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Emulation Explosion On the PS3 Via Linux 425

Posted by timothy
from the like-your-very-own-time-machine dept.
Marty writes "The PlayStation 3 has recently seen an explosion of releases of emulators and games for the Yellow Dog Linux distro for PS3; once you have installed Yellow Dog Linux you then have the ability to try out MAME, SNES, Amiga, Dos, Commodore and Atari emulators (that's the tip of the iceberg) and such games as Quake 2, Duke Nukem 3D, Hexen 2 and Alephone. Time to start installing Linux on your PS3?"
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Emulation Explosion On the PS3 Via Linux

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  • Oblig. (Score:5, Funny)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday March 09, 2009 @02:42AM (#27118373)
    Yo, Dawg! I herd you like playin' consoles so I put a console in yo console so you can play while you play!

    I now feel somewhat happier.
  • No (Score:4, Informative)

    by Tatsh (893946) on Monday March 09, 2009 @02:44AM (#27118383)

    1. First of all, there are more options for PS3 then YD including Gentoo, Ubuntu, Fedora, and others.

    2. Access (due to Sony scared of people making good games for PS3 Linux for 'free') to the RSX (graphics card) is very restricted. A few firmware revisions ago it was accessible but of course that gets fixed. And without the latest firmware, you cannot play certain games.

    The PS3 is a flop anyway. If you want to emulate these mentioned systems, you are way better off with a PC, Xbox 1, or Wii.

    • Re:No (Score:4, Informative)

      by Gerzel (240421) * <brollyferret@@@gmail...com> on Monday March 09, 2009 @02:53AM (#27118411) Journal

      Flop? I don't think that word means what you think it means.

      PS3 has made money. It might not have caught on like the creators hoped it would or like the PS2, but it is slowly getting its market share.

      It isn't a huge success story but I'd hardly call it a flop.

      • Re:No (Score:5, Interesting)

        by Cheapy (809643) on Monday March 09, 2009 @04:43AM (#27118811)

        I don't know. When the company claims that a product is still for "early adapters" two years after it's release...that's almost flop-worthy.

      • Re:No (Score:5, Informative)

        by Elementalor (551544) <baraja@[ ]il.com ['gma' in gap]> on Monday March 09, 2009 @04:55AM (#27118859) Homepage

        No, PS3 has not made any money and it may never make any.

        http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/index.html [sony.net]
        Sony videogames division in the past three years (PS3 era+R&D, including PS2 and PSP):

        2006 ===== 75 (positive)
        2007 = -1,969 (negative)
        2008 = -1,265 (negative)
        2009 ===== 51 (positive)

        Total 2006-09 === -3,108

        (in million US$)
        http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=111003 [neogaf.com]

        • Re:No (Score:5, Interesting)

          by CarpetShark (865376) on Monday March 09, 2009 @07:10AM (#27119447)

          No, PS3 has not made any money and it may never make any.

          I haven't been keeping track of consoles much, but I can imagine that being true, from how many kids I've (dismayingly) heard talking about their XBoxes. Also, many kids and adults (a niche market which Playstations have traditionally been strong in) have gone with Wii.

          I've definitely do idea on the veracity of those figures. BUT, even if they've lost a ton of money on PS3, there is perhaps still light at the end of the tunnel for Sony. They based it on Cell, which is designed to scale easily. If that really happened in practice, and if the PS3 didn't bypass all that and just use the raw power without the scaleability, then it should be a relatively simple process to make a PS4, based on their existing, mass-producible tech, but with a few more Cell chips on the bus.

          • adults (a niche market which Playstations have traditionally been strong in)

            Are you high? Can I have some?

            Since when has adult gaming been a "niche market" or one that "Playstations have traditionally been strong in"? I am an adult, most of my gaming is done on PC. I know a lot of adult gamers, most of their gaming is done on PC. The ones that don't, own an Xbox (1 or 360 depending on what year you want to go back to)... before the Xbox, it was all PC.

            So, again, are you high?

          • Actually, they are already working on the PS4. There was an article on /. a couple weeks ago regarding Sony getting together with nvidia or ati (can't remember which) about designing it.
      • are you sure it has? I see a June article saying they were down 3 billion dollars [yahoo.com] and an October article saying that the games division was still losing money [gamepro.com]. I'm sure Christmas helped, but that's a big deficit to overcome
      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by Sj0 (472011)

        All this fanboy talk can cease. [wikia.com]

        Sony's gaming division lost $1.24 billion in 2008. This means that anyone who lost less than 1.24 billion dollars in 2008 is more profitable than Sony's gaming division. Sony did NOT make money on the PS3 in 2008.

        That said, your other statement is more accurate. Third party developers have finally stepped up and begun releasing games people might actually want to play, and Sony finally lowered the price of the console, leading to an increase in sales of 156%. Their share of th

    • Re:No (Score:5, Interesting)

      by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo (1000167) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:12AM (#27118477)
      I'll drink to that. I got the NES and SNES emulators working on the Wii, and in all honesty I haven't played many modern games since. Getting back into the Megaman and Final Fantasy series is a pretty neat experience, especially on a new HDTV with a wireless controller. All my childhood dreams of having remote access to all of my games without having to blow in the cartridge have finally come true. Now kindly get off my lawn!
      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by ShadowFalls (991965)
        You think that is great? Get a big screen TV and play Super Mario Bros. 3 on big world.
        • Oh God, the pixels, the pixels are coming to get me!!!!
          • by tepples (727027) <tepples@g[ ]l.com ['mai' in gap]> on Monday March 09, 2009 @09:53AM (#27120567) Homepage Journal

            You think that is great? Get a big screen TV and play Super Mario Bros. 3 on big world.

            Oh God, the pixels, the pixels are coming to get me!!!!

            It depends on which emulator you're using. If you're using the official Virtual Console emulator, it'll look blocky because vcNES uses nearest-neighbor resampling. But if you're using an emulator that supports Scale2x [sourceforge.net], hq2x [hiend3d.com], or some other smart resampling method for line art, you can get NES games to look better than TG16 in some cases and Super NES games to look nearly PS1-quality.

    • by Fred_A (10934)

      The PS3 is a flop anyway.

      I thought it was a MegaFLOP which led to it being occasionally used in scientific simulations.

      But then I don't really follow the console gaming scene. Of course running Sinclair or C64 games on a PS3 has a little something to it...

    • Please point out the firmware versions that allowed RSX access, and how. I've been searching regularly for years and have never found such a claim, much less proof.
      • Not such that there was a firmware that allowed RSX, but an older firmware had a flaw which allowed you to break into RSX access.

  • by Vu1turEMaN (1270774) on Monday March 09, 2009 @02:57AM (#27118433)

    I cry everytime people don't remember the hardworking folks over at the Freespace SCP when it comes to Linux gaming....
    http://scp.indiegames.us/ [indiegames.us]
    and
    http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php [hard-light.net]
    for more info.

    Over a million posts in their forum debugging an amazing game.

    • by Yfrwlf (998822)
      Yay. Gotta love those forums where you have to dig around for centuries just to try to figure out what in the hell is going on, and where to download the damn game from.

      From the main page: "The Source Code Project was started roughly five years ago, when Volition released the source code to the game known as 'Freespace 2'. This virtually unknown game consistently won awards for being a great action space sim, but never really caught on when it was released. The Source Code Project has worked, and conti
      • by argiedot (1035754)
        You are right about this, it is incredibly hard to find the download links. It was torturous trying to get them. But the game does function, it plays just like the original but cross-platform and with better graphics.
    • Huh?
      I have searched many times for open source games and linux games, and this Freespace doesn't seem to appear in the lists:

      http://rangit.com/software/top-8-linux-games-of-2007/ [rangit.com]
      http://www.linuxgames.com/ [linuxgames.com]

      And many more sites like that...

      Some people don't remember, but even more people might never have heard of it.

  • Linux on PS3? (Score:4, Insightful)

    by DemonBeaver (1485573) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:14AM (#27118491)
    I really can't see a good reason to install Linux on a PS3 except for once again proving that Linux goes on everything with a microchip. I'd rather buy a cheap pc for Linux, and have a working keyboard...
    • by skreeech (221390)

      a usb keyboard works fine on it. I think you need one for most installations. I am not disputing that a cheap PC is a much better alternative.

      • Any idea if you can use a bluetooth keyboard for installing? I don't have a usb keyboard (unbelievable, I know), but I do have a bluetooth on. Well, actually, it's an N810 with blue-maemo, but it does the same thing ;)
  • by skreeech (221390) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:23AM (#27118525)

    Most of those programs worked on the PS3 day one. I am not aware of what makes this a new development.

  • What explosion? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by seebs (15766) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:51AM (#27118655) Homepage

    Please name an emulator which works on the PS3 today and didn't in 2007.

    "Explosion" implies that there are many such emulators, and that they all showed up recently. In fact, I don't know of any at all, and it's hardly an "explosion" for a Linux system to have access to a bunch of common Linux packages. What next? "Emulator explosion on the Eee" headlines because my specific Eee has access to more emulators than it did when I bought it?

  • The madness (Score:3, Funny)

    by hee gozer (1261036) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:53AM (#27118667)
    All those fancy cell cores with their gigahertzes and gigaflops, the hdd with its gigabytes and then bluray, just to play a game of Hunt the Wumpus [die.net]! Hunt in shiny HD ascii!
  • by zaffir (546764) on Monday March 09, 2009 @03:56AM (#27118683)

    The reason to put Linux on a PS3 is the same as it has been since release day: access to the wonderfully (sinfully?) complex Cell.

    If the thought of 6 128-bit wide vector processors hanging off the back of a general purpose CPU gets you all hot and bothered, the Linux on the PS3 is a great place to start.

  • by themildassassin (1094497) on Monday March 09, 2009 @07:59AM (#27119675)

    It strikes me that people who try to hype up the PS3's emulation under linux have never tried it.

    I have, ignoring the large amount of tweaking to get a distro working properly with the PS3 hardware/HDTV (I've tried yellow dog and ubuntu), the emulation just isn't very good.

    At least with an NES emulator you'll be able to run a game at full speed. However, good luck getting it fit to the screen properly or get it working with PS3 gamepad (again more tweaking). Other systems, SNES, GENESIS, don't have an emulator that is going to run at full speed on the PS3.

    Other software suffers from the same problems, lack of selection and slow performance. Maybe this will change in the future, but right now linux on the cell isn't that great for desktop style apps. Yet I see it hyped up all the time, but people who either haven't bothered to try it, or are fine with a lot of tweaking for a extremely sluggish emulation/desktop experience. Just because you can do it, doesn't always mean that it is worth doing.

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