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Halo 2 Goes Gold 359

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schmiddy writes "This just in -- Halo 2 has officially gone gold as of today. Bungie has confirmed the story with an announcement on their front page. Trailers and such available here ."
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  • H.L. 2 (Score:2, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward
    I guess I'm the only who read this as H.L. 2 announced gold :)

  • Better update my mtach.com profile (Score:5, Funny)

    by aimless ( 311570 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:03PM (#10496582)
    won't have any time for the GF soon...

    • Re:Better update my mtach.com profile (Score:4, Funny)

      by pbranes ( 565105 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:06PM (#10496626)
      It is about time halo2 came out - it has been 3 long years. I still play halo 1 on pc to this day. The servers are always full of people and the graphics still great. If you had asked me a couple of years ago, I would never have believed that halo 2 would come out before half life 2. :-)

      • Re:Better update my mtach.com profile (Score:5, Interesting)

        by igrp ( 732252 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:31PM (#10496832)
        This reminds me of a little anecdote: I have a friend who is an IT lawyer. We've been friends since college days. Real nice guy. Married, two kids. You could make a Martha Stewart-style TV movie about them.

        Christmas two years ago, I gave his son a copy of Halo 1 (after checking with my friend to see if he was okay with his son playing a FPS). He (his son) was excited as hell.

        After New Years, they invited my SO & myself over to their house for dinner. We show up and find my friend and his son in the living room in front of the big screen, engaged in a Halo CTF match.

        Imagine, seeing a middle aged guy who had shown absolutely zero interest in gaming before playing with his 12-year-old son. And you really couldn't tell who was more excited. Don't get me wrong.

        Before that, he would have just shrugged and muttered something about kids, violence and video games had he been approached by his son about playing a multiplayer game. He really had absolutely no interest in games whatsoever. But for some reason, he found Halo compelling enough to try it out.

        Long story short, the guys (me & him & his son) ended up playing Halo that night while the girls (his wife, my girlfriend and my friend's daughter) laughed at us.

        I usually don't pay too much attention to "the mainstream". But that's exactly what I like about Halo - diversity. It's just a fun game. It's still, even after all this time, fun to pick up the controllers, kick back and play (and this isn't just about replay value; it's about being able to just sit down and have fun with your friends).

        • Re:Better update my mtach.com profile (Score:5, Funny)

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, 2004 @05:10PM (#10497129)
          I have a friend who is an IT lawyer. ... Real nice guy.

          Whoa, could you slow down a bit? I think that you just lost most of us.

        • XBConnect and Aquaduct for Multiplayer (Score:5, Informative)

          by Caseyscrib ( 728790 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @05:43PM (#10497430)
          I usually don't pay too much attention to "the mainstream". But that's exactly what I like about Halo - diversity. It's just a fun game. It's still, even after all this time, fun to pick up the controllers, kick back and play (and this isn't just about replay value; it's about being able to just sit down and have fun with your friends).

          I completely agree with you. I still find myself playing co-op missions or against each other in TS or CTF. Its one of those games that just rocks in every aspect and never gets old, whether you're playing by yourself or against people.

          I'm sure just about everyone on slashdot knows and agrees with this, but I would highly recommend XBConnect [xbconnect.com] to everyone who owns an XBox and PC (Aquaduct [postpose.com] for Mac users). It tricks your Xbox into thinking players around the world are on your LAN so you can play against them in halo system link mode (or a range of other games). Its similar to XBox Live but free.

          • Re:XBConnect and Aquaduct for Multiplayer (Score:5, Informative)

            by techSage ( 716096 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @06:19PM (#10497775)
            The one pro for XBConnect is the number of Halo players on there, but for a better experience (faster, cleaner UI, support for clans and ladders, and packet capturing written from the ground up for better performance with gaming packets vs. WinPCap that XBC and other use), try out XLink [teamxlink.co.uk]. A version with the new packet capture will be out 10/16 and is supposed to be about 10 times better than the version with WinPCap.

            XLink is available for Windows, Linux on 10/16 and Mac OSX shortly thereafter.

            XLink also works with PS2 and GameCube games that support LAN play. Read more about that at my tech blog [sagetechnology.com].
        • Definitely agree with the diversity. Halo's semi-comic approach in it's violence doesn't turn off the casual or never before gamer. I find girls are a lot more likely to play this game due to it's infamy and lack of "disgusting guts". A quick learning curve allows them to just jump in and have fun with the guys.
        • I have just spent this night playing Xbox with my flatmate. It's brilliant, aided by alcohol it becomes more so. We decided to do co-op on legendary, and take a shot every time we died- enough for a shot every couple of minutes we thought.

          Well it ended up being a shot every 10 or so the first hour... every 5 or so the second and then we started to get too drunk to play and he went to bed and I came here. This is getting modded Offtopic isn't it?

          Anyway, it's nice to be able to sit down and just play and

    • Uh-huh (Score:5, Funny)

      by paranode ( 671698 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:08PM (#10496654)
      won't have any time for the GF soon...

      GF, eh? I suppose you have a copy of Duke Nukem Forever as well?

  • Just for XBOX! (Score:2, Informative)

    by phaetonic ( 621542 ) *
    I just spent 5 minutes figuring out if Halo 2 will sold on Nov 9th for the PC Platform, and it's not. Looks like UT2K4 is still going to feed my additiction.

    • Re:Just for XBOX! (Score:2, Insightful)

      by SilentChris ( 452960 )
      Duh! Honestly, this is going to sound a like a troll, but it really isn't: how can you be an UT2K4 fan (which includes some diehard FPS-lovers like myself) and not know Halo 2 is coming out for Xbox first? Where have you been the past 3 years?

    • Re:Just for XBOX! (Score:3, Insightful)

      by UpnAtom ( 551727 )
      I'd be surprised if Halo 1 didn't account for most XBox sales.

      Think about that. Bungie weren't far off releasing Halo for PC when M$ bought them. We then had to wait 18 months for the XBox port, and another 24 months for the more-or-less identical PC version.

  • This just in (Score:4, Funny)

    by Rosco P. Coltrane ( 209368 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:10PM (#10496670)
    A computer game has been released. The President isn't scheduled to comment on the momentous event...
  • Some people poll Slashdot a dozen times a day and expect a larger quanity of news, be it trivial or not.

  • Why I dislike Halo (and all modern console games) (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Kethinov ( 636034 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:13PM (#10496693) Homepage Journal
    I should preface this comment by saying it is very subjective and should be read as such. I'm making huge generalizations about entire platforms and I don't want to turn it into a debate but rather a discussion.

    From the first day, I've been given a horrible impression by all modern consoles. PS2, GC, and XBox. My issues is with their controller setups. I absolutely despise the concept of dual joystick and I think the XBox controllers are the worst yet. Many people would surely agree with me that they're oversized and poorly laid out. There are of course third party replacements.

    This leads me to a conclusion that PC gaming is just "better" from a usability standpoint. In a PC FPS I get freelook with the mouse, and 5 individual buttons to map (at least on my mouse). On the left, I get movement and strafe as well as any other function I want to bind near those keys. The classic "Quake" layout. And I can change this layout at will. It is far more powerful and far more natural.

    Beyond that, PC games have readily available multiplayer over the internet; the apex of multiplayer gaming. Console games are only just now getting this, and some of them are even subscription only.

    In short, if I were to purchase Halo, I wouldn't touch the console. I'd get it for the PC. It's just a superior gaming experience. I don't see how the negligible (to me) convenience of plugging in a console and playing the game could at all be anywhere near the gaming experience you get on a PC with its infinitely customizable interface.

    In short, if Halo 2 is available for PC (and Linux in my case), I would consider it. But as long as any game remains locked into a console with what is IMHO an inferior interface it won't be worth my time and money.

    Tell me, anyone, what is the lure of console games? Is it merely the plug it in and go aspect? Why settle for an inferior user interface? Or am I missing something important here regarding the design of modern contollers? I did like the N64 controller as well as controllers like the Gravis Gamepad Pro. But dual-joystick just isn't a substitute for a mouse and keyboard for me. /endrant
    • Lure of console games?

      1) Not having to wonder if you system can handle said game...it just works
      2) Not having to upgrade your system to play said game...it just works
      3) Not having to know your system inside and out.

      It's gaming for the masses.

      Controllers, I love the Xbox and GC controllers (PS2 can suck it) because of the placement of the dual analogs. Your argument "freelook with the mouse" is done with one analog, and the other is movement and strafe, just like any PC setup. Besides that, many games offer custom controller setups (Halo did) if you don't like the default.

      The original Xbox controllers were big, they were big enough to be comfortable like a pillow in your hands after a few hours of gaming. Initially I thought they sucked as well, until I used one for a while and realized how well it was layed out.

      It's hot in here..I forgot where I was going with this (if anywhere)
      • Just give me a keyboard for the X-Box and I would be all set.
      • I'm only going to address the controllers point as it is the major usability issue from which my detesting of the said platforms originates.

        Controllers, I love the Xbox and GC controllers (PS2 can suck it) because of the placement of the dual analogs. Your argument "freelook with the mouse" is done with one analog, and the other is movement and strafe, just like any PC setup. Besides that, many games offer custom controller setups (Halo did) if you don't like the default.

        Using your right thumb to freelook

      • My biggest gripe controllers is when the joysticks also have a click action. For some reason I always seem to click it down when I trying to pull backwards in a rush. This can be quite unfortunate in some games!
      • Cost to buy X-Box to play latest iteration of Halo: $150
        Cost to upgrade your PC to play latest iteration of Doom: ~$700

        I just spent $500 on upgrades on my PC, and Doom 3 still runs horribly at 800x600... sigh.
        • You didn't do a very good job of buying your upgrades then...

          A 9800 Pro will run it nicely at 1024x768 and can be had for less than $200. A decent Athlon XP and mobo for around $120 together (maybe less, I haven't priced them lately). That's $320 and will kick ass at 800x600...I use a very similar system and play at 1024x768 with everything on except for the completely uncompressed texture mode and it plays like a dream.

      • Also (Score:2)

        by oGMo ( 379 )
        Also:
        • Diverse lineup of games (not just the latest quake clone or RTS). I don't just mean adventures, RPGs, platformers, music, and X-sports games; I mean the crazy wonderful things like the recent Katamari Damacy [ign.com].
        • It's extremely inexpensive. For Doom 3, upgrades to run it might cost $500+ and that's not including a top-of-the-line video card. The NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra is $500 alone. With a console, I pay maybe $300 once when it first comes out ($100-$200 a few generations later), and then all I h
    • What you're failing to see, is that console games can be custom tailored to the respective game pad. The halo controls suit the xbox controller perfectly, there are exactly as many functions as their are buttons by design. Extreme customization isn't really required, since every function is mapped somewhere logical. But, you can remap the buttons if you wish.

      This makes it easy for someone who hasn't played to just jump right in. The draw back is poor aim.

      Other plusses for consoles:
      -cheap hardware, don't h
      • Not everyone is going to agree with you that the default layout of the controls in the game and the controller itself is logical or "suited perfectly". Not to sound like a bragging child, but give me a mouse and keyboard vs. your controller setup, and I'll clean your clock. I simply have more control over my avatar. (Details here [slashdot.org])

        But the beauty of it is if you find such a setup unusable, you can use any controller in a PC. Even an XBox controller with a suitable adapter.

        For these reasons and more(games et

    • Um, have you seen an Xbox controller since the controller 'S' was released? Sure the first one was like holding a pumkpin, but the controller S is in no way too big. Secondly people play console games for several reasons. You don't have to upgrade consantly, some people actually like controllers better, you're not sitting in front of a computer, you can sit on the couch, it's more social and mutliplayer friendly, it's cheaper, games take better advantage of the hardware (for the most part), there aren't har

      • The 'no upgrade costs' is not true for consoles though: aftermarket controlers, broadband adapters, memory cards etc etc...I bought my mouse, case and keyboard years ago, and incremental upgrade the internals of my pc.

        To put it bluntly, I'd say that the cost for decent gameplay is the same for consoles and the pc...the only real diffence (appart from how you spend the money) is /when/ you pay the price ('cos the xbox/ps2 sure didn't cost $150 at launch).

        Now, I do have to say that consoles are getting the
    • I agree with you 100%.

      I'd just like to add one more reason PC games are superior: graphics. 1024x768 @ 76Hz on a 20 inch monitor beats the pants off of a (non-high definition) TV any day. That makes me wonder - anyone know if the current consoles support HTDV?

      I swear, if I stare at a console game for longer than 15 minutes, my eyes start watering from the low refresh rate...
      • Xbox and GC both support HDTV, although not all the games do.

        So I guess you never watch more than 15 minutes of TV either?
      • "anyone know if the current consoles support HTDV?"

        How can you sit there commenting on PCs vs Consoles when you don't even know one of the main features of a console that was released years ago (XBox)?

        "if I stare at a console game for longer than 15 minutes, my eyes start watering from the low refresh rate..."

        Do your eyes water when you watch TV too? Or do you sit 1 foot from the screen when you're playing console games?
        • That's 2 comments comparing it to watching TV, which is just wrongheaded.

          There's a major difference. When watching TV, one focuses on the picture as a whole and every frame is not important. If I blink for an extra sec or rub my eyes, I don't miss anything.

          In a game, one has to pay close attention to small subsections of the screen, focusing on individual sprites which may not be bigger than a few pixels if the object is far away. Blinking at the wrong moment or for a slightly extended period can be fatal
    • Personally I prefer the larger original XBox controller. I don't have large hands, but I don't seem to get cramps in them like I do with the Controller-S or the PS2 controllers.

      For me, I prefer a console because it isn't a PC! PC's are incredibly expensive in comparison, and they're a constant battle with keeping up as they evolve so quickly. No thanks! More importantly though, a console is more sociable and fits in with life better. It sits unobtrusively in the living room (where there's no way in he
    • Lure Theory 1:
      The Lure of paying $150 for a console, instead of upgrading your $2000 desktop machine with a $300 video card and joystick (if you're so inclined, which apparently you're not. I agree with you on this).

      Lure Theory 2:
      Exclusivity of titles - LOTS of people bought an X-Box JUST to play Halo. Just because it wasn't available on any other platform for the first year. Certainly, this is an artificial benefit, constructed by the gaming industry. But this factor exists, nonetheless.
    • There are two main reasons why I've pretty much completely abandoned computer gaming in favor of consoles.

      The first reason is that it's just a pain to play games on consoles. I agree that the mouse + WASD is the best way to play first person shooters, but honestly the Halo controls are actually very good. But the endless driver updates, game patches, getting new hardware, etc. is just something I don't really want to be bothered by. I used to think all that "tweaking" was fun, and I know a lot of people
    • Tell me, anyone, what is the lure of console games?

      volume.

      people who play a lot of games get consoles. I don't understand it myself, but some people will buy or rent a game a week or every two weeks. If you go through that many games you really have to go the console route. You save money and headaches in the long run.

      As for me, I play a very few games. I'm very picky. So, I stay with the PC.
      • Yet there is a wider availability of games for PCs than consoles. Especially when you factor in console emulation, which is largely a perfected art for dated consoles. PCs retain backward compatibility whereas consoles don't. Volume is greater there.

        Volume of new games? Now you've got an argument. But we're dealing with a lock-in concept. You HAVE to buy a Gamecube to play SSBM. Period. The user doesn't have a choice. If Nintendo game the user a choice, their sales figures would be vastly different.
        • 's more a question of volume of new, original games. Sure, the pc started it, but nowadays, most innovative gameplay is to be found on consoles. Pikmin, that rolling-ball thingy game...hell, even Shenmue probably counts.

          And I don't even have a console...it's just too expensive and consoles don't have 3d modeling suites (or run Maple, for that matter :))...otherwise I'd get one for the games.
    • From the first day, I've been given a horrible impression by all modern consoles. PS2, GC, and XBox. My issues is with their controller setups. I absolutely despise the concept of dual joystick and I think the XBox controllers are the worst yet. Many people would surely agree with me that they're oversized and poorly laid out. There are of course third party replacements.

      Are you off your rocker? Dual joysticks are great. You have 360 degrees of analog input without rasing your thumb. The modern game pad i
    • You really, honestly can't be farther from the truth. In those rare instances where two joysticks are used, they work VERY well. Halo's the best example, but there are a few others. Mouselooking is better than a keyboard or most Atari-style PC joysticks, but for most games it's just not as intuitive as a joystick.

      As for the lure of console games: When I play a PC game, I have to wonder "am I playing the game that I paid money for, or a buggy example thereof"?

      By and by, you are missing one other very im

    • Tell me, anyone, what is the lure of console games?

      Several other people have mentioned price, exclusive titles, etc. But I still think the main lure of consoles is the 'couch' factor. I've had great times with friends playing console games, competing with each other in GT:3 or playing co-operative games. A party I was at recently featured a hacked XBox with a bunch of emulators (and ROMs), plus four or five XBox games on the hard drive. We had fun all night passing the controllers around, trying to

      • For the record, I play Super Smash Brothers with 4 people quite often in a couch factor environment. It's powered by console emulation. USB adapters for N64 controllers and the game display s-video outed to a TV.

        Identical to the real thing.

        PCs are fully capable of this couch factor market.
        • Yeah, but look at the effort you went through!

          I don't want to spend 10 hours setting up my PC to emulate Super Smash Bros (not even a current-gen game!), going to find N64-to-USB controller adaptors, certainly not in even store on the block, hooking up your computer to the TV, having to MOVE your computer into the living room and have it stick out like a sore thumb atop your nice entertainment center, having to slide your 200lb TV around to get at the s-video port, having to buy a video card with s-video o

    • Re:Why I dislike Halo (and all modern console game (Score:5, Interesting)

      by ZorbaTHut ( 126196 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @05:08PM (#10497119) Homepage
      I've spent a long time trying to figure out why I dislike this argument. It never sat well with me. It took me months - but one day I went to a friend's house to play some RPGs and I realized why.

      "Give us better weapons!"
      "No."
      "But the game won't be fun unless you do!"

      You know, power isn't everything. Sometimes part of the fun is not being godlike. In PC FPS games, you're pretty much guaranteed to be able to snipe people, instantly, with a machine gun, from two hundred yards away. And you know, I don't care. It's not interesting.

      In Halo, it's a lot tougher. "Fire for effect" becomes a reality. Sometimes you're not really trying to hit anything, because you can't, you're too far away - you're just trying to keep their heads down.

      To me, a game isn't necessarily fun just because I can kill things more easily. It's fun because of the challenge. It's fun because of the story, or the coolness. I'm told they jacked up the difficulty when they moved Halo to the PC - is it more fun now? I mean, sure, you're more powerful. No argument. So are they. So why is it now "more fun"?

      I'd agree that there's a level of frustration when you just can't make the controls do what you want. But I didn't encounter that in Halo. You can snipe easily, if you have a sniper weapon. You can aim if you put a little time and work into it. It's far above the frustration point - so what's the issue?

      Compare Starcraft and Total Annihilation. In almost every way, Total Annihilation's interface was far superior. You could select an unlimited number of units. You could queue up any commands, up to and including construction commands (yes, that's right - thirty seconds of clicking and you've got fifteen minutes of construction set up.) Does this mean TA is a better game?

      No, of course not.

      A game is a good game if people enjoy it. That is necessary and sufficient. Deer Hunter is a good game - for its target audience, it fills the exact need. Halo is a good game.
      • Excuse me? Not to be offensive, but you don't play with very competent people.

        I went to a xbox party where even the noobs were sniping with the pistol when targets were so far away they were just pixels.

        Halo is just as susceptible to bad physics as any other game. You want realism? Try Doom 3!

        Just kidding. Games aren't realistic, and Halo less than most.
        • Oddly, the pistol is the best weapon for sniping at medium range, because it auto-tracks. :) On the other hand, I've found it's not good at *truly* long range, and it's hard to get headshots with it. For that, you need the sniper rifle.

          Also, keep in mind that "so far away they were just pixels" isn't all that far away at 640x480.

          I'm not particularly going for realism, I suppose - just balance. When any gun can snipe, that just sucks. Oddly, the pistol in Halo is an extremely powerful and accurate single-s
    • It's easy for me.

      On the PC I played a lot of FPS, and a few RTS. I didn't like anything else. I'd sit there with headphones on, staring at the screen, and not talking to anyone.

      On a console I play a lot of other types of games- platformers, 3rd person shooters (different beast than an FPS) sports, driving, flying, etc.

      Try playing Burnout 3 on a PC. First of all- it doesn't exist. Secondly, driving games such big time on a PC, unless you buy a wheel. I had a racing wheel, and I still didn't really li
    • "far more natural"

      Sorry, where were the triggers on your mouse again?

      I have an xbox (modded, 40+ games on a 250GB drive ready to go instantly). Hook it up to a projector and we have 4-player action straight away for Halo, Unreal, FIFA, NBA, NHL, etc.

      Don't get me wrong, I like FPS' with a mouse/kb combo, but console FPS games are adapted to require less accuracy and they're still very effective.

      I've never had an Xbox game complain about my computer being out of memory, not having the required video card,

  • I love bees... (Score:5, Informative)

    by Theaetetus ( 590071 ) <theaetetus,slashdot&gmail,com> on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:13PM (#10496695) Homepage Journal
    Incidentally, the countdown [ilovebees.com] is steady at 00:00:00:00:000

    And there's a whole bunch of .wavs on the site if you go digging.

    -T

    • ...not offtopic (Score:5, Informative)

      by Theaetetus ( 590071 ) <theaetetus,slashdot&gmail,com> on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:33PM (#10496852) Homepage Journal
      The ilovebees.com website appears to be a very well done viral advertisement for Halo 2. The story behind it is that its owner appeared on a blog asking for help a few months ago, that her site had been 'hacked'. As people investigated, more and more information came to light that this was Bungie-related, much like the Cortana emails prior to Halo 1.

      Latest development has been that a set of coordinates for payphones and times were decoded from the site, and people have been going to those payphones, picking them up when they ring, and speaking to "the operator".

      Neat, kinda spooky, and coming to a head with the release today.

      -T

  • "going gold"? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Jeff DeMaagd ( 2015 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:23PM (#10496775) Homepage Journal
    What is the etymology of this phrase? For games, it seems like it means that something is final, before shipping. For music, it seems that it has sold a certain number of copies.
  • I can already feel my fingers and wrists burning from the button mashing that will soon commence.

    Carpal Tunnel here I come!

  • Real Ultimate Power?!?! (Score:5, Funny)

    by PhiberOptix ( 182584 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:24PM (#10496787)
    "Halo 2 is a lot like Halo 1, only it's Halo 1 on fire,
    going 130 miles per hour through a hospital zone,
    being chased by helicopters and ninjas ...
    And, the ninjas are all on fire, too."

    --Jason Jones

    Bungie Studios

    for more sweet ninja action, go for www.realultimate power.net

  • Weekly update video torrent (Score:3, Informative)

    by AIX-Hood ( 682681 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:33PM (#10496850)
    There's a torrent for the final weekly update video that was just put out, covering the final weeks of development and release to manufacturing at the game studio, here: http://www.filerush.com/torrents/weeklyupdate_hire s-10-11-04.wmv.torrent [filerush.com]

  • Halo Haiku! (Score:5, Funny)

    by vandelais ( 164490 ) on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:37PM (#10496885)
    Blue team has the flag.
    Where did that grenade come from?
    Red team-flag returned!
  • from the article was that MSN Messenger can grok Xbox Live status! That's cool!

  • What is the deal (Score:4, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday October 11, 2004 @04:40PM (#10496909)
    I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you XBox fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a XBox (a 8600/300 w/mod chip) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this XBox, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

    In addition, during this file transfer, Gotham Racing will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even Tony Hawk Underground is straining to keep up as I type this.

    I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various XBoxes, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a XBox that has run faster than its Wintel counterpart, despite the XBox's faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 300 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the XBox is a superior machine.

    XBox addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a XBox over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.
    • Unless your computer cost $150 or less, and the games you enjoy typically involve a lot of file transfers, your above comment doesn't make a lot of sense.

      Also, nobody would claim the XBox is a superior machine from a productivity standpoint, because nobody uses it for productivity. It's for games. Games that are not about file transfers.

      And frankly, I hope we both get modded off-topic. No XBox zealots have even posted on the thread yet...
    • 1. I didn't know the purpose of an xbox was to copy 17mb files around. 2. It's not a computer, its a console 3. Haha mine does it alot faster than that, your xbox sucks 4. Maybe yours runs like shit because you messed up your mod? Mine runs great, and so do all my friends. 5. Productivity? Are you stupid? its a *VIDEO*GAME*CONSOLE* unless your buisness is too cheap for PC's and has to mod xbox's and use them, then theres no way your doing anytyhing related to productivity. 6. Blah blah blah if you can't get
    • Ummm, maybe it's because it's not a PC? This is like saying that your toaster is bogus space heater.

  • There for a moment, I'd read the headline as Half-life 2 goes gold, got excited, and then wondered what Bungie or Microsoft had to do with it. Oh well.

    /Still waiting for Duke Nukem...

  • dammit (Score:2, Funny)

    by Chiisu ( 462604 )
    as if my GPA wasn't in enough danger with Counter-Strike Source released. oh, and also started dating someone.

    yes, you read that correctly, i'm a disgrace to all slashdotters ;)

  • Blow me away (Score:2, Informative)

    by kyoko21 ( 198413 )
    I just heard the free track from the new soundtrack for Halo 2 and it sounds pretty cool. Download here [nilerodgers.com].

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