Games Industry Sees 12 Billion in Sales For 2006 181
Gamespot is reporting that, with the NPD numbers in, we can finally put the debate about last year's winners and losers to rest. Overall, the industry was the winner, with a record-breaking $12.5 Billion in sales last year. December accounted for almost $4 Billion all by itself. In software, the usual suspects prevailed. Madden topped the chart with 2.8 Million in sales for the PS2 version of Madden 07. Right behind was New Super Mario Bros. on the DS, with some 2 Million in sales of its own. On the console side of things ... well, as Kotaku points out 'everyone is a winner' this year. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have all put out press releases declaring themselves the winner of the Holiday console wars. The sad reality, though, is there can be only one. According to the NPD numbers, between the launch of the new consoles and the end of the year, some 1.1 Million Nintendo Wiis were sold with 687,300 PS3s following closely behind. Microsoft trails with its numbers from 2005; it sold 607,000 consoles in its launch year. Don't feel too bad for Microsoft, though. They sold 1.1 Million 360s in December. The article points out this means Microsoft met its '10 Million in sales' goal for the end of 2006.
Price (Score:5, Insightful)
Honestly, when it comes to console sales I don't think price has that much of an impact on early adopters because it is a planned purchase; something which is budgeted for and anticipated months in advance. Where price becomes a factor is that most console purchases are not planned and happen when one or two popular games are sold; when someone watches an advertisement on TV and goes out to buy a PS3 with Metal Gear Solid or Final Fantasy they will (mostly) be anticipating a price of $300 or $400 for the system and game combined.
Re:Price (Score:4, Interesting)
True, to hardcore gamers price possibly isn't AS big a deal, but even there I am betting a number of people that would have picked up the PS3 (despite the lackluster showing of games) are waiting it out for better games and a pricedrop (where in over cases people would have been willing to pick it up and then wait for the games).
Oh, and with the 360's showin in December, it looks like the race is going to be between MS and Nintendo.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
And as far as the quote abou
Re: (Score:2)
Moms don't think twice about paying $800 or more for a sofa, because that's what sofas cost. If Sony can convince even a relatively small number of them that there's nothing w
Re: (Score:2)
As the quote indicates, people are willing to go into debt for the holidays. You can expect sales of the PS3 and to a lesser extent the Xbox 360 to fall off more sharply on a month-to-month basis than the Wii, although the sales of the Wii will of course be less than they were in December as well. Still, the Wii has the lowest price so when consumers come out of their Ho
Re: (Score:2)
It's all relative? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
For the December 2006, Microsoft sold 1.1 million Xbox 360 consoles, following a
Re: (Score:2)
I have to concur with the OP though; 400k consoles is not "close" at all.
Re: (Score:2, Informative)
Re: (Score:2)
In defense of Microsoft, their initial sales were also constrained by supply problems. So just barely edging out Microsoft's 2005 sales isn't much of a victory for Sony. It might make for some nice headlines, though. God knows that Sony needs some positive press.
Nifty (Score:2)
I am VERY happy to see NSMB at number 2 (Hey, I am a nintendo fanboy, what can I say). I also am unsurprised (though still disapointed in the general public) to see Madden at #1.
What I AM surprised about is to see the number of Z:TP copies sold for the NGC vs the number sold for the Wii. And if you add the 2 numbers together you end up with it dominating the december market, and coming into the top 10 for the year, and that is cause for much rejocing to me!
Re: (Score:2)
Why?
I'm not a sports gamer, but I imagine it's because they know in less than a year, the next version of the same game will be out and if you missed the launch of the game by 6 months, you can probably just wait 6 more for next year's better version and s
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
Technically oriented people, including me, have a hard time understanding this because we know enough about the mechanics of the games to know what is and isn't difficult developement. Aside from completely new faces, and removing retirees, the amount of work that goes into updating the rosters is trivial. We don't see something any of us could finish the majority of in at most a week as something worth $60.
However, the common Sports Gamer does
Re: (Score:2)
It's only abuse if they feel abused or h
Re: (Score:2)
Heh, I don't care since I don't own a DS, but you never know I may get one. Anyway, nothing wrong with Madden, especially if you don't already own a football game. I found it interesting that my friend, who isn't a gamer and is not into football at all, seemed quite interested in Madden after seeing it at a friends house. Persona
Re: (Score:2)
People could find something to play the GCN version on. Sales of the Wii version were limited by the number of Wiis available to play it. Personally, I got the GCN version as soon as it came out rather than deal with the insanity of trying to get a Wii before Christmas (which fell into my lap on Wednesday).
Besides, there's also the "Link is a lefty and anything else is heresy!" camp.
Re: (Score:2)
As a side note, this is the same reason why I hate seeing all these FPS games that are simply rehashes of the same ol', same ol' sell so well. I was afraid of this when we saw UT2K3 and UT2K4 (it felt exactly as if UT was turning into madden), however the games
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Because we feel it sets a bad precident.
It is true that over the years there have been many new features added to the Madden series. However, the number of features added each new year is small. This is not to say that they are bad features, but that alone they don't seem to be worth another $60 investment.
What worries us is the success of this model. If developers get the message that they can release minor updates as full blown games, the possibilities for abuse and mediocrity are
Gears of War sales? (Score:4, Interesting)
Re:Gears of War sales? (Score:5, Informative)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1376
Bottom line is that Gears of War was the best selling game of December, at 815,000 copies. It was #3 for the year with 1.8 million sales (following Madden 07 for the PS2 @ 2.8 million and New Super Mario Bros for the DS at 2 million).
It was #5 for all titles in December (the "All Titles" category lumps all versions of a single game together.. for instance, Madden 07 sales include sales on the PS2, PS3, 360, XBox, etc).
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Analyst concerns (Score:5, Interesting)
If the 1.1 million figure was just December, then it would make more sense. But 1.1 million since launch? That seems incredibly low no matter which way you cut it.
(Of course, that probably means that the PS3 and Xbox360 numbers are low as well.)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
1.1 million sold in USA alone tells me that they probably didn't meet their 4 million target, but I don't think they would have been pretty close
"Don't feel too bad for Microsoft, though." (Score:2, Funny)
Comment removed (Score:3, Insightful)
The X360 is attractring the critical RPG element (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
You want to see a force unto itself? Take a look at the Japanese software sales for the first week off 2007! [gamesarefun.com] Nintendo has 10 our of the top 10 titles, 18 out of the top 20, and 24 out of the top 30. If you look at titles actually published by Nintendo itself it's 9/10, 15/20, and 20/30. The only bad news for Nintendo there is
Re: (Score:2)
You have to go down 15 titles before you find one for a non-Nintendo system. Many of those games in the Top 10 have been out for months! Animal Crossing has been out over a year and it hit #7! Brain Training is halfway into its second year and still hit #15!
I'm simply stunned. From the get go I thought Nintendo knew what they were doing. I was certain they would do well, but I don't think I ever imagined this kind of success.
Simply wow.
Re: (Score:2)
360, sure. But Final Fantasy has always been a showboat of pushing graphics and sound, which isn't the direction Wii is going. And with their focus continuing to be on Japan, the only thing that would make S-E shift FF from the PS3 to the 360 is if the 360 actually overtakes the PS3 in Japan.
DQX on the Wii? I'd put money on it. KH3? Maybe. But
Re: FF was never pushing graphics / sound. (Score:2)
Nope. So far no version (including Kingdom Hearts) supports progressive scan, nor do many support even Dolby Prologic II. Pushing graphics and sound (despite looking pretty with great music) was never a priority. If it was last gen they would have done what Techmo did and supported the X-Box exclusively.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
I fail a bit to see what this has to do with BluRay vs. HD-DVD that much. Yeah, the system allow playing the two different media (360 = HD-DVD w/available add-on; PS3 = out of the box), but I'm not convinced that the reason people bought one of these system was the ab
Re: (Score:2)
I agree that the PS3 is a fine console, and that it does have a lot of potential, but as far as I'm concerned potential is synonymous with hopes and dreams... I own all 4 consoles from the last generation, I own the big 3
Re: (Score:2)
Then when you compare games like Madden (the number one selling game), and others for all your console, you will more than likely see the PS3 is a better game. Thus you will probably buy the PS3 versions of cross platform games and then the Sony dominance continues again.
The good news for you is that you may be able to get your PS3 cheaper than $500. My prediction is that by Q4 of this year they will be in the low $400 range. Sony jus
Re: (Score:2)
Maybe, I don't care about "big names" so much as good games, they don't have to be a well known franchise. Condemned and Dead Rising are some of my favorite titles on the Xbox 360 so far and neither is part of any franchise. Basically I need games that will get me excited at the prospect of playing them. And with the price of the console there would need to be at least 5 or 6 of those titles before I would invest.
Re: (Score:2)
I can't tell much. I'm not a game developer. But John Carmack did a recent interview and told why: summary here [arstechnica.com]
I guess it means something.
Re: (Score:2)
Exactly. There's no point in getting a PS3 until then, is there?
"More studios are producing Bluray content than HDDVD."
More studios are producing DVD content than BluRay and HD-DVD combined. Currently, they'd have a bigger market if intsead it played DVDs but only in French.
So we have a game system for games that don't exist and a movie player that caters to a niche market. What's the point?
Re: (Score:2)
Only one who comes off as a fanboy here is you.
Sounds like world of warcraft got boring in 2006? (Score:2, Funny)
Re:Sounds like world of warcraft got boring in 200 (Score:2, Insightful)
Anecdotal but it seems like the losers were online (Score:2, Insightful)
Re:Anecdotal but it seems like the losers were onl (Score:2)
I can't detect any unfairness in allocation of Wii consoles since they are equally hard to find at brick and mortar stores as they are hard to find online. I'd been trying to find a Wii console since mid-December and finally got one locally at Circuit City only because I used http://www.itrackr.com/ [itrackr.com] to notify me when some arrived (they were sold out again in less than 2 hours; probably less than 10 units).
Re:Anecdotal but it seems like the losers were onl (Score:2)
PS3 for $599.99
ATM no one seems to have the Wii instock (a few places had them as late as yesterday, but only game bundles).
If you are tryign to track down systems then:
buy wii, from techbargains [techbargains.com]
buy PS3, from techbargains [techbargains.com]
Wii Tracker [wiitracker.com]
PS3 Finder [ps3finder.com] (same people as wii tracker)
enjoy.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:Anecdotal but it seems like the losers were onl (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
However you are right. If you REALLY want a Wii it isn't that hard, just requires persistance. One of the easiest ways is to find out when a store is gettign a shipment and camp the fark out (I have 3 friends that did this, and thus have 3 Wiis). I am to lazy to do this and thus still have no Wii, however I am patient and will simply buy them once they are redaliy avaliable (I predict a month or 2). Admitedly, if
Re: (Score:2)
Wait, Wii Play is out in the UK? DAMN YOU!!!! (If you have gotten a copy of it, how is it?)
It's probably only worth it for the extra controller for the normal gamer (I got it with my preorder*), the game itself is only worth the extra £5 over the cost of a controller that it costs(Controller =£30, Wii Play =£35), considering that all other Wii games are usually £40. However it's very good for introducing new players to the Wii, though both laser hockey and cow racing are very addictive. The other reason to get it is if you are a duck hunt fan, I never was.
*walking in a
The real news - PS2 sales (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
The problem is that the large majority of gamers are not fanboys (they are the quite majority because the raving loony fanboys are the VERY vocal minority).
I am a Nintendo fanboy (though not a raving loony) and will thus be gettign a Wii, however I am also looking to pick up a PS2 this time around (I have been rather broke for th
This misses subscription services such as WoW? (Score:4, Interesting)
I'm not sure I see any PC games in the lists in the article, actually.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2, Interesting)
Re: (Score:2)
Exactly what I was wondering. Pretty sad if true.
I'm a Mac head and Windows hater, but (Score:2)
Wii and PS3 sold a lot of XB360s in December (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Then you're wrong. I don't know what the numbers are like but tons of people have come to provide us anecdotes about how they or someone they knew did just that. While the plural of anecdote is not data, at some point the numbers become compelling.
Is it just me? (Score:2)
The real race starts (Score:2, Interesting)
To that effect, if the Wii doesn't get unique games (instead of the same games on other systems with enhanced controlling schemes), the Wii might end up being the loser. Waving a remote might sound awesome for the next few months, but then people will realize that other games treat the Wii as a gimmick inst
Re: (Score:2)
I fully am with you about On-Line being the real make/break for the systems this time around.
MS has Live down pat, and if it wasn't for the charge (Even though $50 a year isn't THAT bad), I would very likely pick up a 360. They fixed up the system, they have live workign off the bat, they are courting developers and starting to get soem great lookign titles going (that was the killer on the xbox, no good games). They even
10 million worldwide? (Score:5, Interesting)
According to these NPD numbers [gamesarefun.com] Microsoft has sold a cumulative total of 4.5 million 360s in the US. So if they've hit 10 million they must have sold 5.5 million in the rest of the world. They've sold 200k in Japan [gamesarefun.com] so that would mean 5.3 million split between Europe, Australia and other smaller markets. I had the impression that the US was by far and away Microsoft's strongest market, is there some factor i'm not considering?
NPD Numbers don't represent 100% of the market (Score:2)
2 million Super Mario Bros. (Score:5, Insightful)
The "console wars" fiasco (Score:5, Insightful)
Come on guys. I can understand (barely) this kind of insaness from fanboy sites, but please, can we move forward? If you like consoles, why do you care beyond which one is more fun to play, or has more games that appeal to you? Do we really have to get into the pissing contest of which one sold an extra 10 units this month? I mean, is it relevant? Is it even interesting? If you like consoles, you have not one, nor two, but three excellent options to chose from, and that's it. I'd like to see more discussion about games rather than units shipped, Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD or whatever is trendy this week.
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Following from this, they're also interested to hear how well their investment is doing, and how likely unanticipated games are to arrive in the future. Examples: nobody would have suspected RE4 would have been released on the gamecube, but not only was it, but it was also an exclusive for something like 8 months. Another one is the repeated rumor of MGS4 being moved from ps3 to 360.
The race has only begun. (Score:2, Insightful)
This shows that Nintendo's shortages are a problem (Score:2)
The exact n
Re:This shows that Nintendo's shortages are a prob (Score:2)
1) Remember that the US was the last launch that the PS3 made, they only had to supply US and Japan. After the US launch, Nintendo had to maintain a launch in Japan, Europe, US, Australia etc. That's most likely why the production numbers didn't ramp up as much. Of course, you people in USA probably would prefer that they kept them there to deal with the demand, but speaking as an Aussie with a Wii and no PS3, it definitely makes a difference here
2) everyone says that the current b
Re: (Score:2)
Rob
PS3 will never have a system seller (Score:2, Insightful)
A $600 system can never have a "system seller" game.
This is not to say the system won't sell, but $600, as mentioned many times before, just isn't an impulse buy. Even the Xbox 360 at $400 for the premium version is a difficult "walk in and buy for Gears of War" system. One game just isn't enough.
The Wii, at $250,
Re:What you mean ... (Score:4, Informative)
Re:What you mean ... (Score:4, Insightful)
Re: (Score:3, Insightful)
Re: (Score:2)
The Wii control scheme is not just a gimmick; if it were, there wouldn't still be new players trying one and then going out and waiting in line in the cold in the hopes of getting one.
Re: (Score:2)
Re:What you mean ... (Score:5, Insightful)
Disclaimer: I am a nintendo Fan, however I will try to stay unbiased.
1.1Mill Xboxen sold in Dec (just dec, remember, both the PS3 and Wii were launched in Nov) says that they trounced the PS3. However (yes, you can see the glee in this Nintendo fanboy's eyes) the Wii is giving the 360 a run for its money with 1.1mill units sold in Nov/Dec.
Also that says the Wii's launch sales trounce the 360's, however you do have to remember that the 360 had a HORRIBLE launch when it came to product avalability, where the Wii is having an abundance of production (though they still sell out).
My prediciton?
Unless Sony pulls their act together (gets some GREAT games out FAST), it is goign to be a running war between the 360 and the Wii. Also I am willing to bet we will see Wii on shelves faster then we did for the 360, but simply b/c their production is going much better then the 360 did at launch.
Re: (Score:2)
You have a seriously dicked up definition of abundance when you claim the Wii has an abundance of production when it doesn't even match the demand.
Re: (Score:2)
If he was claiming there was an abundance if Wii's available, that would be one thing. However, he's claiming there is an abundance of production. Nintendo's production rate appears to be approximately 1 million a month, which is quite abundant. How quickly that abundance of production is eaten up or demanded only affects the abundance of the Wii itself, and not of its production.
Re: (Score:2)
Personally, I suspect the accelerometers for the controllers.
Re: (Score:3, Interesting)
Re:What you mean ... (Score:5, Insightful)
If what you're after is marketshare, then selling out is irrelevent if the number of units you sold was not enough to get you the marketshare you needed. If I had one Burke-brand computer to sell, and someone bought it, could I claim Dell, who still has ample supplies, was losing to my hot seller?
Microsoft selling 1.1 million units without selling out is a good thing, as it means their production is ample and there is still strong demand for the console. At over 10mil units sold, they have a substantial lead in the console wars, giving them all-important momentum. There is no rational way to say that Microsoft isn't winning right now.
Wii had decent production, but the fact that they sold 1.1 million consoles and were sold out is a bad thing, as it means more people wanted to buy the Wii but couldn't, artificially limiting their market share. Each console they produce now is going to satisfy the backlog -- I have a couple family members whose Christmas present was "the promise of a Wii when we can get one". While this means in the longer term they have decent potential marketshare, they're still stuck way behind Microsoft and they are not going to be able to catch up any time soon as production continues to limit sales. Though at least they sold more than Sony.
Sony had terrible production, and sold fewer consoles than everyone else. Being sold out is a bad thing as they are now in 3rd place. Unless their production suddenly shifts into impossible-mega-drive to make up the extra 500,000 units they didn't have to sell this Christmas, their position in 3rd place is solidified through most of 2007. The worst news for Sony, though, is the reports that they aren't sold out any longer and PS3s are sitting on shelves, meaning there weren't enough "we'll buy one as soon as it becomes available" to take up the new production and help them make up lost ground. There could be a lot of reasons -- though only Sony-brand crack could make you believe that price wasn't a major one -- but if this trend continues and Sony doesn't do something, then you're looking at the loser of this generation. Certainly, as of right now, they are behind.
Re: (Score:3, Informative)
However, it has been noted time and time again that while the Wii can coexist with the 360, the PS3, or both the same can not readily be said of the 360 and the PS3. While it is possible they both will survive and even do well this generation, it is just as if not more likely t
Re: (Score:2)
Re: (Score:2)
Point taken, but we're clearing discussing next-gen console video game market share, not video game market share in general (which would also include Windows as a game platform with a lot of marketshare, but again not relevent to this discussion).
Contrary to your assessment, not being able to keep up with demand in and of itself is neither good nor bad. It
Re: (Score:2)
The 360 went from ~8 million worldwide to ~10 million worldwide in the period following the launch. Nintendo went from 0 to ~4 million worldwide. If the 2:1 ratio and current sales rate continue, we'll see Nintendo as the worldwide leader before long.
Re: (Score:2)
seeing as ps2 games where going for 200->300 peso (2-3$)in mexico right next to the PC software, I'd say piracy is alive and well.
I had my doubts but after traveling abroad a lot this year (armenia and central america), I'd say piracy is actually a more significant concern than I'd previously though.
No, they lost 'new console launches' (Score:5, Interesting)
Of course all of them were production limited initially, so all this by itself really means is that Nintendo had the best pre-launch manufacturing story. Now I guarantee you this wasn't an accident, and manufacturability was a major consideration in the Wii's design. Still it doesn't tell the story of right now, which is that the 360 is way ahead, thanks to the whole year they had to fix their production problems and sell consoles with no next-gen competition.
Speaking of, I am once again boggled at the Sony fanbois who use the PS1 and PS2 as proof that PS3 will dominate Nintendo and MS, but forget about that all-important year lead time PS1 had on N64 and PS2 had on Xbox and GC. Now the shoe is on the other foot and Sony is starting this generation as the marketshare underdog.