Duke Nukem Forever 'Confirmed' For Late 2008

An anonymous reader writes "A Dallas newspaper is claiming that the long-in-development title Duke Nukem Forever is headed for retail release in late 2008. Unfortunately, game creator 3D Realms says that's not exactly what they meant. 'What the modest Texas newspaper actually seems to suggest is that 3D Realms is "on target" to release the mythical sequel sometime this year, though company president Scott Miller adds, "we may miss the mark by a month or two" (wink, wink). Miller also hinted that "hitting the big three" (in this case, PC, Xbox 360 and PS3) is the obvious development strategy, but he continued to stress that 3D Realms has not "formally announced any platforms for DNF."'"

It's not even funny anymore

[shawn(at)fsu]

Now it's just sad.

Re:It's not even funny anymore

[mrxak]

"Mythical sequel" indeed. I won't believe any stories about DNF until I see the game on shelves.

Re:

[Cederic]

Isn't he all out of gum?

Re:It's not even funny anymore

[Doug Neal]

Isn't he all out of gum?

No, in DNF he will be all out of ass. The game will mostly consist of simulated gum-chewing.

Re:It's not even funny anymore

[cytg.net]

Sad ? Thats just blasphemy, thou shall be modded down till you divide by zero and your account be flushed to /dev/null. Duke Nukem dont get sad, he gets mad!
And dammit i'll play that game .. if i have to code it myself!!!

Re:It's not even funny anymore

[abaddononion]

Which you will.

Re:

[PitaBred]

Ummm.... they have [duke4.net]. It's Duke Nukem 3D for modern computers. Just an upgraded engine, not a new game.

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[geeber]

It's not sad, it's GREAT news. After all there is a serious dearth of 3d shooters out on the market!

Re:

[G-funk]

Bah! Daikatana sucked, we all know. But there's Prey. That game was announced alongside UNREAL. It was so long in the past, I was asking around a couple of years ago and none of my (huge gaming nerd) mates even remembered it. It was announced in the day of the SNES and I've got it on 360. It's a great game! Not a classic along the lines of DN3D or Doom, but it's a helluva lot of fun.

Re:This 'big 3' ?

[LordLucless]

Yeah, I bet there are more Wiis in the world than PCs

Nope, still vaporware

[FredFredrickson]

Nopers, still vaporware. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/51163 [shacknews.com]

Seriously people, 3D Realms told us time, and time again. They will announce it on their site when it's real. Stop falling for this.

That being said, this still made my heart skip a beat.. or four

Re:

[TheHorse13]

I've said it once and I'll say it again... No Charlie Brown, I won't pull the football away this time...

Re:Nope, still vaporware

[Lord Ender]

I beat myself in a game of tic tac toe yesterday, so something like this was bound to happen.

What a coincidence.

[jellomizer]

That is the time I am expected to finish solving the Towers of Henoi by hand...

12 Years

[aphxtwn]

Are the people who played this game 12 years ago still playing video games now?

Re:12 Years

[orclevegam]

Are the people who played this game 12 years ago still playing video games now?

Yes.

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[malkavian]

I played games on a computer 30 years ago.. And still play now..
Interestingly, Nintendo noticed that there was a tendancy for companies to market to the under 25 market.. And chose to open up the Wii to the older population segment.. And it seems to be doing rather well for that..

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[ucblockhead]

Yes. I spent many, many hours playing Duke single player, then playing online over the now long dead TEN network. I played it pretty constantly for around a year. Hell, when I played it, I'd already been playing video games for ten years. I have been playing since the days of Castle Wolfenstein [wikipedia.org]. (And no, I do not mean the game from id that was the first fps.) The first console I ever had was a pong set my parents bought new when I was twelve. That was thirty years ago.

Last night, I spent an hour play

Re:

[Nimey]

Sonny, I've been playing video games since I was two, and I'm 28 now.

Get off my lawn.

Re:12 Years

[_Pablo]

I (36, Married, 2 kids) play in a clan where the minimum age is 25 and the oldest players are in their sixties. We have around a hundred members signed up (even a few of the fairer sex) with a good portion of them playing regularly (few nights a week).

The clan plays just about anything with COD4 being the current favorite (30 people in the COD4 channel last night) - so if DNF actually turns out to be even remotely worth the wait with a good multiplayer element then I am pretty sure it'll get played.

I'll wager there will be quite a few 30+ gamers slapping down their cash (or firing up their torrent for evaluation purposes) to see what 12 years of development has done (and what pixel shader lap dancers look like :P).

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[urcreepyneighbor]

12 years ago

wtf? I just played DN3D a couple days ago. Jeesh.

Some of us haven't moved on with our lives, you know!

Re:12 Years Duke Nukem 3D

[vorlich]

Just over ten years ago, in 1997 my girlfriend and I danced around the apartment for at least fifteen minutes after she had finally killed the giant boss in the arena with (if my elderly memory serves me correctly,) the machine-gun. It was by far the best and hardest victory over a computer game ever and even getting the Warthog to the spaceship in Halo 1 was well.. an anti-climax. The Duke's hilarious remarks were killer, one of the best being "In an ideal world, you'd already be dead." and "Shake it baby,

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[Lord Ender]

Wow. You're out of touch. The average age of video gamers is somewhere around thirty. Any Wall Street analyst will tell you this. That's why video game stocks have taken off recently. Games aren't just for kids anymore. Adults with big incomes have jumped in to the scene with both feet.

Of course, if you played at all, you would know this without Well Street's studies. Nine out of ten voices you hear on Team Fortress 2 VoIP are clearly those of adults.

Re:12 Years

[orclevegam]

I'm 25 now, I still play video games, and I played the original Duke Nukem 3D, along with other classics such as Doom I & II, zork, and all those old Sierra adventure games. I'm also engaged right now with a wedding date set for November, and I have a rather nice full time job that pays the bills. Saying or implying anyone over the age of 24 that plays video games has something wrong with them is rather narrow minded. Admittedly I don't play as much as I once did, but I do get a few hours a week in on average.

Re:12 Years

[dlZ]

I'm 25 now, I still play video games, and I played the original Duke Nukem 3D, along with other classics such as Doom I & II, zork, and all those old Sierra adventure games. I'm also engaged right now with a wedding date set for November, and I have a rather nice full time job that pays the bills. Saying or implying anyone over the age of 24 that plays video games has something wrong with them is rather narrow minded. Admittedly I don't play as much as I once did, but I do get a few hours a week in on average.

I'm 29 and still game. I have the whole family, house, and job thing going on, but still find some time to game (not as much as 20 years ago, obviously.) My better half has actually started gaming again, too, which she hasn't done since she was a little girl (she still had her original NES, which works amazing.) We tend to mostly play Wii games together, but she has a DS and I have a ton of other systems (360, PS2, DC, whatever else is in the cellar I haven't dug out since our move.) All the gamers I grew up with still game, and my mother is even still a gamer (and obviously much older than either of us.) I don't think age has a thing to do with it.

Re:12 Years

[halivar]

I'm 28 and still game. Well, I mean, I don't have a family or anything. Or a girlfriend. I mean, I got a cool blood-elf paladin named Crimsonja; does that stand for anything?

But, you know.... if I *did* have a family... uhh... I would... umm...

Oh, jeez. I am so alone^H^H^H^H^Hutterly alone. I'm gonna go sulk with Crimsonja.

motion sickness

[sammy baby]

I'm 25 now, I still play video games, and I played the original Duke Nukem 3D, along with other classics such as Doom I & II, zork, and all those old Sierra adventure games.

You know, it's funny - for a while, I played Duke 3d heavily. Before that, of course, I'd played Doom, and Doom 2, and Wolf 3d... Then Quake came out, and QuakeWorld, and all that good stuff, and I played them obsessively. Then I figured, "Hey, why not give Shadow Warrior a try?" (For those who don't remember, Shadow Warrior was a sp

Re:

[Tribbin]

"the original Duke Nukem 3D"

Say what?

This is Duke Nukem 2:

http://www.dosgamesarchive.com/download/dnukem2.gif [dosgamesarchive.com]

Does anybody have a picture of the 'Original(c)'?

Re:

[SimonInOz]

How do you play Duke Nukem 3d? It won't even run on current OSes. Do you have an 12 year old machine as well?

(Actually if there's an easy way I might try it ...)

Re:12 Years

[Toonol]

Don't forget all the thirty year olds that moved on, got married, started families, got divorced, lost their kids, and now sit alone in a dark house playing videogames, trying to recapture the feeling of their youth, before their spirit was crushed.

Re:12 Years

[xtracto]

and now sit alone in a dark house playing videogames, trying to recapture the feeling of their youth, before their spirit was crushed.
Actually, they are playing World of Warcraft

Re:

[nickj6282]

I'm 25, married, have a son, and a baby on the way. When my son and I are not playing Lego Star Wars together, I play plenty of M-rated games. I also regularly bring my DS to work with me for something to do on my downtime. Right now my gamerscore is at a modest 5970 but I'm hoping to surpass 10,000 by the end of the winter. Got any other short-sighted blanket-statements to make?

I regularly go to LAN parties with other grown adults who also have jobs/families/spouses and we have a great time playing Halo 3,

Re:

[provigilman]

Pretty much ditto for me, minus the kid...haven't gotten around to that particular slice of the American Pie yet. I'm probably the second youngest guy on my XBL friends list, almost everyone on there is over 30. There's a LOT of older gamers out there, and there are more and more of them every day.

Re:

[rk]

His reply was aimed at someone who responded to your post, not your post directly. And it was a fair characterization to make.

FWIW, I'm 40, my wife's 38, and I have a son who is 15. And all three of us are working on hatching a plan to break into Blizzard's offices and horking a developer copy of StarCraft II. :-) We're just one big ol' gamer geek family. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Re:

[rk]

Yeah, your question was totally valid and I agree with you. My son is a gamer and I had to explain the "Duke Nukem Forever" joke to him, since the last Duke Nukem game came out when he was three.

Re:

[heinousjay]

What about the 30 year olds who still live in their parent's basement, post anonymously on Slashdot, and rip into other people for the faults they see in themselves?

Re:12 Years

[enderjsv]

Wow, you're kind of a jerk, aren't you? How's that working out for you?

Truthfully, though, I've grown accustom to the ignorant, contemptuous perspectives of the nongaming community towards my preferential hobby. For some reason, it's impossible for most non-gamers to accept the possibility that a mature, responsible individual could get as much enjoyment out of a well-made videogame as others do from books, movies or television.

I don't really understand where this stereotype comes from, since most of the gamers I know are neither children nor immature twenty-somethings smoking pot in their parent's basements at 2 in the afternoon. I, myself, am 26, have a B.S. in computer science and make a pretty good living as a web programmer for a reputable engineering company. As for your remarks about a gamer's probable love-life... GOD you're ignorant. I don't know what else to say about that. I'm sure an AC forum troll like you gets all kinds of pussy. Chicks dig flamebait, so how could anyone else compete? I'm routinely satisfied, though, if you know what I mean.

I guess what it comes down to is your preference. Some people prefer an interactive form of entertainment. Other people prefer to post retarded comments as anonymous cowards for the sad little thrill of drawing attention to themselves. Everyone has their hobbies. If you're lucky, you'll enjoy yours half as much as I enjoy mine.

Re:

[hedwards]

Same here, for whatever reason my reflexes are so much better now than 12 years ago when I was 15.

I'll admit it, I installed dosbox recently just to play the demo for keen4 which I played when it was still more or less new. When I get around to it I'll look into playing the original Dukenukem sidescrollers and possibly the FPS.

If people older than 25 play games less than those under, it probably has more to do with remembering what good games are and actually having played them. That's not to say that there

Re:

[orclevegam]

If people older than 25 play games less than those under, it probably has more to do with remembering what good games are and actually having played them. That's not to say that there are none now, but we are in the middle of a period of over saturation.

At least in my case it has more to do with just not having the free time I used to. Back in my high school days I had plenty of free time, so much so that I had a couple programming projects I worked on, in addition to getting well over 20 hours of video game playing in a week. These days, between spending time with my fiancee, work, and dealing with chores around the house I really just don't have that much time left over. What's more, I have several books I've been meaning to read, and a project I really

Ooh! Can't wait to play it...

[OglinTatas]

on my Infinuim Phantom console!

Hahha, GO 3drealms!

[Eric(b0mb)Dennis]

This will go down as the greatest joke in gaming history.

I can't wait for the actual game to come out, for an amazingly low price! Gamers pop it into their ready computer, suddenly a huge picture of duke comes up with the oh so famous "I've got balls of steel" soundclip, follow by a picture of those at 3drealms.

After this is done, it will immediately be followed by Rick Astley's newest single.

Re:

[framauro13]

No Mod points, so you get a +1 Funny reply.

Makes me think of this XKCD comic not too long ago: Trolling [xkcd.com]

Forver

[whtmarker]

Don't hold your breath, you just might be holding it 'Forever'.

Production hit a snag

[markov_chain]

The game has gone gold, but they are still waiting for their Moller to fly the master over to the factory.

In related news...

[djones101]

A press release from the White House recently stated that Hell hath frozen over. Spokesmen close to the President hail this as a significant advance in the war against terror.

Re:In related news...

[enderjsv]

In other news, an American Airlines commercial airliner crashed just outside of Dallas today after colliding with a flock of flying pigs. Officials are uncertain whether the pigs were members of a terrorist cell organization, or simply the result of Duke Nukem's announced release. We'll keep you posted.

Yeah

[morgan_greywolf]

Yeah, I heard it'll be released right alongside Microsoft Flight Simulator: Porcine Edition.

Re:

[loftwyr]

You know, I think that would be the first and only Flight Sim I'd ever buy.

In ralated news...

[sm62704]

My ex-wife, Evil-X, AKA "Satan", moved to Springfield from Chatham last year, effectively making Springfield "Hell, Illinois".

It's snowing as I type this.

Does George read slashdot, I wonder? Does he still post at Planet Crap? Is Planet Crap still online even? DN4ever has taken so long I'm not only not looking 4ward to it anymore, I haven't played anything but "Road Rash" in ages. Oh wait, I played "guitar hero" with my great nephew last Christmas, that game ROCKS!

As to what took it so long, George and Charlie were waiting until their toddlers were old enough to buy it (NC17, right? Or am I thinking of movies? Damn, speaking of DN4ever I'm getting old.

I was playing Duke Nukem since he was a squeaky little side scroller. I wonder if he still has hair and teeth?

-mcgrew

PS- GET OFF MY LAWN!!

Re:In ralated news...

[sam_paris]

Dude, did you just down 10 double espressos or something?

Re:

[ludomancer]

I did find this clue on his webpage:

http://mcgrew.info/ArtificialInsanity.htm [mcgrew.info]

Re:

[sam_paris]

Nice catch, next question, did he base the bot on his own insanity and is the bot responsible for the comment?

What if it comes out?

[Isauq]

I think itwould be kind of tragic if did come out, actually. We'd need to find a new persistent vaporware joke. :(

Re:What if it comes out?

[austin987]

GNU Hurd

We've still got...

[mutube]

"...this is the year of the Linux Desktop"

/hides

Re:

[MobileTatsu-NJG]

I think itwould be kind of tragic if did come out, actually. We'd need to find a new persistent vaporware joke. :(

Given the life the BSOD jokes still have, I don't think release of the game will affect that meme much.

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[Isauq]

Well, part of the problem with that is that the Phantom was definitively canceled. 3D Realms still insists that DNF will come out. Some day.

Re:

[moderatorrater]

I think WinFS alone has been worse than DNF myself.

Re:

[TheMadcapZ]

Oh it is still coming, they set a 2011 release date. The pre-release codename is "REVODNEB" with a production name of:

"Windows: Wishful"

I ... I ... I...

[0racle]

I don't know what to believe anymore.

Noooooo!

[Slovenian6474]

Why stop now? I mean, is it Directx 10.1? If not, I'm going to be disappointed. The ONLY solution, rewrite it with the newest tech.

Worlds longest running practical joke

[orclevegam]

How can people honestly believe they're "on target" for a release this year when they haven't even nailed down which platforms they're going to be targeting? Now, with cross-platform libraries you can hit a couple of them at a time of course, but even then a certain degree of work needs to be done on the ports, plus all kinds of licensing and such. Sorry, this is the worlds longest running practical joke, and every gamer that believes anything about DNF without actually holding the finished product in their hands is just being suckered in by the joke.

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[UID30]

Sorry, this is the worlds longest running practical joke

You've obviously never been to Cleveland.

Re:

[elrous0]

The only thing they're "on target" for a this point is a huge class-action lawsuit from all the investors dumb enough to sink money in this obvious piece of vaporware over the last ten years.

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[edwardpickman]

It's coming out exclusively on Playstation 4.

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[Millennium]

How is it that the "big three" platforms doesn't include the biggest selling console?

Because the biggest selling console doesn't let them do easy graphics-are-everything cash-ins.

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[Altus]

It has nothing to do with releasing on the Wii. I dont care if they release on the Wii... I dont expect they will ever release anything anyway.

Its about choice of words. If this guy comes out and says "we are considering the PC, the X-box and the PS3 for this release" that would be fine, but to say "THE BIG THREE" when you dont mean the single largest selling console on the market today, well your being disingenuous.

My other 2 comments on this thread have been modded as Trolls, but this clown is the one d

It IS doomed!

[Belial6]

Well, it is doomed. In the not too distant future, Wii sales are going to plummet. My guess is that it will happen some time after Nintendo releases it's next console. I could be wrong though, it could be after MS or Sony release a new console. This will lead Nintendo to drop production on new units, and all of the existing will eventually fail, wiping the Wii from the face of the earth. Granted, it might take a decade or two for all of this to come to completion, but...

The Wii is DOOMED! DOOMED I t

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[TheRaven64]

the wii is for hookers and fat people

No wonder why it's doing so well in the US market. If I'd know that was the target demographic I'd have bought Nintendo stock before the launch.

Re:scott miller and the wii

[Killjoy_NL]

I see someone didn't get a Wii for christmas from old St. Nick :)

hello, anonymous submitter

[EveryNickIsTaken]

Way to completely rip this from Joystiq [joystiq.com]. Could have at least changed a few words.

yeah, right

[jollyreaper]

The day Duke Forever is released, I will be looking up at the sky to see which of the other seals of the apocalypse have broken.

netcraft?

[FunkyELF]

Did netcraft confirm it?

Re:

[Toasty16]

netcraftconfirmsit

There are lies...

[logicassasin]

... damn lies... and DNF release dates.

I'll believe it when I see it. Until then, I will continue to feed my flying pigs.

Point of comparison

[lpangelrob]

Super Mario Galaxy took 5 years to develop. It was originally to be a Gamecube title after about 2 years of development, but obviously the extra 2-3 years spent in development were time well spent, even if it meant missing the Wii launch.

I somehow can't imagine the last 7+ years has been development time well spent.

Re:

[fo0bar]

And of course by 7+, you mean 11 [wikipedia.org].

Re:

[hansamurai]

There are some more interesting comparisons, like how it took less time from Kennedy's big space speech to when we landed men on the moon, or Windows Vista development time.

Even if it is released...

[ZonkerWilliam]

So what?! Hell, I doubt that the graphics or game play could meet the expectations of todays typical shooters!

2008. Yes, but...

[Kozar_The_Malignant]

2008 on which calendar? I'm betting on the Islamic calendar, where the current year is 1429.

SOUND THE GREAT SHOFAR!

[Eli Gottlieb]

The end is nye! Everyone scramble for your bomb shelters and tinfoil hats!

Unless, unless some brave soul can stop the release of this game... all hell will break loose and the world will end.

Won't somebody pick up a big fucking gun and stop the release of Duke Nukem Forever?

Confirm Late in 2008?

[LOTHAR, of the Hill]

Duke Nukem Forever was confirmed as late in 1998!

even their late announcement is late.

let me be the first to say

[circletimessquare]

this story is a dupe ;-)

In Soviet Russia...

[Orleron]

...DNF finishes YOU.

Re:

[Alexpkeaton1010]

I think Soviet Russia was still around when DNF was announced...

In-Game Soundtrack

[metallic]

I hear the in-game soundtrack is going to be Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy.

Yeah but........

[Nonillion]

Can I STILL play it on a DOS box?

Intentional

[Xaositecte]

Sometimes I think they really have canned the Duke Nukem forever project. They just have one guy over there at 3Drealms whose job it is to come up with fake press releases once every six months or so, detailing the progress of Duke Nukem Forever. It might even be a rotation position, sorta've like a community service outreach for down and out liberal arts majors.

Hell, maybe they never even started DNF, and it's just an excuse for some kind of elaborate tax write-off?

Which Big Three

[Bandman]

What he really meant was the PSX, Saturn, and Nintendo's new "hush hush" next gen, Dolphin.

How?

[slapout]

How is 3D Realms staying in business? Do they have any other games bringing in money?

Re:

[KirkH]

They had Max Payne. And uh, Max Payne 2. And some handheld/mobile versions of Duke Nukem. Yeah, not much else.

Re:How?

[nuzak]

They had Prey. Their website would have answered this.

About the Wii...

[Cervantes]

For all those people posting "What about Wii" comments...

Did you ever play Duke Nukem?

Can you imagine some of the gestures they'd include in a Wii version??

Do you really think Nintendo would do anything other than gag and possibly pass out, upon seeing the demo???

Yeah, no way they'd get licensed.

I still demand my promised Nintendo 64 version!

[pecosdave]

Viva la 64 bit revolution!

So... What do you do?

[PHanT0]

"I work at 3D Realms..."
"Really? What's that like?"
"It's pretty sweet... we sit around a dream up cool stuff based on a 10 year piece of software..."
"A what do you do with these ideas?"
"Press releases, screen mock-ups, teaser trailers... that sort of thing."
"That doesn't sound like a whole lot of work..."
"Nope... we pretty much just like the sound of fake deadlines."
"Fake?"
"Yeah... it's nice to have a boss and investors who don't really care about releasing actual product."
"I wish my boss would take a page out of that book..."
"Who do you work for?"
"Microsoft..."
*snicker*

Re:

[jbeaupre]

He noted that wasn't quite what he said. Maybe he said "Duke Nukem 2008 'confirmed' for late forever."

Re:

[Dmala]

I will be utterly shocked if it doesn't totally suck. Valve is the only company I've ever seen who can deliver games outrageously late and still have them turn out good. Even then, their record is only 9 years for TF2. If that even counts, since the released TF2 bears no resemblance to the game they announced in '98.

Re:

[filterban]

Actually that's a good point. Anyone remember Daikatana? If that game doesn't epitomize this problem, I don't know what does.

Re:

[FredFredrickson]

Or they could be causing confusion while developing the biggest game with the longest gameplay in the history of man kind! With so much new content and various endings that this game actually revolutionizes games as we know them...

That's an option... but I agree, it will be hard to meet expecations with this wait. Every day longer makes people's expectations grow..