for all Xbox One consoles by the end of 2020," says Cindy Walker, senior director of Xbox console product marketing, in a statement to The Verge. Microsoft's confirmation comes just as a Bloomberg report suggested Sony had planned to end PS4 production at the end of 2021, but that the company will now manufacture around a million PS4 consoles in 2022. Sony has confirmed PS4 production is still ongoing, amid struggles by both Microsoft and Sony to meet demand for their latest Xbox Series X and PS5 consoles.
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  • Unless you have money to burn, get Xbox Series S (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Echoez ( 562950 ) * on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:40PM (#62169937)

    We got one here for Christmas, and it's been great. I'm sure there are some features of the Xbox Series X that maybe we're missing, but even on our 4K TV, it looks and performs amazingly. It's small, fast, quiet. Games start and/or resume super quickly. And it was available! For $300! Who knows what we're missing, but all we play here is Madden, Halo Infinite and Fortnite, and it's amazing on our 55" TV.

    I don't know if there is a place for continuing to make Xbox One in the current market. The Series S is essentially that.

    • The main reason to keep making the Xbox One would be availability as the Series S and X are hard to acquire. But you are correct that unlike the PS5 and PS4, there is overlap in the technical capabilities of the Xbox One and Series S

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Luthair ( 847766 )
        Is the sole issue constraining supply access to wafers for the SoCs? My understanding from following a couple EE podcasts is that they're having issues with most parts, so if its general parts availability then putting them in legacy designs instead of saving them for a current one seems pointless.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by edwdig ( 47888 )

          While the SoCs are a large part of the supply issues, there are also supply issues with a bunch of smaller chips that are used to drive things like the HDMI and USB ports.

          On Sony's side, those components are different in the PS4 and the PS5, so continuing to make PS4s is a viable option.

          The Xbox One had a hardware revision late in its life when they released the Xbox One S revision with no disc drive. I believe that version shares many of the smaller chips with the Xbox Series devices. The Xbox One S All Di

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by Kaenneth ( 82978 )

            so 'One S' and 'Series S' are different hardware?

          • Except for the niche of playing movies on disc! When I got my Xbox One S it was primarily for the purpose of playing 4K discs, though somebody else in the house has taken to using it for gaming.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

        The main reason to keep making the Xbox One would be availability as the Series S and X are hard to acquire. But you are correct that unlike the PS5 and PS4, there is overlap in the technical capabilities of the Xbox One and Series S

        The Series S is much more readily available - I've seen plenty of stores have Series S in stock and ready to buy, including the big ones like Walmart and such.

        The only advantage the Xbox One had over the Series S is the optical drive, which may be a big deal. However, the SSD in

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by teg ( 97890 )

        The main reason to keep making the Xbox One would be availability as the Series S and X are hard to acquire. But you are correct that unlike the PS5 and PS4, there is overlap in the technical capabilities of the Xbox One and Series S

        If I wanted one, I could go out tomorrow morning and buy a Series S here in Norway. It's available in stores, and I think it has mostly been available since launch, so it's easy to acquire.

        Series X is harder to get - it was easy to order before launch, directly from MS - so I got one a day after launch. It's also been possible to buy one later.

        PS5 was impossible to preorder, and I'm still on a waiting list more than a year after launch.

    • Define amazing looks and performance? Everything I hear about every console, back up by numbers and screenshots I saw is that the graphics are sub-par, the frame-rate is low, typically going no higher than 30 f/s, and the resolution is typically something akin to 1280p×720p. — Most importantly on top of that the field of view is narrow to render less, and even with that the performance is so bad, simply because it has to be fit into a very compact form factor for a portable machine, that is not c

      • extremely narrow field of view
        What is with this trend. They always prevent you from changing it on PC ports and it drives me insane.

        • The game was obviously not originally designed and tested with it in mind. It's entirely possible that many parts of the level will show interesting clipping and other strange things with a decent field of view.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

          "Correct" FOV depends on your distance from display device and size of display device. In case of consoles, it's expected that you sit much further away from display device. So consoles should have a narrower FOV than PC games.

          That said, most people prefer in game performance over actually correct FOV, and in most games being able to see more of the game world helps to be better at the game. So many, including myself prefer wider FOV than what would be correct for distance and size of screen. Personally I u

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Echoez ( 562950 ) *

        So again, my experiences are limited to Halo Infinite, Madden 22 and Fortnite. I can say that Fortnite has the best graphics I've seen (compared to my mid-range PC and Nintendo Switch). Halo and Madden run super smooth, and look great on my TCL 55" 4k TV. Is it missing whatever HDR nonsense? Is it 240hz refresh rate or whatever? I have no idea.

        But it's a great machine. Again, maybe if you have the top of the line 4K TV, there are some features you're missing out on by not getting an Xbox Series X. B

        • I actually misread. Or rather I did not read the title and simply the comment and thought you had bought an XBox One and said it's performance was still fine.

          I haven't yet observed the performance of the newest generation, but I remain sceptical for the argument I gave: if decent performance could fit into a machine so small and light, computers would be quite a bit more powerful. I think the Series X will also have poor performance.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by Pascoea ( 968200 )
          My personal experience, the XBone X was a significant upgrade, but I was coming from the original xbox one. As far as I can tell, the S can't do native 4k. Bumping from 1080 to 4K on Outerworlds made a huge difference.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        > Define amazing looks and performance? Everything I hear about every console, back up by numbers and screenshots I saw is that the graphics are sub-par, the frame-rate is low, typically going no higher than 30 f/s, and the resolution is typically something akin to 1280pÃ--720p

        Well, that's the downside of listening to people who don't know what they're talking about. If you do, and that's all you listen to, then you also won't know what you're talking about.

        Look, I play almost exclusively on PC nowa

        • 1) The hardware is subsidised, they make their money back on games and services like Xbox Live Gold / Game Pass and PS+.

          2) Consoles have always had the advantage that they're a known quantity, the hardware is relatively fixed, or at least in recent generations slightly more varied, but still a very small number of configuration combinations. This makes them much easier to optimise for than you ever could with the infinite combinations of PC hardware; this allows them to punch above their weight in terms of graphical output - console games can simply be better optimised with significantly less effort meaning more time to optimise in the first place.

          I mentioned these arguments, and even with all that I still don't see it possible, and last generation it wasn't the case either: Consoles remained lacking behind general purpose computers in performance heavily last generation, and I see no reason why this generation would be different. — Optiomization would have to be considerable to be able to overcome a unit that is so small and light.

          As I said in another post, I misread and thought he was talking about the XboX One, and I haven't yet seen the Ser

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by Luthair ( 847766 )
      I wonder whether Microsoft would be better off redirecting some of the wafers to Series S over Series X. Presumably the S SoC is quite a bit smaller than the X SoC, so they might be able to put more on shelves making them easier to find than the Playstation 5

    • I got one for my kids this Christmas. Great hardware. Setting up the accounts made me want to throw it through a window.

      My email. New Microsoft account. New XBox account. New email account for kids. New Microsoft account for kids. New Xbox account for kids. Cashed in the Rocket League install on the kids account, but they can't play online. Can't use Fortnite on their account. Have to install it on mine. But now Rocket League won't work on my account because I installed it on their account. So n

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by kackle ( 910159 )

        Last console I had was an Atari 2600. It just worked.

        You know, there's an Atari 5200, now.

        I was reminded of that fact when a friend, who was cleaning house, just gave me one after realizing it wasn't going to work on his newer TV.

        • I was reminded of that fact when a friend, who was cleaning house, just gave me one after realizing it wasn't going to work on his newer TV.

          You can get composite-to-HDMI converters. There's nothing like 160x192 resolution on a 75" flatscreen.

          (No, kids, that's not an icon. It was the entire screen.)

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by kackle ( 910159 )

            You can get composite-to-HDMI converters. There's nothing like 160x192 resolution on a 75" flatscreen.

            I assume he's aware, he probably didn't want to mess with it.

            (No, kids, that's not an icon. It was the entire screen.)

            Hahaha, true. The blocky dragons from "Adventure" have got to look pretty cool, though.

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward

        What are you blathering on about?

        > My email. New Microsoft account. New XBox account. New email account for kids. New Microsoft account for kids. New Xbox account for kids.

        You need a Microsoft account only, that is your Xbox account. Yes, you need an e-mail for a Microsoft account, just like any online account, if you didn't have an e-mail account already, well, that's just a bit weird. You seem to be inventing an issue here.

        > Cashed in the Rocket League install on the kids account, but they can't pla

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by impos ( 805511 )

        I'm pretty sure Rocket League went free to play like 2 years ago, not sure what 'cashed in the Rocket League install' means.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by e3m4n ( 947977 )
      it appears that the S live vs the X line lacks an optical drive. Ive always been a playstation person, so if its anything like the digital only PS5 I would not go that route. I'll start by saying I am not such an avid gamer I have to have every game when it releases. My game play is low enough that a single game can take me a couple months or more to play it to completion of every task and quest. So I pick up a lot of games that are older and sell for $20 to $30. But if you go into the playstation store, th
    • For some reason I thought they already had discontinued it; I looked into it briefly because I thought I wanted another 4k blu ray player. I knew the Series X was impossible to get and the S had no optical drive, but couldn't find any One S for sale. Ultimately I decided to just move the One S I had to the other TV instead of buying any more hardware.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by leonbev ( 111395 )

      The one problem with the XBox Series S is the lack of storage. You can burn through 512 GB pretty quickly if you're a Game Pass customer, and those SSD storage upgrades are expensive.

    • It's all baffling to me. I sort of understand Playstation, it has models 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. I know which is older and newer easily. But I can't tell what the hell is going on with Xbox. Logically, XBox One sounds like Xbox 1 so it must have been the first model right? No? Well, at least it was the second one though, right? No? The third Xbox is Xbox one??? Ok, Xbox S and X are just variants of the Xbox that has no suffix, right? No, they're two types of fourth gen Xbox? Wait, the's an XBox One S an

      • Whoever named the last two gens need their nuts ripped off.

        • Well, Xbox 360 was badly named too, I left that off the list. But this is Microsoft, it's to be expected. In what order does Windows Vista and Windows ME fit in the list, and why the switch to year number for Windows 2000 and then abandoned within a single release? And declaring Windows 10 as the last version number ever was also short sighted. Sure, the Playstation numbering is boring but it works. Microsoft tries to spice things up and then people wonder why there is hot sauce on their ice cream.

    • Series S loses out to the One X on a lot of games.

      https://youtu.be/7Mq27aA5fL0 [youtu.be]

  • New for Nerds?

    Stuff that doesn't matter....

    • Re:What? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by tgeek ( 941867 ) on Thursday January 13, 2022 @12:57PM (#62169985)

      New for Nerds?

      Stuff that doesn't matter....

      If you believe news regarding a popular video game console's availability doesn't qualify as "news for nerds" you may want to reconsider your definition of "nerd". It may not be matching everybody else's definition . . .

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by shanen ( 462549 )

        Considering the brevity and the vacuous Subject, it must have been a bid for FP. Better than a typical AC FP in that it might affect the reputation of the user name? Or not so much?

        However I have to acknowledge that the topic doesn't interest me much. Almost a philosophical question for me these days, but "How can I minimize my interactions with Microsoft?" is not an approach that leads me towards much curiosity about Microsoft's hardware. Someone asked me the other day about Windows 11 in the educational c

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by thsths ( 31372 )

      Stop the press, they stopped making the XBox One. *

      * in 2020

      Not even news in any sense of the word.

      • The news here is that they stopped production in 2020 and no one found out until 2022 when they finally mentioned that they had done so. Given that Sony is scaling PS4 production back up to deal with ongoing demand, it's rather telling that Microsoft was able to stop Xbox One production over a year ago without anyone noticing the difference. The fact that they've apparently had inventory that they've been working to sell through for the last two years, and that they even went so far as to stop production du

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by teg ( 97890 )

          The news here is that they stopped production in 2020 and no one found out until 2022 when they finally mentioned that they had done so. Given that Sony is scaling PS4 production back up to deal with ongoing demand, it's rather telling that Microsoft was able to stop Xbox One production over a year ago without anyone noticing the difference. The fact that they've apparently had inventory that they've been working to sell through for the last two years, and that they even went so far as to stop production during a worldwide event that was driving massive sales numbers for competing consoles, provides an indication of just how dramatically they must have overestimated demand for their console.

          Or rather, that given the positioning and price of the Series S - why would anyone care about the Xbox One, unless the S was impossible to get?

  • Can I go to Dell and order a new 486 desktop PC? Or a Motorola CPU based Mac from Apple?
    Is there people who may have legit reasons to get such items, yes they are.
    However not enough to justify the cost and expense of having a separate manufacturing line, or some sort of small batch delivery system.

    The Xbox one has market saturation, those who didn't get one yet, probably don't want one, and if they are in the market for a console the next X Box, if they are waiting for further price cuts, Microsoft isn't go

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by e3m4n ( 947977 )
      thats always a valid strategy. With exception for this recently weird supply chain issue and high demand, prices would be decent. However I noticed around Xmas the price of used PS4 Slims and Pros came within the $50 range of a new PS5 (albeit no one can actually get one without some serious effort or paying through the nose) . Had enough PS5 been around that they sit on shelves, right after Xmas you could have expected to see an abundance hitting gamestop and local thrift papers in the price range of $200-

    • I possibly wouldn't mind one, if it was very cheap and had no subscription. And old game that is fun is still a fun game. Sitting back on the couch to play Skyrim or Fallout would be fine. Or some effective way to just project from the computer upstairs to the tv downstairs with a box by the tv to plug accessories into (I don't want battery powered controllers or keyboards, ever).

  • I miss Rock Band. Nobody seems to be making instruments any more, so drums and guitars are fantastically expensive. $380 for a plastic guitar on Amazon, guitar and drum kits (secondhand used!) for $1000 or more.

    They continue to sell and make the software but I wish I could get the whole shebang.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by antdude ( 79039 )

      Did that fad die down? Is Guitar Hero still popular?

      • Guitar Hero was discontinued years ago and no new DLC is being released. Officially it's on hiatus, but it's been in that state for years. The online servers for all platforms except Xbox 360 have been shut down, so you can't do any online play and there is no access to DLC that isn't already downloaded.

        Rock Band 4 is still semi-alive; you can buy a new copy of the game and new DLC gets released. (That's the version that runs on current consoles.) But the INSTRUMENTS for it are all unavailable so there isn'

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by antdude ( 79039 )

          Wow, that's sad. I guess their popularities died down compared to Just Dance. :(

          • The higher cost of entry is likely a factor. All you need to buy for Just Dance is the game. For Rock Band you also have to buy at least one instrument, and many people who get the game will want more. Even when they were readily available new, it made the minimum price of entry $100 or so, and over $200 if you wanted all the instruments.

  • I'm not surprised Sony would keep making the PS4 after that news article showing the fully automated assembly line for it.

    Barely a human hand touches them aside from the guy loading boards and the guy at the end putting them in boxes. As long as they can get CPUs, they can keep churning them out for what I imagine it's VERY low marginal cost.

  • Someone needs fired and kicked in the nuts (Score:3)

    by ThurstonMoore ( 605470 ) on Thursday January 13, 2022 @05:47PM (#62170891)

    The person who named the last two generations of MS consoles needs fired and kicked in the nuts. They're the most confusingly named products ever.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Megane ( 129182 )
      They've been confusingly named since the second one. Who decided it made any sense to go from Xbox to Xbox 360 to Xbox One? It's annoying enough to retro people that the original now has to be called "OG" (original generation) to distinguish it from the "X-bone". However it is true that they've gotten worse since then.
  • Sequential numbers aren't broken

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