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Penny Arcade Holiday Strip Series #2 53

We're happy to bring you more work from Gabe and Tycho, the co-authors of Penny Arcade and organizers of the Child's Play charity. This week the Holiday strip series continues with Page 2 of the story.
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Penny Arcade Holiday Strip Series #2

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  • Whoah (Score:3, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @03:36PM (#11139407)
    That looks like my ex-girlfriend...
    • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @03:43PM (#11139494)
      That actually happened to me once. I was ice skating, and all of a sudden Cthulhu popped up.

      The date didn't end well.
    • Re:Whoah (Score:3, Interesting)

      by Destoo ( 530123 ) <destoo@gmailCOLA.com minus caffeine> on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @12:43PM (#11148400) Homepage Journal
      Funny because it's what it's meant to be.

      Cthulhu is HP Lovecraft's representation of the female organs.

      He always was a party animal.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @01:47PM (#11149413)
        You skipped the middle step in your little Freudian postulate, which is that Lovecraft had a deep loathing of seafood. From there, some people like to take a hop, skip and a jump to the pussy; usually people who have never been near one themselves. Which, from a cursory glance at your homepage, almost certainly includes yourself, Party Animal.

        • by Destoo ( 530123 ) <destoo@gmailCOLA.com minus caffeine> on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @02:44PM (#11150150) Homepage Journal
          you're right.. silly homepage. I should make something out of it.

          And the theory is not mine.
          It was related to us by a litterature teacher in a sci-fi/horro around 1990. He probably mentionned seafood but I have no recollection of it. But I do remember that HP, in a letter, did mention something to that effect. Along the lines of : when you have read everything that has ever been written about sex at age 10 and about love at age 12, these things don't make any sense anymore.

          Then again, I might be wrong.. My college years are pretty fuzzy, and taking physics at univ was a good move, but I lost a lot of my litterature lore in the process.
          • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @05:03PM (#11152058)
            I was just being an asshole. Sorry about that.

            Anyway, I've heard that theory, but don't find that much vaginal imagery in Lovecraft's work. Except maybe for the gugs and their gaping vertical mouths...

            Now racist imagery, you can make a hell of a case for; I love Lovecraft's writing but he was a very racist fellow.

            But the worst case I think you could make for Lovecraft's view on women was that it was outmoded and anachronistic. He was married, after all (his wife described him as an "adequately excellent lover," although it may be she was just being charitable), and lived with his mother and them some aunts -- which, from reading his biographies, seemed agreeable enough. The worst you can probably say is that about the only female character he ever had in his stories was Asenath Waite, and she was a villainness. So women don't so much seem an object of horror as to, well, not exist.

            I've personally never bought into the loathing of fish == loathing of vaginas, personally, and I think it's a hell of a leap to make, but I've seen that theory around.
    • by UrgleHoth ( 50415 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @07:36PM (#11153924) Homepage
      Is that with or without the beer goggle?
  • Man, oh man! (Score:-1, Offtopic)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @03:37PM (#11139412)
    DO I LOVE A throbbing hard COCK! In my mouth! Penises are flying in and out of my mouth!!!!! It's like a goddamn airport for dick! Cock!
  • Well gee (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by Holi ( 250190 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @03:51PM (#11139582)
    Since you posted the comic to slashdot why would I bother to go to penny-arcade.
  • by spencerogden ( 49254 ) <spencer@spencerogden.com> on Monday December 20, 2004 @03:53PM (#11139606) Homepage
    Reminds me of the last South Park, Dr. Seuss rhyming, evil creatures,etc. It always amuses me how Cthulu and the rest are so well known in open source circles, but just get blanks looks from most computer geeks, let alone normal people!
  • by RalphBNumbers ( 655475 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @04:02PM (#11139688)
    It makes headlines on /. every time you upload a new comic.
  • The Newspost (Score:5, Interesting)

    by feidaykin ( 158035 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @04:12PM (#11139808) Journal
    Tycho comments on the whole death of suprnova thing, and one of things he says is:

    There are conversations to be had about the morality of file sharing, but until those stern words are able to project a "morality field" that causes those in their radius to behave honorably such dialogues fall into the "adorable but irrelevant" category.

    Wow. I think he just summed up an entire form of slashdot subculture... in a single sentence. That's awesome!

    • by e2mtt ( 629911 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @06:10PM (#11141109) Homepage
      Tycho has a way of doing that... in one single intricately crafted sentence he will boil down the absolute essence of idea, game review, or personal opinion.

      However, quite often the sentence will require multiple readings to grasp the full meaning. He is an amazing writer.
      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:01PM (#11143600)
        Thanks mom!

        -Tycho

        (...not really)
      • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @11:34PM (#11143843)
        I think he has a way of writing that _seems_ lofty and will have others agreeing with him in order to seem lofty by proxy.

        Let's analyze what he says. Boiling down his "intricately crafted sentence" even further we arrive at something like "Talking about file sharing is irrelevant until you can project morality fields which imbue honor among the participants."

        What does it mean to "behave honorably?" Behave honorably as file sharers? Behave honorably as participants in the discussion? Behave honorably as internet citizens? Behave honorably in your projecting of the morality field?

        Let's say you behaved honorably in any of those senses. Would it make the conversation about file sharing any more relevant? Any less adorable?

        Saying something is "adorable but irrelevant" is just being snarky. Anyone who didn't understand the words coming before it will instantly latch on to the sentence as a whole thinking they've just witnessed something "intricately crafted." It's low-attention span code for "I just said something witty."

        Anyone else feel this way? Maybe it's just me.
        • by SetupWeasel ( 54062 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @01:48AM (#11144670) Homepage
          Yes, I agree. That sentence is horrible. There are many big words and not much content.

          Tycho's sentence:
          There are conversations to be had about the morality of file sharing, but until those stern words are able to project a "morality field" that causes those in their radius to behave honorably such dialogues fall into the "adorable but irrelevant" category.

          This reads to me as follows: "Untill people listen to them, discussions about the morality of file sharing are pointless."

          He tries to say more, but there are phrases like "behave honorably" that don't connect to anything, as you said.
          • by jackbird ( 721605 ) on Friday December 24, 2004 @04:14PM (#11177973)
            Yes, I agree. That sentence is horrible. There are many big words and not much content.

            Which 'big words' were tripping you up? With the cutoff at 6 letters you get:

            conversations
            morality
            sharing
            project
            honorab ly
            dialogues
            adorable
            irrelevant
            category

            are those really that hard?

      • by SetupWeasel ( 54062 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @01:17AM (#11144520) Homepage
        However, quite often the sentence will require multiple readings to grasp the full meaning. He is an amazing writer.

        Not to blast Tycho, but good writing is easy to understand. An "amazing writer" does not hand you a scrambled Rubik's Cube and ask you to solve it.
        • Re:The Newspost (Score:3, Interesting)

          by LastToKnow ( 449735 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @03:17AM (#11145017) Homepage
          I disagree. I rather like Tycho's writing style; it reminds me of Douglas Adams and others who take the time to play with the language and create sentences that not only get the point across, but are a joy to parse.
        • by Swanktastic ( 109747 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @09:21AM (#11146152)
          An "amazing writer" does not hand you a scrambled Rubik's Cube and ask you to solve it.

          Well put. I couldn't agree more. I love Penny Arcade, but Tycho's writing is self-indulgent and oblique. Sometimes I think he checks every adjective for a possible thesaurus substitute.

          It reminds me of the witty banter that characters zip back and forth in shows like Dawson's Creek and Gilmore Girls-- SAT words get blasted around at 6 per minute, and they barely pause to think before rattling off a seemingly brilliant observation that is really quite ordinary.
          • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @11:43AM (#11147507)
            I'm really interested in who you consider an "amazing writer". Most highly hailed authors have many levels to their work... that's why people praise it so.

            Now I'm not trying to compare Tycho to Shakespeare, but try reading Hamlet and understanding every aspect of it in one go.

            In my opinion, there are two kinds of great writers: Ones whom can tell a tale that you can't stop reading. This type can get away with simple write writing (that you understand immediately) because their plots and whatnot are so good. The others are ones who are simply language artists. Tycho is the sort who, as mentioned before, plays the English language like his own instument. Granted he's not always on fire, but he usually impresses me.

            As for Tycho's choice of words, as he's mentioned he doesn't bother with reading thesauri... He just eats them for breakfast [penny-arcade.com].
            • by SetupWeasel ( 54062 ) on Tuesday December 21, 2004 @01:01PM (#11148673) Homepage
              Regardless of how many "levels" a story has, you should be able to understand each individual sentence. Depth is not brought about by confusion.

              I've read Tolstoy (an "amazing writer"), Douglas Adams (ditto), as well as college physics textbooks (NOT amazing for the most part). The great writers convey their thoughts nearly effortlessly. Physics textbooks, more often than not, force you to read sentences and paragraphs over and over to gain any meaning at all.

              Tycho isn't the worst I've seen, but the particular sentence quoted is a horrible, twisted mess.
  • Mirror (Score:1, Offtopic)

    by Andy_R ( 114137 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @04:14PM (#11139822) Homepage Journal
    Here's a Mirror [heatheringtons.com.au]
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @04:17PM (#11139851)
    Typical Americans - it should be "nicely" not "nice".

    /Grammar Nazi.

  • Y'know, I realize that these articles are here to try and help keep PA from being slashdotted by the charity links and all that, but these slashdot articles are reminding me that I'm a month behind in the PA comics, and that I ought to go browsing right now....

    Wonder if the /. mirroring is actually helping their server overload....

  • by fondue ( 244902 ) on Monday December 20, 2004 @07:17PM (#11141756)
    Um, what does this have to do with games again?
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 20, 2004 @09:07PM (#11142683)
    How gripping! Such a page-turner! Oh wait, we only get a page at a time.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday December 22, 2004 @10:43AM (#11158149)
    makes baby Jesus' eyes bleed.

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