Half-Life 2 Going Gold on Monday? [updated] 278
Warrior-GS writes "According to GameSpy, Gabe Newell has announced that Half-Life 2 is going gold on Monday. Numerous retail outlets have Sept. 1 or Sept. 2 as a shelf-date for the game, so a gold announcement now seems to mean those dates are fairly close to reality." Given that HL2 is already available on Steam, this doesn't sound too far-fetched. Update: 08/28 19:27 GMT by T : Kraiger writes "According to HL2 Fallout the announcement of the futuristic FPS, "Half-Life 2", going Gold is a complete hoax! According to HL2 Fallout, the announcement from Gabe Newell, a Valve Software employee, was created by someone who was able to guess the simple password of "gaben" for Gabe's forum account."
Hoax (Score:5, Informative)
After a close scrutiny of Gabe Newell’s account history on the forums, we've come to the conclusion that the gold post is a fake. While we can't be 100% certain at this stage, all indicators point towards someone hacking the forum account. That said, all Gabe's previous posts on these forums are quite legitimate.
We apologize for the confusion and will be investigating further. Theoretically, an IPB forum account should be very difficult to hack. Well, that was the theory at least. We'll keep you updated. "
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
what exactly are they loading up from the network, good vibes & empty pr?
with their track record of 'staying on course' and making it on the deadline(and bullshitting abou the progress) it doesn't look too good either..
Re:Hoax (Score:5, Informative)
All the textures, graphics, etc. That's what takes up most of the space, and most of them will have been finalized by now.
The game engine can come along at the last minute, when they do go gold - it's probably only a few hundred megs at most.
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
Pessimistic me, no? I am damn realistic. Check all the forums and customers screaming for help. Then compare it to the game company's marketing materials. It's always night and day! If anyone expect HL2 to work out of the box for most users, they're going to be terribly disappointed.
Re:Hoax (Score:3, Interesting)
I think you have that backwards... the stuff I read suggests that ATI owners will be dancing in the streets (I get pretty decent framerates in CS:Source) while nvidia owners will be contemplating jumping from the nearest tall building. I also get pretty decent performance out of Doom 3.
Of course people are going to rush out and buy this game! Its going to be the best thing since... er... Half-life. It'll make people forget about Doom 3 and
LOL (Score:2)
Re:LOL (Score:2, Insightful)
Yeh, first it was "Half-Life 2 will work x times better on an ATI card than nVidia," but that has proven to be BS. There are some rumors floating around that the 5x00 video cards are having some DX 9 problems with CS:Source, but I haven't read them yet, and it doesn't affect me anyway.
Then, it was "DOOM 3 will work x times better with an nVidia 6800 GT/Deluxe than an ATI card." Once ATI fixed their OpenGL support in their drivers a
Re:Hoax (Score:4, Insightful)
If Valve would just give a simple update on the release time-frame, they could avoid sending their POTENTIAL customers into fits again. They left the door wide open for a hoax like this by starting the pre-loading without any direction as to when people will be able to play. Now I am going to have a new(well it was new a year ago) graphics card AND a gigabyte of data wasting away on my PC.
I guesss I'll be putting my $50USD into DOOM3. I'll see you in the dark!
Re:Hoax (Score:3, Funny)
No, you won't
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
they said its going gold soon
they cant say anything more than that because once its gone gold is it totaly up to vivendi when it is released
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
I bet he uses that password for everything, time to see if I can use it to download a finished copy of HL2 from his machine. Then I can play the finished thing while Valve delays the game again for another year! Meheheheheh!
Re:Hoax (Score:3, Funny)
Re:Hoax (Score:2)
And me on the other side of the pond... Just my luck
This appears to be a hoax... (Score:5, Informative)
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:5, Funny)
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:2)
The password is probably 'ATI' ;-)
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:5, Informative)
An anonymous imposter guessed Gabe's password, "gaben", and made the false claim. Valve has confirmed that this is was a hoax on the Steam Forums.
Update: After one crazy night of theories, server mayhem and IP tracing, we've finally gotten to the bottom of this mess. In a twist of hilarity, it seems that Gabe Newell's account password was set to 'gaben'. Person x guessed this and made the "going gold on Monday" post which we've heard so much about. The user (who we believe is the same person x) then made this post just minutes ago using Gabe's account [announcing that he guessed Gabe's pass as "gaben"]
After a quick double-check, it seems that this was exactly what happened. Reminds me of the good old days. For an official response concerning the hoax, see Chris Bokitch's post on Steampowered. I think Gabe is going to need to start using slightly better passwords on accounts he uses to make public announcements on.
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:2)
the guy's a hazard with a computer...does becoming CEO of a company just make people technically incompetent? so wierd. he might be a brilliant game designer or project manager or whatever, but these kinds of things are just inexcusable...
if it was a lower-down on the totem pole, how long would they have kept their job?
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:2)
All of this furious debate does nothing but boost the profile of the HL2 release (whenever it may be). They're getting free publicity with every article speculating, then refuting a release date. Every fanboi who complains that their life has no meaning until the release date, and whines that they're breaking promises, etc.
Let me put it another way since I'm sure the skeptics are grumbling that it's all BS:
Over the last couple weeks or so, people were frantically trying t
Re:This appears to be a hoax... (Score:2)
Not to touch off a flamewar, but he worked for Microsoft on the Windows team for quite some time in the past before forming Valve.
And the hardware to run it... (Score:4, Funny)
You got it wrong (Score:4, Funny)
Re:And the hardware to run it... (Score:5, Interesting)
I was very, very wrong. I inserted the Half-Life disc into my 4x CD-ROM and started to install it to my PC... It had 24MB of memory, a "PR233" Cyrix Processor, and I believe the video card at the time was a 4MB card with "pretend" support for Direct3D.
The pain.
The horror.
You know those Houndeye creatures I think they're called, the ones that create a blue circle of hurt? One of those would bring that computer to a complete standstill when it did its little attack.
The poor Cyrix also over-heated often, so often that I renamed the short-cut to the game "Crash-Life" and felt better somehow.
This story does have a happy ending though. After a few days of suffering, I got myself a Celeron 366 and clocked that baby at 550 MHz, I got a voodoo2, and i think a massive 96 MB of ram. If it hadn't been for Half-Life, I likely would not have upgraded for months, maybe even years. Behold the Power of a Computer Game!
Of course, the question is, will HL2 be good enough to cause people like me to run out and do the same thing we did six years ago? Perhaps that will be the true measure of its success; not that it is hardware hog, any game can be that, but that a game can be good enough for folks to plunk down three or for figures worth on hardware to play it.
Re:And the hardware to run it... (Score:2)
Updated drivers, bios, prayed to the computer gods, reinstalled OS. Did everything. Then decided it was time to get a new motherboard. Problem disappeared. Who'd a thunk
Not to be mean but that is some pathetic hardware (Score:2)
There also was a demo available for Half-Life (not sure if it was available before it was for me but holland is always slow with game releases) wich would have told you if it the game ran on your hardware.
Your second machine ain't much better for games. Celerons are office machines. Not meant for games.
This post isn't meant to put you down. I just want to point out that you have to buy the right hardware. Sure cyrix and celerons are cheap but
oops my mistake (Score:2)
Started with the old 386dx/sx and I guess my bitterness blinded me. Just saw cyrix/celeron and went preachy. Sorry.
Re:And the hardware to run it... (Score:2)
Ok, so I got something like 8fps in 640x480 (or maybe I managed to push it to 800x600 by setting everything to the minimum, it still was about 8fps, that much I remember very well) but it still was fun and scary. And exciting (although not as exciting as the
why is this funny? (Score:2)
This game is nothing like Doom3; it is NOT graphics intensive. It's more cpu intensive due to greater use of physics and AI.
This game was demoed last year on high end hardware at amazing speeds. The "leaked" source ran beautifully on my machine then (an Athlon 2000+ with a 9500 Pro and 512MB RAM). CS:Source is playing NOW at cybercafes around the country on normal hardware (I personally played it on athlon 2500+ with an NVidia FX something-or-other).
I'm per
Re:why is this funny? (Score:2)
They said the same thing about DOOM3 (Score:2)
If you play games, you must know that you'll need a fairly recent machine to play new games. But I'm sure HL2 will run just fine on my machine. Maybe not at maximum quality, maybe not at maximum resolution,
Re:And the hardware to run it... (Score:3, Funny)
Re:And the hardware to run it... (Score:2)
I'm looking forward to this (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:2)
(with their track record, I would feel like preordering a valve product to be like preordering phantom)
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:3, Funny)
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:2)
Uhhh if your drooling - why don't you actually download the thing - or at least CS: S beta. I was pretty happy to find out that my coupon gave me the ability to download the little bundle package that they have for sale, and considering I never played opposing force, getting it and HL2 on release day is a pretty fair deal.
Those with ATI cards and coupons shoudl visit http://ati.com/online/hl2 [ati.com] and check out that bundle because on release day you lose that "This will tide them over we hope" extras pack.
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:2, Interesting)
See: this link [yarbroughs.org]
Let's just say I'm extremely dissapointed in Valve for where they have taken this. I wouldn't hold your breath on mods, either. This game is now DRM'd to the hilt... making and finding mods just got a lot more difficult, as did running a creative server.
I didn't think I'd ever say this, but I may actually pass on this
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:5, Informative)
Did Steam have an awful lot of problems when it was first released? Yes, it did. But, believe it or not, the people working on Steam at Valve are not some kind of evil sadists who enjoy making people jump through hoops to play their game. They've created a rather nice system for making sure your games are always updated, and giving you an easy way to purchase new games from them without having to run down to the nearest Gamestop. Problems do occur, and they try to fix them as soon as possible.
And, I certainly doubt Valve is going to make it hard for mods to be created. They aren't stupid - they know that one of the big reasons Half-Life has sold so well over the past 6 years is because of fun mods like TFC and CS. How many other 6 year old games do you see with thousands of servers running right now? Currently, they allow really popular mods to be listed in the Steam gui, with a screenshot and a short writeup. Other mods can still be played (I remember at least once getting in a game of Pirates, Vikings, and Knights [pvkmod.com] over Steam) just as they always could.
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:2)
Like you, I'm not a big gamer, infact I've only ever bought Quake1, HL1, GTA VC, and I've had HL2 on order for over 12 months, and upgraded my graphics card 11 months ago in anticipation of a release in the Autumn of 2003.
Now my 11 month old graphics card is looking a little d
Re:I'm looking forward to this (Score:2)
Fortunately I found a big-box electronics store about 15 min from EB that ALWAYS has tons of copies of the latest games, even on release day - so I've stopped using BE all together.
N.
Gold, perhaps, but not yet retail (Score:5, Interesting)
-MT.
Re:Gold, perhaps, but not yet retail (Score:2, Insightful)
Tip for you: Retailers are the last to know when the game is going to ship.
Thank the lord! (Score:2)
Zero Sales? (Score:2, Interesting)
Re:Zero Sales? (Score:2)
I think HL2 will easily sell more than 100K.
Re:Zero Sales? (Score:2)
Don't be a tool... (Score:2)
"ATI Radeon 9600 Series 58,022". That plus my original post = 100K.
So your post is completely false.
Re:Zero Sales? (Score:2)
Which is a good thing. Why should I have to carry around a bundle of cd's just so I can find the right one to stick in the computer when I played a game. Usually one of the first things I do when I buy a game that has this arcane requirement is to download a no-cd patch. Copy protection only hurts the paying custome
I, for one (Score:3, Interesting)
I may be a bit sensitive to this because one of the other games I looked forward to (Battlefield Vietnam) had a set of conditions to use the online anticheat system (to my knowledge mandatory for Internet gaming) that were intrusive enough that I just shelved it. I just want to buy it and play it, not open my use of the software up to unwarranted scrutiny.
Re:I, for one (Score:3, Insightful)
Probably. What personal information (apart from your email address) has Steam taken? What personal details did you have to give up to install Steam? Answer: Nothing!
I have to go now, I think Doom3 is stealing my credit card numbers...
Re:I, for one (Score:3, Insightful)
The OP is talking about an in intrusion into his computer activity, not necessarily his privacy. (Although it does associate specific computer activity with an email address and IP address, which should be cause for concnern...) In this regard, Steam is extremely intrusive: It requires you to authenticate yourself to the game's manufacturer every time you start the game.
I've never seen such a thing with *any* retail application. Even XP only makes you do this when you first install it, not every time
Re:I, for one (Score:2)
Quake 3 checks your CD key against a master server when you go online, and it's by no means the only game to do so.
Re:I, for one (Score:2)
wtf? This got modded insightful how?
Perhaps in la-la land. In the real world I can happily play HalfLife and the rest without having a net connection.
Re:I, for one (Score:2)
Load a cheat onto your system and fire up steam and start playing - if the valve anti-cheat software finds the cheat on your system, your account is banned from online play for a year and your brand-new $50 game is reduced to single-player only mode.
I LOVE IT!
To think that the cheaters could lose their entire gaming investment and be forced to purchase the game again (or wait a year) fills me joy
N.
Re:I, for one (Score:2)
probably not (Score:4, Informative)
http://www.csnation.net/comments.php?id=7475 [csnation.net]
http://www.halflife2.net/forums/showthread.php?t=
http://www.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php
All the info you need to know this is probably fake.
Steam (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Steam (Score:2)
at least of they care about testing at all(could be that they don't care, seeing the thing is already on preloading when they havent finished it..).
Yes, but did you ask if ... (Score:4, Funny)
And in related news... (Score:5, Funny)
Game Hype (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Game Hype (Score:2, Insightful)
It won't be as bad as Doom 3 -- just watch the videos.
The real question however is; how scripted will the "interactivity" be. There's nothing I hate more than games that try to give the impression of freedom and "reality", but where no matter what I do, I will always find myself in the exact same situation in the end.
"Medal of Honour" being a prime example of such scripted game.
Eh? Going Gold? (Score:4, Funny)
Pre-sold x copies?
Code ready so CDs can be mastered?
Available in shops to buy?
Cracked and available on bittorrent?
Re:Eh? Going Gold? (Score:5, Informative)
Re:Eh? Going Gold? (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Eh? Going Gold? (Score:2)
The writable discs back then had gold faces, so the gold master was in fact a gold color. I dont know if any special discs are used for the master when its send to be duplicated, or even if it is, but the term has stuck.
It would make more sense nowadays just to FTP the cd images to the plant, though.
Re:Eh? Going Gold? (Score:2)
Satan says: (Score:3, Funny)
Even if it was real... (Score:5, Funny)
It would help to NOT make Half Life too intensive (Score:2, Offtopic)
They run on moderately powered PC's as compared to Unreal and other system heavy games.Thats what created the mass apeal as a larger amount of people can play them.If they follow the same principle i think It should do better than the first part.
Wrong... (Score:2)
CS uses more RAM than HL and TFC, so those with 32megs of RAM are having problems. In your command line, set -heapsize 32000 -- or try other values, smaller or larger -- depending how much RAM you have. (from counter-strike.net) The reason CS is popular is because it is a great team mod with an appro
Half-Life 2 Isn't availible on steam! (Score:2, Insightful)
Well obviously its a hoax... (Score:5, Interesting)
Uh, clearly written by somebody who has never had anything go gold... Before something is going gold, you have release candidates. You test the release candidates intensely, and if you find no bugs, then it goes gold. So you can't say on Friday that you are going gold on monday, unless you already know you have no bugs, in which case you already should have gone gold...
If this were real, he would say that they had a release candidate. The difference between an RC and Gold is testing, which is what will be happening between now and Monday...
Re:Well obviously its a hoax... (Score:2, Interesting)
I also agree with you that it is a hoax, as the post from hl2fallout.com has come from a proxy server, and the poster has also posted a message boasting about how he has the account.
On a seperate note, valve included a second test with the preload, the text "password is nova/prospekt this is the second test" has been found in the EXIF information of a jpg inside the preload, more information at halflife2.net for
It's a fake (Score:2, Informative)
http://members.lycos.co.uk/lemmingzappa/Post.JPG
http://www.hl2fallout.com/forums/index.php?showto
Oh my god, I can't feel my legs (Score:2)
Re:Oh my god, I can't feel my legs (Score:2)
I haven't even bothered to play Doom III past the first fifteen minutes yet.
Pirates? Yarrr! (Score:2)
Re:Pirates? Yarrr! (Score:2)
Collector's Edition? (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:Collector's Edition? (Score:2)
Enjoy your new collectible box. Maybe they'll actually include a cool manual in it instead of a tiny little booklet with 3 pages and an coupon for $1 off the Prima Strategy Guide.
September 13 (Score:2)
Gabe! Why oh Why! (Score:2)
What a dumb ass, you think Gabe would have learned at least something about security by now, espeically taking into account past events. Well, once a Microsoft employee, always a Microsoft employee.
Publicity 101 (Score:2)
Note that the above sequence will get your product listed *TWICE* in most major gaming news sites. It's just a publicity stunt. We all know Half Life 2 will not be released for another year atleast. Move along, citizens.
I mean, seriously, you think with the huge number of script kiddie half life fans not a single one of them tried that simple password until now?
Re:Publicity 101 (Score:2)
Wow, how surprising. (Score:2)
Stupid password, stupid person (Score:2)
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:2)
-MT.
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:5, Funny)
Oh no, not another camper...
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:5, Interesting)
Regarding graphics its not D3 but it pretty darn good looking.
http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/492/4
The thing is D3 is all about cramped indoor environments. Hallways and Offices etc. HL2 looks to be much more in the vein of cityscapes and outdoor areas which after D3 will actually be VERY refreshing. Don't get me wrong I'm still enjoying being scared by D3(and yes headphones are the ONLY way to play!) but I'm kind of over the whole walk into dark room, have imp jump out at me. The formula while still fun gets really stale 2/3 in. And fuck are those half-baby half fly things annoying.
Anyway while Valve has really pissed me off with the delays I'm still very much looking forward to HL2. That and hitting people in the head with a crowbar. HL2 is looking to be pretty different from D3 and that's a good thing. My nerves couldn't take another creep and get scared jump fest.
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:2)
You're confusing artistic interpretation with the ability of the engine. Either one could be used to render, for example, The Simpsons quite easily, but where it's limits lay are the real tests.
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:2)
it blows Doom 3 out of the water and over the horizon.
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:3, Insightful)
Re:Not looking so hot after Doom 3... (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Who gives a crap? (Score:2)
Oh my god!! A company that charges what the market will bear! How can they do such a thing?
That's not even true either. I bought the HL platinum pa
Re:Who gives a crap? (Score:2)
Re:Who gives a crap? (Score:2)
Re:CS2? (Score:2)