Halo in September, New Xbox in 2012? 49
EGM sat down for a long talk with Microsoft's Shane Kim, Corporate Vice President. Among other things they discuss the unbuyability of the Bioware company (they asked and were rebuffed), plans for the next next-gen game console (already in the works, possibly coming in 2012), and the timing for the release of Halo 3. "We returned to discussing Microsoft's first party portfolio for 2007. With Grand Theft Auto IV due in mid-October, Microsoft has to figure out when Halo 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4 fit into the release calendar. Kim confirmed that PGR4 was due this fall, though did not specify a date. Why not? Well, because Microsoft won't ship a game in October to compete with GTA IV, and with Lost Odyssey coming in December, that means Halo 3 and Project Gotham Racing 4 have to fight over September and November. With the success Halo 2 enjoyed at retail, would Microsoft even entertain shipping the game outside of the oft-expected November timeframe?"
360 longevity (Score:4, Insightful)
Obviously that's a long way in the future so I take that with huge chunks of salt, but I would definitely appreciate a slowing down of next gen arms race propagation.
Why not release both? (Score:4, Insightful)
Besides, if I remember rightly, Halo 2's release date was shared with a Rainbow 6, a Splinter Cell and a Call Of Duty all within a week or two of each other, and that didn't seem to come out too badly.
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http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEFkZEZVF
If they have a long lifespan for the console, that loss might eventually become a profit. If they develop a replacement console sooner, that not only adds a schwack of R&D costs but it reduces the amount of profit they could get from this generation.
The exact same thing goes for sony; the ps3 is a loss leader, but they are probably making money from the ps2 due to its popularity and long life.
Re:360 longevity (Score:4, Insightful)
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I remember hearing EA and Rockstar say they had already mastered the then current gen tech of PS2/Xbox. Really guys? Great then you can just churn out top-notch games! The NES had a life-span of 12 years for chrissake. If you're going to make the same damn games anyway, just stay on the console you've mastered. I could have played 5 GTA San Andreases to be honest. I could have played 5 God of Wars (though I'm not interested in paying an expensive upgrade cost to play those same old experiences in shiny "new" games). Those were games made by companies at the top of their game. Now we're stuck waiting for these assholes to figure out their new toys all over again, all the while bitching about how much it costs them to make all the friggin' content for their new games.
And when they do get their tools in order will we be getting games with new gameplay? Hell no. We'll get Halo 3, a prettier Halo 2 (the sequel jumping across console gens is particularly indicative of a stagnation in true innovation). We'll get Gears of War, something I honestly could have mistaken for an unreal3 engine tech demo. The monsters will still run around acting dumber than ants (I mean that literally, I would love to see the emergent intelligence such as that of an ant hive in a game). The players will still have the same rigid disconnect with these pretty virtual worlds that could only come from the same boring analog control system. I still haven't found a reason to buy a new system, though I'm still leaning towards the graphically weaker but considerably innovative Wii (if I could ever track one down!). I've played Halo before. Twice. I imagine the third will play much like the first two. I'd like to play it, but I'm not spending $600 for the pleasure of that retread. Console gaming is supposed to be cheaper than PC gaming. It is beginning to outpace the cost of upgrading my PC. Wtf? Microsoft or any other company that really wanted to wouldn't have to release a new console in 10 years if it decided to reach for players hearts and minds (through games not market-speak) instead of just their eyeballs (and wallets). The damn fools at MS screwed up this whole generation in the first place with the premature ejaculate that is the 360. They may be in the lead right now, but you tell me, is this iteration of the console wars nearly as exciting as any of the previous? The Genesis (hell even the SegaCD), the SNES, the N64, the Dreamcast/PS2. Those were exciting times. Sony, MS have really scewed things up with this hardware smorgasbord. Show me the games.
Re:360 longevity (Score:2, Insightful)
There was actually a good article on Anandtech at one point about how these next-gen processors are not good for gaming compared to your typical desktop dual-core CPU. I mean, you could go on how Cell's SPE's have no branch prediction, which hampers their logical processing (i.e. not as great for features such as AI). PowerPC processors are also in-order execution, which is somewhat wasteful in some situations.
Here's a wikipedia article on in-order and out-of-order execution: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-order_executi