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Xbox Gains Ground, Outsells PS2 In U.S.? 103

Thanks to Reuters for its story noting that Microsoft's Xbox is "expected to have outsold Sony's PlayStation 2 for the first time on a monthly basis in April" , apparently helped "by a price cut that made the Xbox cheaper than the PS2" - though a PlayStation 2 price cut to $149 is seemingly rumored for announcement at E3. The rise of the Xbox-exclusive title is also noted: "Titles like 'Ninja Gaiden' and 'Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow' rode rave reviews to big sales, both finishing among the top five titles in sales for March, according to the NPD Group." Elsewhere in the same article, Dan Hsu of EGM comments on Xbox 2's possible showing at E3, commenting: "I think it'd be very strange for them to announce anything like that, because it would only hurt this holiday season for them... Even if this thing is not coming out for a year or two years, that still gives the impression that [the Xbox] is outdated technology."
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Xbox Gains Ground, Outsells PS2 In U.S.?

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  • by MBraynard ( 653724 ) on Sunday May 09, 2004 @09:19PM (#9103003) Journal
    Yeah, I never thought that would happen. That use to be the reason that PS2 would own everything. I was just trying to think of upcoming PS2 games that were exclusive and going to be dominent but yeah, they are all sushirpg.

    Plus, with Madden going online with XBL, the reasons for going PS2 are fewer than ever.

  • by Cap-America ( 689943 ) on Sunday May 09, 2004 @10:41PM (#9103371) Homepage
    wait a sec

    Fable - PC
    Doom 3 - PC
    KOTOR II - PC
    Advent Rising - PC
    Full Spectrum Warrior - PC
    Starcraft Ghost - PS2 and GameCube
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow - PS2 and GameCube (this week or next if I'm not mistaken)
    Halo 2 & Jade Empire - Would not be surprised to see PC versions

    The only reasons the Xbox out sold the PS2 is
    1. $50 cheaper
    2. Everyone like owns 2 or 3 PS2 by now.

    Heres a question, by how many consoles did the Xbox out sell the PS2 by? 100,000? 10,000? 1,000? 100? 10? 1?

    What pretty much happen was MS drooped the price and people said what the hell, nothing good came out this month, might as well pick up this console for the hell of it. Its not because it has good "exclusive" titles, I'm sorry but it has one of the worst selections of "exclusive" games. 90% of the time you can go out and by their "exclusive" titles for the PC for like $10-$20 less with all the same features.

    The PS2 will always have the largest selection of REAL "exclusive" titles. All the Xbox is getting are more PC ports and calling them "exclusive" titles and on top of that their not that great too. Take Rare's latest game.

    Really how many boring RPGs and stupid FPS can you stand? Come on! Lets see I have a choice of Doom3, Half Life 2, Halo 2, UT2005, Quake 4 and what ever other FPS come out. And I rather play a FPS on the PC where I can uses a mouse and keyboard and also make Maps and Mods for the game. I like nothing more then being able to run around UT2k4 as Bender.

    And come on KotoR was not that great, it maybe one of the best Star Wars games I've played in a long time, but it was one of the worst RPGs I've played. KotoR would have made a good MMORPG. The game was so boring and dry and the ending could have been written by a 10 year old. I uses to joke around about how that could be the ending and it turn out to really be it.

    And all Ninja Gaiden was, was Shinobi with more blood, it was also another very lage disapointment. I'm glad I only rented it and didn't waste my money buying it.

    It's one stupid month people, next month the PS2 will be back on top.

    Don't forget people a couple months back the GameCube out sold the PS2 too.
  • by incubusnb ( 621572 ) on Sunday May 09, 2004 @10:57PM (#9103442) Homepage Journal
    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Gran Turismo 4, Altered Beast, Driv3r, Street Racing Syndicate, NARC, Devil May Cry 3, Kindom Hearts 2, Final Fantasy XII, and on and on...

    yes, i know some of those aren't exclusive, but you did the same thing (Starcraft: Ghost and Full Spectrum Warrior both have PS2 release dates)

    that being said, the "sushi-RPGs and repetitive kung-fu fighting games" are catering to an Audience that you probably don't subscribe to, then again, i could care less about Doom 3, FSW, and Advent Rising because i don't subscribe to their intended audience (but the rest that you mentioned are on my must-buy list... yes, that means i own an X-Box)

    i also want to note, that anyone that didn't see a sale slump for the PS2 coming from 6 months ago needs a reality check, do P2-450MHZ computers sell as well now as they did when they first came out? i think not, old technology will be replaced, thats a proven fact

  • Re:Wait a minute... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 09, 2004 @11:29PM (#9103599)
    Actually, Sony can be even nastier than Microsoft when it comes to licensing games for their platform. They can stonewall you indefinitely by nitpicking the TRC (Technical Requirement Certification) if they decide they just don't want your game to come out--and that decision can be entirely political, not based upon the quality of your game. They also insist that the PS/2 title have more features than competing consoles, even though the PS/2 is long in the tooth, and had major design flaws right from the outset. For anti-competitive behaviour, M$ has nothing on Sony.
  • Pointless Discussion (Score:2, Interesting)

    by MarkPNeyer ( 729607 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @12:15AM (#9103848)
    If you look at the top selling video games, you're certaintly not going to see japenese imports that are exclusive to the PS2 - you'll see regular, every day games, most of which are on all three systems. The PS2 Is not the best selling console because it's got the best line-up of exclusive titles - it's the best selling most likely because it came out first. Consider this list of the top 10 best selling console games of 2003: 1 PS2 - Madden NFL 2004 (Electronics Arts) 2 GBA - Pokemon Ruby (Nintendo) 3 GBA - Pokemon Sapphire (Nintendo) 4 PS2 - Need for Speed Underground (Electronics Arts) 5 NGC - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (Nintendo) 6 PS2 - Grand Theft Auto: Vice City (Rockstar) 7 NGC - Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Nintendo) 8 PS2 - Tony Hawk's Underground (Activision) 9 PS2 - Enter the Matrix (Atari) 10 PS2 - Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (Electronics Arts) Now, I ask you - how many are PS2 exclusives? None! The game cube, on the other hand, has two exclusive titles on the list. Based on this information, one would be hard pressed to argue that the PS2 sold the best because it has the most exclusive titles. Why has the PS2 done so well ? My conclusion is that it's almost entirely the result of the fact that it came out first. I based this on my observation of people's video-game buying habits. My brothers were conviced by some dude at gamestop to get an Xbox instead of a PS2, so they did. I saw how much fun halo was, and I told me friend about it - so he bought an xbox. My other friend, who one an xbox in the taco bell promotion but never used it, then bought a copy of halo so that we could have LAN parties. Other friends would show up at LAN parties, see how much fun their were, and buy xboxes of their own. I'm sure similar things happened with PS2 (obviously not the LAN party bit, since it didn't have a network adapter untill long after the xbox was out) You may personally beleive that the PS2 offers the best library of exclusive titles, which is a perfectly valid opinion. But you'd be wrong to conclude that the library of exclusive titles explains the PS2 out selling the xbox - the facts just don't support that conclusion.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @12:24AM (#9103892)
    Had my XBOX for over two years, no crashes,no kernel errors, no patches, works like a dream everytime.
    And the XBOX IS superior to PS2 in every single way I can think of.
    Plus its the most worthwhile, value for money, fun, money you can spend for any game console. Period!
    Why don't you get a life dude?
    And I don't mean lurking around salshdot spewing out vitriol and hate either.
    That is not called a life. Its called stupidity!
  • Re:Wait a minute... (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @02:03AM (#9104200)
    Indeed. A few weeks ago there was an interview over the bringing over of more SNK games onto the console (I believe it was on Gamespot but I don't remember exactly nor do I have the link, someone check it out?) and one of the representatives pointed out that they COULDN'T bring Metal Slug 3 to the PS2 because Sony refused to allow it. (Even though Metal Slug 3 is considered to be the last high point of 2 side-shooting scrollers to date.)
  • by drjenk ( 696304 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @05:17AM (#9104771)
    Gran Tarismo is old news, nobody that owns an xbox cares. Spend an hour playing PGR2, TOCA 2, or Rallisport Challenge 2 on xbox live, then tell me all about Gran Turismo, I dare you.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 10, 2004 @07:39AM (#9105213)
    British media aplogist: "Just because something doesn't toe the party line doesn't necessarily mean it's anti-American. Honest reporting doesn't ignore difficult concepts"

    Honest reporting? Is that what you are calling it now? Don't make me luagh!
    You mean honest reporting like the rabidly anti-American BBC making things up during the Iraq war to such an extent that even your own Independent Commision in Britain found the BBC guilty not only of lying regularly through their teeth, but of BBC executives doing everything in their power to cover up these lies as well.
    If you call that "honest" reporting, you are smoking something pretty strong!
    Having lived lived in Britain for some time myself, I know for a fact that the Daily Mirror regularly lies to stir up anti-American hatred. sSame thing with the "Indepenent" and the "Guardian".
    I should know. I used to read those pathetic British rags regularly and watch the BBC news for over 10 years.
    There is nothing "honest" about the coverage of American news by the "Economist", and this has been the case long before President Bush was even on the horizon, having read the "Economist" since I was a boy, for over 20 years.
  • by TalMaximus ( 681873 ) on Monday May 10, 2004 @03:53PM (#9109894) Journal
    ...have had the biggest impact on me moving to an Xbox over the PS2. The PS2 came without a hard drive or ethernet connection built in. The Xbox doesn't have that handicap. No shame towards Sony there except that it took them far too long to market a network adapter...and then finally a hard drive (which, BTW, you can't get without buying Final Fantasy XI). The most frustrating aspect of the PS2 has been Sony's...suprisingly...their slow movement. A lot of my friends love playing multiplayer/LAN party style games. The king of that particular genre for us right now is Halo. Nothing on the PS2 compares...and you don't have to buy ethernet adapters (or multitaps for that matter) along with an Xbox. The PS2 still rules the RPG market...though KOTOR took a bite out of that... but I like actually seeing people every once in a while so the Xbox has definitely taken priority because of a more multiplayer friendly system. Sony keeps dragging their feet in innovation to the existing PS2. Sure, they were faster than anyone else getting it out there, but after that they took their time with everything else.

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